Subj : Re: Weakling
To   : Bryan Handfield
From : Angela Walker
Date : Fri Nov 13 2020 04:26 am

 Re: Re: Weakling
 By: Bryan Handfield to Angela Walker on Sat Oct 31 2020 10:55 pm

> -=[ On 10-31-20 19:12, Angela Walker wrote to Dennis Katsonis below: ]=-
> -=[ Re: Re: Weakling ]=-
>
> Hi Angela Walker!
>
>  AW> in the middle of a pandemic, not to mention women's rights. Roe vs.
>  AW> Wade? Gone, just a matter of time. Regardless of how you feel about
>  AW> abortion, I submit that taking away the right of every woman to make
>  AW> that decision for herself after decades of the status quo represents a
> What about the rights of the unborn as a human being?
>
> Cheers,
>      Bryan
>      bhandfield(at)me(dot)com
>
> ... Bart, stop pestering Satan!!!
I do not personally believe the rights of the unborn baby should ever usurp the
right of the grown human being to make that choice for herself.  I understand
that dives into a much deeper philosophical realm wherein you and I have
different beliefs as well - for instance I believe in reinacrnation so by my
belief system the baby's soul would simply exit the body and ultimately be
reborn somewhere else.  But that's a can of worms I don't mean to open - let's
just agree to disagree on all of that and limit the scope of the dispute to the
applicable law.  Here's what clinches it for me: There are lots of people who
feel one way and think abortion should be absolutely illegal, often even in
cases of rape, incest, even when the mother's life is put in immediate danger
and the only way to save her is to abort the fetus.  Then you have a lot of
people who feel, like I do, that each individual should be given the freedom to
weigh the decision for themselves and consider their own circumstances.  One
side of that argument wants to force their beliefs onto everyone else, whereas
the other side wants to allow for freedom of choice.  That makes it clear to me
which side the law should take.  We're talking about what's legal here, not
what's moral.  Abortion may be immoral but so is infidelity and it's not
illegal.  Saying hateful things to someone to make them feel bad is immoral but
not illegal - unless you threaten violence, etc.  This is one of those
situations, again IMO, where the law should allow more freedom than does
morality.  Folks who believe abortion is wrong in any context have every right
to teach their children this lesson, live by their own moral code, etc. but the
law should allow for multiple points of view to exist and be legal.

Hey, I know that you and I are never going to agree on this and if it makes you
feel any better I'm not advocating abortion.  I believe it should be reserved
as a last-resort option for extreme situations myself but I really don't like
government legislating away an individual freedom - any freedom.  For instance
I don't approve of or advocate recreational drug use, but I do believe we
should stop prosecuting all non-violent drug crimes and eliminate the
whole idea of a "possession charge" entirely.  We should redirect all that
funding from the war on drugs to education aimed at abuse prevention and
efforts to help people who have a problem.  We should also examine people's
motivation for wanting to use drugs but that's a much longer-term set of
changes to make over the long run - decades most likely.  Again, I don't think
that people should use recreational drugs, but they should have the personal
freedom to make that decision for themselves - and to get help without
consequence or shame if they make a mistake.  I'm getting off on a tangent now
so I'll cut myself off now, before I upset more people :)
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