Date: Fri, 02 Jul 1999 00:57:53 +0800
Author Lucifer69
Heidern FAQ for King of Fighters '98
-=== History ===-
This is the part where I tell you all what I did during this time for this FAQ, so this is pretty
much a part you can skip without feeling any guilt at all.. not that you'll feel any if you skip
all the FAQ altogether..
ver what actually DID in spite of planning..
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0.1 the actual original work comes out.. aspire to finish within the last one hour
before I go out from the place I stay here and fetch my girl...
-=== Copyright ... ===-
well this has been a work by me, Lawrence, aka, LucifeR69, any works that reproduces this FAQ
in any form for the uses for monetary exchange will be condemned by me and legal action would be
seeked. (err... that's all i know.. anyone want to add in more? :p)
any other FAQs who wants to quote me would have to seek permission from me, Lawrence, in form of
writing to :
[email protected]
anyone who wants to clobber me may also contact me at this address, otherwise, only girls may
email me..
:)
-=== ForeworD ===-
Second of my FAQ I tried to write, not much feedback for my Ralf FAQ, since no news would most
probably means good news, then I think that I could start with my second FAQ... email me for any
comment or combo listings..
-=== You say you let your guard down? I think you're just a weenie! heidern...'98 ===-
I rip these information off 'THE STORY OF THE KING OF FIGHTERS TOURNAMENT' by Kailu Lantis, so
thanks for all of these information.. :p
but the Heidern i know.. cool, very very cool.. and most of all he sucks blood outta ya.. :)
Birthdate : 1/9/1954
Birthplace : Unknown..
Height : 1.92 m (personally I think he is much taller than this...)
Weight : 90 kg
Favourite food : Stout beer and homemade sausages (he's a killer and he likes sausage... a
bit of contradiction here and there isn't it?)
Favourite sport : Hunting
Hates most : Rugal (he DID took his right eye.. that I understand..)
Fighting Style : Martial arts and self taught assasination techniques.
First appeared in KoF '94 and consequtively on KoF '95.. the rest is just left for his best
student and comrades, Leona, Ralf and Clark. He looks very cool with his army uniform and most
of his move involve blood splattering here and there.. what's a good game without any blood?
-=== MovelisT ===-
Here I shall use the method use by MoonRun, since I notice most of the FAQ's are written in this
form. Not that I can't think of a new one.. just don't want to add in to more confusion.. so
MoonRun.. the credit goes to you here.
dn/dwn = press down.. that's pushing your joystick thingy towards down..
up = pretty much self explanatory from now on isn't it?
bk = back
fw = forward
s = store for a few secs..
QCB = quarter cirlce back joystick motion
* note to old school KoF '97 people.. no more shortcuts for ya.. :p
QCF = quarter circle forward...
A = A button = light punch
B = B button = light kick
C = C button = heavy punch
D = D button = heavy kick
(C) - corner combos, combos that only work in the corner.
(DM) - DM combos, combos that involve super moves or desperation moves.
(MAX)- must be maxed out or POWered up for this combo to work.
(MID)- opponent must be mid-air for this to work.
(CSP)- combos that are started off a crossup/overlap attack
(2nd)- combos that involve more than 3 stocks of super(Advance mode)
i.e. 2nd Character onwards in advance mode.
-=== Moves rundowN ===-
For this I would use the method popularized by... err... I don't know really.. so the would
that particular person write to me? :p
@@@@@@ Normal moveS @@@@@@
### Standing faR ###
Button = A
Description = quick jab to the torso/head area.
Usefulness = *
Rundown = A button
Button = B
Description = quick poking kick to the mid section.
Usefulness = **
Rundown = slightly better range than A button, less hassle, does not combo, poke better, but
still quite useless all the same.
Button = C
Description = Heidern stretches his arm far out, slow to come out... strange way of using..
a not so good keep away move.
Usefulness = **
Rundown = How can I describe this, actually, this move of his stretches out quite a bit, but
it's slow to come out. Besides his range I don't recommend using this move too
much.
Button = D
Description = takes a sweet time to step forward, and later stretches his leg out and kick high
Usefulness = -*
Rundown = ..... what is this move about anyway??? but one word of comfort though, you can
laugh like sh** when someone actually fall for this move.. hysterical laugh would
be much more appropriate here... get what I mean?
Button = CD
Description = Heidern makes some kind of sign towards the sky... interesting, but, it only hits
high. Nice way the screen shakes when he makes the move... or is it me laughing
like a maniac again...? hmmm...
Usefulness = ****
Rundown = The move itself is slow, but the 4 stars doesn't come cheap, there's a good reason
for it. As a counter move.. nope, I'm not just talking about guard counter, I'm
talking about anti AB roll and anti air move here..
