Casino Kid FAQ
Copyrighted 1989 by Sofel
Written By: Brian P. Sulpher
E-Mail:
[email protected]
Version 1.8
Date Written: July 18 through July 20, 2002
I dedicate this game to J&B's Video Game Store. Without there used games
for sale, I never would have bought this gem of a game for my brother all
those years ago.
Also, for Cougar. I miss you, and I hope you are living it up in the
afterlife as you did in this world. You will always be in my memories, and
you will never be forgotten.
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Version 1.0
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-Submitted on July 20th, 2002
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Version 1.2
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-Submitted December 4th, 2002
-Took out Unicode markers (back to ASCII)
-Added map of Casino with locales of players marked
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Version 1.5
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-Submitted guide on May 30th, 2003
-Reformatted for a more polished look
-Fixed the Map Of Casino section to include complete KEYs
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Version 1.6
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-Submitted guide on March 18th, 2004
-Reformatted a few areas of the FAQ
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Version 1.7
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-Submitted guide on March 28th, 2005
-I added in Honestgamers as a site allowed to use my FAQs
-Altered the format significantly to make the FAQ read a little bit better
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Version 1.8
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-Submitted guide on June 22nd, 2005
-I added in Retronintendo as a site allowed to use my FAQs
-Altered the format to make it easier on the eyes of the reader
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----------------------------------Table of Contents-------------------------
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1) Introduction
2) Controls
3) Winning Hand Rankings
4) Blackjack Strategies
5) Order Of Playing Opponents
6) Location Of Opponents
7) Map Of Casino
8) Opponents Bios And Stats
9) Passwords
10)The Final Opponent
11)Final Words
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------------------------------------Introduction----------------------------
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1) This is a game about a youth (the "Casino Kid") entering the Golden
Crumbs Casino to challenge eight poker and eight blackjack opponents.
His goal is to get his winnings up to $1,000,000 from his meager start of
$500. If Casino Kid can do the near impossible, he will get to face-off
with a mystery opponent in a secret location in the ultimate showdown.
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-------------------------------------Controls-------------------------------
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2) The controls to get you where and what you need.
D-Pad====> up, down, left, right all move you in the same direction pressed,
left and right picks chip for betting, up and down picks amount
of chip being betted.
A Button=> the A button is to talk to people, to enter commends.
B Button=> the B button cancels choices, also calls for new cards during
poker allows fold during poker. Also, allows player to turn down
playing an opponent (used to exit conversation).
SELECT===> select calls for password when wandering the casino, allows
player to ask for last hand/bet all money options when in play.
START====> start has no function once you enter the game.
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----------------------------Winning Hands Ranking---------------------------
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3) This section will list the hierarchy of winning hands for poker from
lowest hand rank to highest.
High Card========> Five different non-sequential, at least two different
suits, and no repeated cards. Usually not a good hand to
bet large amounts on, but risk it if you feel lucky.
One Pair=========> Having two cards the same, and three other different
cards. These are fairly common, so you or your opponent
can get these often.
Two Pair=========> Having two cards the same, as well as another two the
same, but different from the first pair. Also, a fifth
card that is different from the rest. A solid hand to
start betting a large amount of money to drain your
opponent, but be wary of betting too much.
Three of a Kind==> Having three cards the same, with two other different
cards. A very good chance of winning the hand with this,
but there are better combos to consider.
Straight=========> Having five sequential cards, that are made up of more
than one suit. Another solid hand to bet large amounts
of money on.
Flush============> Five non-sequential cards, all of the same suit. Hard to
get, but will win hands more often than not.
Full House=======> having three of a kind and a pair at the same time. Bet
lots of money because this one is very hard to lose on.
Four of a Kind===> Having all four of a card, and one other different card.
When you enter this range of good cards, rarely will you
see a better hand. This is a 98% of the time winner.
Straight Flush===> Five sequential same suited cards. Even better chances
of winning, so let us say a 99% of the time winner. Only
time these rules do not make a straight flush is when the
hand is a...
Royal Flush======> This near impossible hand to get is when the five
sequential same suit cards are: Ten, Jack, Queen, King,
Ace. This hand is a guaranteed winner (except if someone
else has a royal flush themselves). I have seen three of
these myself; twice in this game, and once in real life.
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-------------------------------Blackjack Strategies-------------------------
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4) There are a few rules & thoughts to keep in mind when playing this very
challenging strategic game.
a) Keep in mind a dealer must stop hitting when they have 17 or higher.
