===Fishing Skill Cap List===

===Fishing Skill Cap List===

=== Contents ===

1) Intro
2) Version History
3) Skill Gain Trivial Chart
4) Poles and Rods
5) Baits and Lures
6) Credits

=== (1) Intro ===

Most of the basics of fishing can already be found in other guides and probably
do a better job of explainig than I can. The meat of this guide is the skill gain
chart found in section (3), which lists when you will expect to stop gaining on
a certain fish. The other sections, (4) and (5) are my personal thoughts on Rods
and Baits on what I've experianced with fishing, and from what I've heard and read
from Japanese players and Japanese Fansites.

I take no credit other than the translation for the chart found in
section (3) of this guide. Information for the Skill Cap list was all
translated from here: http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Bishop/7994/index.html

=== (2) Version History ===

1.0 First Translation, anything with a '?' after it still needs to be verified

1.1 68 ??? changed to "Ides Catfish?"

1.2 Greedie will bite on minnow lure.
Greedie, Zafmlug Bass, Cobalt Jelly can be caught with the worm lure.
? removed from Giant Catfish on "Sinking Minnow" lure, this was verified
Thanks to Hattori, Midgardsormr for these verifications!
Yellow Globe can be caught with Lugworm, thanks OmenCat!
Slice of Carp verified for Crayfish, thanks TheWatcherUatu!
Sabiki Rig verified for Zamflug Bass, thanks Yolos of Odin!
Minnow verified for Giant Catfish and Dark Bass by me.

1.3 Changed Layout, added (5) Baits and Lures
Updated section (4) Poles and Rods,

1.31 Cobalt Jellyfish added, Silver Shark verified, and No Gain verified on some items
Thanks again Akira!

1.32 Sea Zombie verified as a name

1.33 Baits verified for many fish, thanks Hellheart and Yolos

1.4 Monke-Onke bait: Little Worm confirmed. thanks Veracity!
Minnow added to bait for Cheval Salmon and Shining Trout
Rods section updated a bit with Glass Rod info

=== (3) Skill Gain Caps ===

Again, I take no credit for the information provided below, other than the
translation of it from Japanese to English. The original is found on
this page: http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Bishop/7994/index.html

Anything with a "?" after it has not confirmed Guild Price is what the
Fishing Guild in Port Windurst would BUY these fish for from me with around
20 fame, so prices may vary. If Guild Price lists "x" it means I couldn't
find a guild vendor that would buy that fish.