Yep, you're right with your eyes, in some sense this move is a bit like Yashiro's
CD move, it starts slow, everything else comes out in a blinding speed, and it
would last for almost half a sec or so.. I'll explain more on this move later..
### Standing closE ###
Button = A
Description = a quick jab to the torso.
Usefulness = ***
Rundown = comes out quite quick, and technically it IS comboable to most of other move. The
only down side is that it's range.
Button = B
Description = quick knee kick to the midsection
Usefulness = ***
Rundown = one of your bread and butter move, like standing close A, it combos out fine.
Button = C
Description = He stretches his arm up, hitting two times with it.
Usefulness = *****
Rundown = combos well, decent damage, good range.. what else? oh yeah.. one bad thing about
it, you've to be quite close for it to come out, otherwise standing C would most
of the time means curtains down time for ya.
Button = D
Description = Heidern raises leg a bit, Heidern kick, Heidern sometimes misses, sometimes hits..
Usefulness = **
Rundown = Well.. it DOES comboes.. and it does do some decent damage.. just don't do it as
much, maybe it's because of the overwhelming properties of close C's that
overshadows this move.. anyone else wanna commend about this move of his?
### CrouchinG ###
Button = A
Description = short jab to the knee area
Usefulness = ****
Rundown = fast in execution, almost no lag, nice damage, pokes well, comboes..
what else do you really need huh?
Button = B
Description = quick kick to the foot
Usefulness = **
Rundown = ABSOLUTELY does not combo, BUT it hits so far, I'm starting to wonder if he's
actually using a stick instead.. well actually not THAT obsence of a range, but
far enough.. really.. :)
Button = C
Description = Looks a bit like crouching A, 'cept that he actually swings the whole arm this
time..
Usefulness = ****
Rundown = good range, nice poke, comes out quite fast and it combos. Good move..
Button = D
Description = ... his legs.. his legs.. like what I said earlier for crouching B.. this move's
range is... is... is... obscene... ! He kinda stretches his legs out and hits low
and FAR..
Usefulness = ****
Rundown = Use it, abuse it's range, but don't overuse it, the range does comes back with a
teeny weeny downside, it's lag time is quite deceptively long.. long enough for
mashing maidens like move kick back your sorry little... err.. bottom (no bad
words in here...)
### JumpinG ###
Button = A
Description = gives out a short jab
Usefulness = *
Rundown = in short.. another useless move...
Button = B
Description = jumping... short kick..
Usefulness = it's a kick...
Rundown = not really a big deal is it?
Button = C
Description = Move that makes me wanna cry... leans forward and stretching his whole body out
crossing his hands and diving down..
Usefulness = *****(*)
Rundown = THE only move you should use for jumping besides CD. Why? Simply because of it's
crossup ability. Combos into almost anything.. nice priority as well...
Button = D
Description = a deep kick downward
Usefulness = ***
Rundown = hhhmmmmm... seems a bit like Ralf's jumping D, but I might be wrong with this.
Button = CD
Description = I don't really know what he did, he kinda crosses his hands, and then, wham, this
black patch of shadow, which looks.... I don't know.. how can I describe this??
Usefulness = *****
Rundown = COOL priority, kills off most of other moves in the game, doesn't combo, but let
you in on the range of him. Since he's best kept at medium range...
@@@@@@ Command moveS @@@@@@
Move name = Lead Belcher
Execution = b/f + C
Description = Heidern grabs, Heidern picks people up, Heidern slams, Heidern give a mean stab..
*note ... something interesting I discovered of this move, it might be my mistake, but this, move
itself is a throw... BUT, it seems to have a longer range of throw than that of others
not that it would grab you off half screen or something.. but frankly, I really think
that it is wee bit further range for a grab.
Move name = Backstabbing
Execution = b/f + D
Description = Heidern grabs, Heidern move to the back and leave opponent with some kinda stab,
opponents flys of almost half screen...
Move name = Critical Drive
Execution = When close, any direction but u + C/D.. (not many in this game are bestowed with
an at throw, so.. be very grateful for it...)
Move name = Shooting Narnagel (SN)
Execution = f + B
A bit of note on this, this is your usual crouching hitter, as a combo it loses that property,
but what the heck it combos off quite well I must say.. oh yeah... it hits' twice and as a combo,
it would only connect on the first move..
@@@@@@ Special moveS @@@@@@
Move name = Cross Cutter
Execution = bk s fw + A/C
Description = Heidern shoots off a nice wide airborne white shiny thingy to the air... fireball
some call it, but I still think it's way bigger than a fireball..
Usefulness = *****
Rundown = Don't abuse this move too much, mainly because of its lag, and you'll be called a
scrub.... ok enough joke... USE IT LIKE HE**... bwah ha ha ha... especially the A
version, it comes out fast, travels unusually slow... high enough for those jumper
to be hit with, low enough for numbskulls who AB roll all the time.. keeps enemy
at a more comfortable range..