This also means that they can not stop short of 17 either (16 or less
for the dealer means they must hit until they are 17 or higher).
b) Blackjacks pay 3 to 2, which means you get back what you bet, an equal
amount to that, plus an extra half of what you bet as a reward.
c) If there is a tie, no winner is awarded, and you get your money back.
This is called a "Push".
d) You can not go over 21, so you must decide what number you will stop
hitting (getting more cards) on. The general rule is to HIT until 14,
then a player must decide how lucky they feel, what they think their
opponent is holding, and what cards are gone (count what cards are gone
since they only shuffle every so often).
e) If you have two cards the same off of the deal, then you can choose the
SPLIT option. This will make you have two hands instead of one. This
means you can win double your money, but lose double your money. The key
to success is to pick the right hand to split. What makes a good split
hand you ask? Well, the following are all solid choices: two aces (the
best because it can give two blackjacks), two tens, jacks, queens, kings
(gets many twenties), and nine, eight for high scores with ten point
cards.
f) The DOUBLE DOWN is a big risk to take, but when done in the right
situation, can make for a lot of quick success. This can be done when
your card count off of the deal is 7 or higher. The dealer will tell you
if your double-down is accepted, and then you receive one card, and the
dealer can take as many cards (within the dealer rules) to try to beat
your hand. A very good strategy is to double when your card count is
from 9 to 11. This will yield a lot of 19,20, and 21 for you (win a lot)
and even 12 or 13 is quite good to go on (good chance of not busting).
g) If you want to try for a quick win, then use the bet all money strategy.
This can be done after the dealer has shuffled once, and then only part
way into the second set of deals. Usually it is better to have more
money than they do. It is a good way to gain a lot of money if you want
to risk all of your hard earned cash in one big gamble. This also
applies to poker, but they have to offer it first before you can ask them
for it. Many of your encounters will end in this fashion.
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----------------------------Order of Playing Opponents----------------------
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5) This section will list the Blackjack and Poker opponents hierarchy of
play (need to beat lowest to get to next one).
a) Blackjack Opponents b) Poker Opponents
Lisa Joseph
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v v
Martha Stephen
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v v
Tom Ted
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v v
Harry Lloyd
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v v
Stefany Whitney
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v v
Clyde Jack
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v v
Bo Pam
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v v
Bruno Cindy
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\ MUST DEFEAT BOTH /
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\ TO GET TO /
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V
THE
FINAL
OPPONENT
c) This will show the order I follow when I play this game is:
Lisa => Joseph => Martha => Stephen => Tom => Ted => Harry => Stephany
=> Lloyd => Whitney => Jack => Clyde => Bo => Pam => Cindy => Bruno
The reason I alter from the almost always tried and true method of
blackjack to poker and back method is because Lloyd has a large amount
of money with high bet ranges (he also possesses unreasonably good luck).
Extra money from quick blackjack victories (Harry and Stephany) allow the
extra cash flow needed to take him on (and his lucky hits will not hurt
you as much). The other spot that deviates form this is playing poker
players Pam and Cindy to leave Bruno for last. This is done because
Bruno is a tough opponent because of his high bankroll, so extra cash
helps to get the best of him. This means you get a couple bet all money
options to beat him. Also, it means it is the easiest way to get to the
final opponent since he has no password to get directly to him (ie the
last, mystery opponent).
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--------------------------Location Of Opponents-----------------------------
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6) This section will be divided into Blackjack and Poker opponents for an
easier time locating them.
o-----------o
| Blackjack |
o-----------o
a) Lisa -> South between the poker room, and Stefany.
b) Martha -> West above the bar, and to the left of Lloyd (Poker Player).
c) Tom -> North-East Corner.
d) Harry -> Just below Tom.
e) Stefany -> just to left of Lisa.
f) Clyde -> Just above and to the right of Lisa.
g) Bo -> Right near the entrance, on other side of wall.
h) Bruno -> Right with Pam, to the right of Bo near the 'N' Sign.
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| Poker |
o-------o
a) Joseph -> Just to the right of Poker Room.
b) Stephen -> In North by three rows of slots.
c) Ted -> In East by row of two slots. To right of Harry (Blackjack
Player).
d) Lloyd -> In West, by Martha’s table, just above bar.
e) Whitney -> Below the Bar, in the South-West corner.
f) Jack -> Right in the Poker Room.
g) Pam -> Near the north, to the right of Stephen. Usually around.
h) Cindy -> Right at the bottom of the hallway from the entrance.