_______________________________________________________________________________
|Name |Skill Cap|Water Type| Bait |Guild Price| Size |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Cobalt Jellyfish | 3-6? | Salt | Any? | 17? |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Crayfish | 7 | Fresh | Little Worm, | 23 |Small |
| | | | Slice of Carp, | | |
| | | | Shrimp Lure | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Bastore Sardine | 10 | Salt | Lugworm, Sabiki | 16 |Small |
| | | | Rig | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Moat Carp | 11 | Fresh | Little Worm, | 30 |Small |
| | | | Insect Ball | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Greedie | 14 | Salt | Lugworm? | 17 |Small |
| | | | Minnow, Worm | | |
| | | | Lure | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Copper Frog | 16 | Fresh | Fly, Shell Bug | 58 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Yellow Globe | 17 | Salt | Sabiki Rig, | 56 |Small |
| | | | Lugworm, | | |
| | | | Crayfish Ball | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Quus | 19 | Salt | Lugworm, Sabiki | 45 |Small |
| | | | Rig | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Cheval Salmon | 21 | Fresh | Fly, Minnow | 58 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Fat Greedie | 23 | Salt | Worm Lure, Lug | x |Small |
| | | | Worm | | |
| | | | Sliced Sardine | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Tricolored Carp | 27 | Fresh | Little Worm, | 115 |Small |
| | | | Insect Ball, | | |
| | | | Shrimp Lure | | |
| | | | Shell Bug? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Pipira | 29 | Fresh | Meatball, Minnow| 135 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Tiger Cod | 29 | Salt | Sardine Ball | 115 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Nebimonite | 30 | Salt | Crayfish Ball | 154 |Small |
| | | | Shrimp Lure? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Giant Catfish | 31 | Fresh | Frog Lure, Slice| 225 |Large |
| | | | of Carp? | | |
| | | | Sinking Minnow, | | |
| | | | Minnow | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Dark Bass | 33 | Fresh | Little Worm, | 50 |Small |
| | | | Insect Ball, | | |
| | | | Minnow, | | |
| | | | Worm Lure? Slice| | |
| | | | of Carp? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Ogre Eel | 34 | Salt | Peeled Shrimp, | 73 |Small |
| | | | Sliced Sardine | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Crystal Bass | 35 | Fresh | Little Worm, | x |Small |
| | | | Insect Ball, | | |
| | | | Worm Lure? Slice| | |
| | | | of Carp? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Shining Trout | 37 | Fresh | Fly, Slice of | 58 |Small |
| | | | Carp? Minnow | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Nosteau Herring | 39 | Salt | Shrimp Lure, | 180 |Small |
| | | | Sardine Ball | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Gugru Tuna | 41 | Salt | Sliced Sardine, | 278 |Both? |
| | | | Minnow | | |
| | | | Shrimp Lure? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Zafmlug Bass | 43 | Salt | Lugworm, Worm | 87 |Small |
| | | | Lure, Slice of | | |
| | | | Carp? Sabiki Rig| | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Gold Lobster | 46 | Salt | Sliced Sardine | 430 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Black Eel | 47 | Fresh | Little Worm, | 439 |Small |
| | | | Peeled Crayfish,| | |
| | | | Worm Lure | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Ice Fish | 49 | Fresh | Little Worm, | 442 |Small |
| | | | Sabiki Rig | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Sand Fish | 50? | Fresh | Little Worm | 58 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Giant Donko | 50? | Fresh | Peeled Crayfish | x |Large?|
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Minnow? Slice of| | |
| | | | Carp? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Monke-Onke | 51 | Fresh | Peeled Crayfish,| 675 |Large |
| | | | Shrimp Lure | | |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Minnow? | | |
| | | | Slice of Carp? | | |
| | | | Little Worm | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Red Terrapin | 52 | Fresh | Shell Bug, | 780 |Small |
| | | | Frog Lure | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Blue Tail | 55 | Salt | Sliced Sardine | 675 |Small |
| | | | Shrimp Lure? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Gold Carp | 56 | Fresh | Little Worm, | 675 |Small |
| | | | Insect Ball | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Bhefhel Marlin | 60? | Salt | Peeled Shrimp, | 898 |Large |
| | | | Slice of Blue | | |
| | | | Tail? Minnow? | | |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Shrimp Lure? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Shall Shell | 61? | Salt | Crayfish Ball | 675 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Blade Fish | 64 | Salt | Sliced Sardine | 900 |Large |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Minnow? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Crescent Fish | 64 | Fresh | Frog Lure? | 990 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Noble Lady | 66 | Salt | Sliced Sardine | 1000 |Large |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Minnow? Shrimp | | |
| | | | Lure? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Gavial Fish | 67 | Fresh | Meatball | 1500 |Large |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Minnow? | | |
| | | | Slice of Carp? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Ides Catfish? | 68 | Fresh | Peeled Crayfish | x |Large |
| | | | Minnow? | | |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Slice of Carp? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Silver Shark | 76? | Salt | Meatball, Sliced| 1500? |Small?|
| | | | Cod? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Three Eye Fish | 78 | Salt | Slice of Blue | x |Large |
| | | | Tail? Minnow? | | |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Bastore Bream | 86 | Salt | Minnow? Sinking | 1350 |Both? |
| | | | Minnow? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Black Sole | 89 | Salt | Shrimp Lure | 1575 |? |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Grimmonite | 87 | Salt | Shrimp Lure | 1711 |Large?|
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
| | | | Minnow? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Coral Butterfly | ?? | Salt | ? | 374 |Large?|
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Zebra Eel | ?? | Salt | ? | 1200 |Large?|
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Forest Carp | ?? | Fresh | Little Worm? | 45 |Small |
| | | | Insect Ball? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Elshimo Frog | ?? | Fresh | Fly? | 152 |? |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Elshimo Newt | ?? | Fresh | ? | 524 |? |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Jungle Catfish | ?? | Fresh | Frog Lure? Slice| 1800 |Large |
| | | | of Carp? Minnow?| | |
| | | | Sinking Minnow? | | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Sea Zombie | ?? | Salt | Meatball, Only | x |? |
| | | | on Pirate Route?| | |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Titanictus | ?? | Salt | | x |? |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Takitaro | ?? | Fresh | | x |? |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Pamtam Kelp | No Gain | Salt | Anything | 17 |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| "Rusty" Items | No Gain | Both | Anything | x |Large |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Gil | No Gain | Both | Anything | x |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|
| Rings | No Gain | Both? | Anything | x |Small |
|___________________|_________|__________|_________________|___________|______|

=== (4) Poles and Rods ===

My thoughts on rods, I've used at least 10 of each on many different fishing
areas, baits and types of fish and broken them all. Mithran I've only broken
once on Large ocean fish. I've set to break a composite. Note: I haven't used
Lu Shang's.