Move name = Moon Slasher
Execution = dw s up + A/C
Description = he was the one who taught this to Leona in the first place.. He crouch while
making a big circle with his hands...
Usefulness = ****
Rundown = Anti air, combo ender.... only bad thing.. lags a bit for C version, and Clark's
Rolling Cradle and other running move seems to go through it.. strictly as a combo
and anti air purposes, other than that.. you've better choices right?
Move name = Neck Rolling
Execution = dw s up + B/D
Description = Heidern leaps into the air, coming down heads first, if opponent don't block,
he'll, like the namesake, grab on to the neck of the opponent, spins and rolls the
neck.. DUH! Travels half screen for B version, D version covers almost a full
screen.
Usefulness = ***
Rundown = Cool looking move man... sometimes it actually connects just right after a
successful Cross Cutter.. the downside of the move is that it could only be an
anti air IF, he jumps higher than the opponent, meaning that the jump must not
just only be anticipated very very early, he must also be the one who jumps first
in order for him to 'roll' on..
Move name = Storm Bringer
Execution = hcb + A/C
Description = This move is the ONLY reason why I use him... :)
anyway, this move, as a command throw, actually pulls your oppenent towards you
and 'sucks' off his blood..
Usefulness = *****(*)
Rundown = When you're low on blood.. just grab on to someone close to you and drink..!
:)
Anyway, this move doesn't combo under normal circumstances only in crossups
, because it's range is shorter compared to other throw moves, but it is enough
to make you thank whoever that thought up this move by kissing their feets
whenever you pull it off.
Think of it this way.. you're low on blood, someone could just touch you and you
will whither, and you suck man.. suck like you never suck before...
Jam the button like mad to make the move longer..
Move name = Killing Bringer
Execution = hcf + B/D
Description = the usual 'you hit me and die' move.. B blocks middle and D blocks high..
Usefulness = **
Rundown = Compared to other similar move, it comes out pretty slow, making it a bit
difficult to time, making this miserable for this move, but if you pull it off,
it have the same properties of sucking the blood off your opponent... but
don't do this too much.. come to think of it.. don't use it unless you just want
to have some fun, or your Start button is jammed..
@@@@@@ Supers @@@@@@@
DM moves or Desperation Moves.. or whatever..
Move name = Final Bringer
Execution = qcf, qcf + A/C
Description = A mixture for Rolling Neck and Storm Bringer.. get the rough idea?
Usefulness = ****
Rundown = what not to do with this move..
- anti air,
- do this as an individual move,
- do this just for the sake of getting some life back,
- don't jam the button for longer time.. it doesn't work that way with this.. just
press on to the C button when it is hit..
why? Because simply it wasn't really meant that way.. unless your opponent are
suckers.. that can't be blame.. imagine this, the lag time is... GARGANTOUS.. most
of others can get back to you on a miss move..
what to do with this move..
- combo it after close C, or crossup C or the combination of two
- anti AB rolling..
Yep, 'cept for this two reason, this move shouldn't be used this way, since the
move actually connects for the entire motion when Heidern jumps, he does not have
too much of an invincibility frame, only a tiny moment there before he jumps. Thus
try to connect this move before the jump reaches the peak. So it can be better
connected. Another property of it is as an anti rolling type of move.. see, if
timed correctly, you can actually connects the move before the sucker could either
execute the move, or right before he comes out of it.. making use of that fraction
of a sec of invincibility frame...
One hit move.. sucks blood.. of yeah.. Heidern says... GO TO HELL.. nope not me..
that's what he really said.. :p
*hold C button to kinda lengthen it.. but don't mash buttons like Storm Bringer, it would only make it end faster..
Move name = Heidern End
Execution = qcb, hcf + B/D
Description = Heidern thrust his hand forwards, hits high, if connects, Heidern pulls back his
arm while your opponent flies onto oblivion..
Usefulness = ***
Rundown = The only use for this is for either anti air and combo ender, although it have a
quite decent amount of damage, but strictly speaking, it's only meant for combos..
it's not quite reliable as an antiair.. will trade moves sometimes for this
property.. other than combos, personnaly, i don't tend to abuse this move too much
... I'm too engrossed with Storm Bringer anyway.. oh yeah, he also shouts GO TO
HELL in this move...