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------------------------------Map Of Casino---------------------------------
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7) This section will give a rough idea of where to find each card player in
the Casino.
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KEY |
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JOSEPH - 1st Poker Opponent |
STEPHEN - 2nd Poker Opponent |
Ted - 3rd Poker Opponent |
Lloyd - 4th Poker Opponent |
Whitney - 5th Poker Opponent |
Jack - 6th Poker Opponent |
Pam - 7th Poker Opponent |
Cindy - 8th Poker Opponent |
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KEY |
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LISA - 1st Blackjack Opponent |
MARTHA - 2nd Blackjack Opponent |
TOM - 3rd Blackjack Opponent |
HARRY - 4th Blackjack Opponent |
STEFANY - 5th Blackjack Opponent |
CLYDE - 6th Blackjack Opponent |
BO - 7th Blackjack Opponent |
BRUNO - 8th Blackjack Opponent |
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| STEPHEN |
| BRUNO |
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| PAM |
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| HARRY |
|CINDY |
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T CLYDE T
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| LLOYD |
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| STEPHANY LISA |
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----------------------------Opponents Bios And Stats------------------------
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8) This section will tell how much money an opponent has, the bet range,
what game they play, Their speech patterns, their face mannerisms, what
they say outside of playing, and what people in the casino know of there
weaknesses. For convenience, I will do it in the order I played the
opponents in.
a) Name...............: Lisa
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $500
Bet Range..........: $10-$100
Pre-Game Talk......: "Alright!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "Not Anymore!"
Speech Patterns....: "I'm Good, Ain't I?"
Facial Expressions.: Wins => moon eyes, and huge smile,
Loses => squiggly mouth, and large, calf eyes.
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
b) Name...............: Joseph
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $1,000
Bet Range..........: $10-$100
Pre-Game Talk......: "Be Ready, Kiddo."
Post-Game Talk.....: "No More Insult From You, Kiddo!"
Speech Patterns....: Says "Kiddo" a lot. Also, if he celebrates, he has
a good hand, if he is says "Ow" or "What Is This
Hand!?" then he probably only has high card
Facial Expressions.: Wins => moon eyes, and big open mouthed look
Loses => bug-eyed, and open mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: Joseph's Face Is An Open Book!
c) Name...............: Martha
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $1,000
Bet Range..........: $10-$100
Pre-Game Talk......: "Go South And Play With Lisa First."
"Oh, Well Ok."
Post-Game Talk.....: "Have Fun, Young Gentleman."
Speech Patterns....: says "Young Gentleman" a lot
Facial Expression..: Wins => moon eyes, and a small "o" mouth
Loses => bug-eyed, and open-mouthed
The Gambler Lowdown: Martha's Face Is Pretty Readable. (this is not
relevant because blackjack players never clue you
to what they have because of the randomness of the
cards).
d) Name...............: Stephen
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $2,000
Bet Range..........: $20-$200
Pre-Game Talk......: "Let's Play After You Beat Joseph!"
"Well, Fine With Me!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "I Don't Want To Play With You, You Know!?"
Speech Patterns....: Has no definitive phrase, but what he says is
how his cards are going. Good = good, bad = bad
Facial Expression..: Wins => moon eyes, and big open-mouthed smile
Loses => bug-eyed, and big frown
The Gambler Lowdown: Stephen Can't Hide His Emotion!
e) Name...............: Tom
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $2,000
Bet Range..........:$10-$100
Pre-Game Talk......: "I'm Handsome."
"Martha Is Waiting At The Other Side."
"Try Me!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "Enough's Enough."
Speech Patterns....: no definitive speech pattern
Facial Expressions.: Wins => closed eyes, with a big smirk
Loses => arches an eyebrow, and an open mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
f) Name...............: Ted
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $3,000
Bet Range..........: $30-$300
Pre-Game Talk......: "Later, Man!"
"Stephen Wants To Play With Ya Before Me!"
"Fine!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "Get Off My Face, Man!"
Speech Patterns....: Says "Man" a lot, and he always show opposite of
his feelings, so celebrating means he has no
good cards, complaining means he has something
good.
Facial Expressions.: Wins => moon eye, and big smirk.