Mithran Rod - Good for Fresh Water fishing, this can catch all "Small" sized
fish without breaking, as well as be able to withstand the weight
of the occasional "Rusty" item. This rod will last you for a good
amount of time. If you do manage to break it, you should be able
to sell the broken rod for almost as much (if not as much) as a
brand new one. I'd use a Glass Fiber Fishing Rod over this.

Carbon Rod - OK for "Small" fishing. But it will break with "Rusty" items.
I would recomend this item only for Salt Water fishing using
the Sabiki Rig for best results. When and If you do break one of
these on a rusty item, you can sell the broken rod for about
half the price of a new one.

Composite Rod - Best for Salt Water and Fresh Water "Large" fishing. Broken can
be sold for about half to three forths the price of a new one.

Lu Shang's - Best for "Small" fishing. From what I hear, it is unbreakable.
The Quest for this rod is in Port Sandoria.

Clothespole - Best "Cheap" rod, I still recomend a Mithran over it, but I know
how it is to be tight on cash. Upgrade to Mithran as soon as
possible. Can sell a broken one for less than half the price a
new one costs.

Bamboo - I'd use a Clothespole over it personally, but I highly recomend
just saving and getting a Mithran instead. Not worth selling
broken.

Yew - see "Bamboo", not worth selling broken.

Willow - see "Bamboo", not worth selling broken.

Fast Water - see "Bamboo" broken is worth half of the price of "new".

Tarutaru - see "Bamboo" broken is worth half of the price of "new".

Glass Fiber - If you have a little bit more money on hand, or have enough
Alchemy skill to repair these, I would use these over a mithran.
They seemingly have a higher bite rate than most rods.

Single Hook - see "Clothespole", broken is worth half of the price of "new".

- How fishing rods work -

"Big fish" rods can catch small fish, just not ALL small fish. The way fishing
works, in very basic terms, each time you cast, the game factors in weather,
time of day, moon phase, what bait you have, what skill you have. From that it
decides if you hook a fish or not. Then, probably randomly within a set of max
and minimum it can come up with, it decides how "big" the fish is.

You see this more with the larger fish like Giant Catfish, where it actually
displays the fish size in its description after you fish it up.

Then finaly, it checks what rod you are using. If that weight is within the
minimum range, you will catch the fish. If that weight is beyond the maximum,
the line breaks or the rod itself breaks.

In the japanese version of the chart in section (4) it actually shows what range
fish can be in, I was tired, and feeling a bit lazy at that point and just wanting
to get the guide done and out there so I just simplified everything to "Small" or
"Large". The way they showed it was by classifing fish sizes by chance of how often
it was small or large, and something else that I couldn't translate. I'll improve
this at a later point possibly. But pretty much, 1/4 the time while fishing with
a Big Fish rod you will get the "too small" message, 3/4 the time you will actually
catch the small fish.

This is another reason why I recomend the Mithran Rod. It seemingly has a better
chance of catching the smaller "small" fish than other Big Fish rods. I assume it
has a lower minimum number, as well as a smaller maximum which is why I recomend
the Composite for actual "Big" fish fishing, as I've broken a mithran rod fishing
for "Big" fish.

=== (5) Baits and Lures ===

Not going to list all baits and lures here, because they all have their time and
place. The chart in section (3) should tell you what works with what, and what
doesn't. The Baits and Lures listed below are just what I've personally seen work
best.

Sabiki Lure - Great Saltwater fishing lure for 0 fishing to low 20's. This can
catch you up to 3 fish at once.

Minnow - Good for 10+ fishing skill along with a "Big Fish" pole, I
personally say only use this along with a Composite Rod. You will
tend to catch bigger fish with this, I've personally broken a
Mithran Rod using this lure.

Sinking Minnow - See "Minnow", same basic idea, just slightly differn't fish, and
and seemingly bigger fish.

Shrimp Lure - Great Saltwater fishing lure for 20-30+ skill, best results with
Ocean fishing, done off a boat. I tend to hang out on the Selbina-
Mhaura boat with this lure for great results. Only use Composite
with this lure unless you have a very large supply of Gil.

Insect Ball - This along with a Mithran Rod in fresh water can be a nice money
maker. Go to areas with Moat Carp like Windurst and sell in 12 stacks
on Auction House. Or save those Moat Carp for a certain quest =)

=== (6) Credits ===

The skill chart was translated from Japanese to English by Brian "Trent" Bunge
from: http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Bishop/7994/index.html

Most of the translation was done with: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

Stuff that couldn't be translated by Babel Fish was translated by Japanese friends
in game. Special thanks to Akira of Quetzalcoatel for most of the Japanese to
English help. Doumo arigatou gozai-masu Akira. ^^

All trademarks and copyrights 2003-2004 of their respective holders. This guide may
be reproduced only with my written permission and as long as it remains credited
to Brian "Trent" Bunge and http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Bishop/7994/index.html .