@@@@@@ ComboS @@@@@@@
To tell you the truth.. he have little of them, most of them quite damaging, but little variety
makes him pretty dull if compared to Terry or Iori.
low A, low A
low B, low A
low B, low B (and yes add in another one of that if the opponent didn't quite got pushed off yet)
close C, Moon Slasher
+close C, SN
close B, Moon Slasher (it combos, but hard to pull off.. but i tell you, it's true..)
close B, Storm Bringer (the only legit combo from a standing combo that ends with SB that
actually would connect..)
jump in C, close B, Moon Slasher
jump in C, close C, Moon Slasher
jump in C, close D, Moon Slasher
jump in C, crouch A, Moon Slasher
jump in C, crouch C, Moon Slasher
**+jump in C, close A, SN, Moon Slasher
**+jump in C, close B, SN, Moon Slasher
**+jump in C, crouch A, SN, Moon Slasher
**+jump in C, close C, SN, Moon Slasher
* done close, if not would whiff ;)
** these moves can be replaced with jump in D or crossup C instead of jump in C
+ these moves can end with Heidern End instead.
@@@@@@ OpponentS @@@@@@
That's what all FAQ's comes down to doesn't it? If it can't help you to win what is it good for?
:p
I've already planned to write down this for the FAQ before it is written, Heidern is not really
someone that is often used by seasoned player, in the arcade I always go to, there are only three
person who uses Heidern quite regularly inclusive of me... so as someone who is often left on
the shelf, I'm sure that Heidern deserves a much better recognition than this.
OK, here it is...
Heidern is best kept in a medium length, meaning a two or one person distance away from your
opponent, this is where your A cross cutter can do their jobs. A cross cutters are not just to
hit people with. Hitting is fine.. but due to it's enormous width, it is good enough to keep your
opponent from jumping and slow enough to keep your opponent from rolling.. be careful about the
distance, cause one wrong move usually means that your opponent would roll through and do their
damage. BUT! with the right distance, even if they can roll through, you can either throw them
with Lead Belcher or suck them dry with Storm Bringer. Interesting enough after a few successful
hit with A cross cutten, they don't seem to jump so much anymore..
CD, as a jumping move, it possess insane priority if done early enough, good enough for an anti
air move, so use this more often for anti air since it keeps the opponent to the distance you
wanted to. Use this as a early anti air, when you anticipated a jump or a roll in, it's hard to
estimate the timing, but the good part is the satisfaction you get and the screams of curses
coming from your opponent when you pull this one off.
Storm Bringer is an important arsenal in your weaponary. Throw one off while running towards your
opponent, since they know you can't pull off a cross cutter, they'll try and make some move,
they might jump, or they might AB roll, some turtler might wait for you to make some sorta move
and they would move to counter it. As for the latter two, this is where Storm Bringer does it's
work. As the same as any command throw, the Storm Bringer does offer a teeny bit of invincibility
frame, so make good use of it. It's especially good against AB rollers, one interesting bit, even
if the opponent avoided the front part of your throw, they would still be sucked in if they're
backward, so in other words, it would never whiff on AB rollers.
Throw in some crouching D's, abuse it's worth, it's long, have decent damage and most of all it have a heck
of a range, throw a cross cutter and immediately do a crouching D's, you'll be surprised how much
'feedback' you'll get.
Begin your match by jump CD. It would tell you a lot on your enemy. If you do not know him well,
offensive is always the best choice. Throw up a Storm Bringer when he does not do anything or
just AB roll away when they simply AB roll back on their match.
As a conclusion, keep your distance not too far.. abuse the A cross cutter, mix it up the next
move between crouching D's or standing CD's. Once you phyche up your opponents, walk forward and
use Storm Bringer whenever you feel lucky. All in all, give your opponents no time to think.. let
you dominate.
One very interesting tactic I've used, but don't do this often.. :p
ok... this move was done after I've scared him a lot.. :)
Run forward, Storm Bringer, Run Forward Storm Bringer (* yep again...), and finally, Run Forward,
B Killing Bringer... see how much damage you can do when you know what your opponent are doing?
Anticipate your opponents move, kill them before they kill you...
--Opponent--
Iori..
OK, he eat's up cross cutter's pretty usually, so try to keep a medium distance, throw crouching
D's here and there, run up and do a Storm Bringer. For those who fancy fireballs, try to do a
Rolling neck to counter him once in a while..
Yashiro
Jump CD, stand CD, Cross Cutter, you name it, he pretty much eats everything of it.. but for
Orochi Yashiro, try to keep a medium distance and let your Cross Cutter phyche him up before you
do anything...
Terry...
Low jumper.. would eat most of the Cross Cutter you give him, and most of the time, fall for the
silly wait and Storm Bringer move tactic. A 50% match depending on your opponent.
Vice
Not good, throw her before she comes out of a roll, jump CD all you want, jump pray you don't
land next to her..
Takuma
Cross Cutter, jump CD's .. usual tactic. If he's not stocked, run forward and give him a Storm
Bringer.
Daimon
Get in a comfortable distance, Cross Cutter.
For other people, refer to the general tactics, it pretty much squares up everyone in the game..
Well it does seems that Heidern abuses a lot on his Cross Cutter, see what I mean when I said
that Cross Cutter is not just for hitting your opponents? :)