Loses => large eyes, and gaping mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: Ted Shows Opposite Feeling On His Face!
g) Name...............: Harry
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $8,000
Bet Range..........: $100-$1,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "I Have Better Things To Do, Punk."
"Wrong Table Punk!"
"Make My Day, Punk!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "You Destroyed My Ego, Punk!"
Speech Patterns....: Says "Punk" a lot
Facial Expressions.: Wins => moon eyes, and a smile.
Loses => enlarged eyes, and a big shock looked
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
h) Name...............: Stefany
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $12,000
Bet Range..........: $100-$1,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "How Are Ya?"
"Go NorthEast And Beat Harry."
"Of Coucre I Play." (Spelling Error In Game)
Post-Game Talk.....: "Never Again!"
Speech Patterns....: Says "How Dare You!" When She Loses
Facial Expressions.: Wins => wide open eyes, and big smile
Loses => wide open eyes, and elongated mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
i) Name...............: Lloyd
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $12,000
Bet Range..........: $100-$1,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "See You Around!"
"Come Back After You Beat Ted!"
"Oh, You Want To Try Me, Huh? Ha, Ha, Ha!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "You're In My Way!"
Speech Patterns....: Loves To Taunt With "There You Go."
Facial Expressions.: Wins => gives the eyeball, and sticks out tongue
Loses => stares at you, and has open mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
j) Name...............: Whitney
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $18,000
Bet Range..........: $200-$2,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "Not Now, Baby!"
"Beat Lloyd, Baby
"Let's Play, Baby!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "No More, Baby!"
Speech Patterns....: Says "Baby" a lot
Facial Expressions.: Wins => moon eyes, and huge smile
Loses => small eyes, and straight lined mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: Whitney Barely Shows Her True Feeling.
k) Name...............: Jack
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $70,000
Bet Range..........: $500-$5,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "I'm Cool, Pal"
" Quench Your Thirst And Beat Whitney!"
"Yeah..."
Post-Game Talk.....: "I'm Through With You."
Speech Patterns....: Says "Cool" and "Pal" A Lot
Facial Expressions.: Wins => arched eye, and smirk
Loses => bug eye, and wide open mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: You Can't Really Read Jack's Face.
l) Name...............: Clyde
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $50,000
Bet Range..........: $100-$1,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "I'm Tough!"
"Play With Stefany Near The Bar."
"Ha Ha Ha! C'Mon!"
Post-Game Talk.....: " I Ain't Tough Anymore..."
Speech Patterns....: Says "Tough" A Lot
Facial Expressions.: Win => moon eyes, and huge smile
Loses => bug eyed, and toothy grimace
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
m) Name...............: Bo
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $70,000
Bet Range..........: $1,000-$10,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "I'm Pretty."
"Clyde's Table Is In The Middle."
"Let's Play!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "No, Thanks!"
Speech Patterns....: no specific patterns
Facial Expressions.: Win => winks, and smiles
Loses => cross-eyed, and hanging jaw
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
n) Name...............: Pam
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $100,000
Bet Range..........: $1,000-$10,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "Can We Play Later, Honey?"
"Jack Is In The Poker Room, Honey."
"Alright, Honey"
Post-Game Talk.....: "You Look Great, Honey..."
Speech Patterns....: Says "Honey" A Lot.
Facial Expressions.: Win => moon eyes, and a smile
Loses => looks up, and has a pouty look
The Gambler Lowdown: You Can't Rely On Pam's Expression.
o) Name...............: Cindy
Game...............: Poker
Money..............: $400,000
Bet Range..........: $5,000-$50,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "Later, Buddy!"
"Pam Was Looking For You In The Middle."
"Be Ready, Buddy!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "You Beat Me Already, Buddy!"
Speech Patterns....: Says "Buddy" A Lot.
Facial Expressions.: Win => closes eyes, and big smile
Loses => arches eyebrows, and open mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: You Can't Read Cindy's Face At All!
p) Name...............: Bruno
Game...............: Blackjack
Money..............: $250,000
Bet Range..........: $1,000-$10,000
Pre-Game Talk......: "Hey, Dude!"
"Bo's Table Is By The Entrance."
"Ho Ho Ho! Fine!"
Post-Game Talk.....: "You? No More!"
Speech Patterns....: Says "Dude" A Lot.
Facial Expressions.: Win => bug-eyed, and toothy smile.
Loses => bug-eyed, and hanging open mouth
The Gambler Lowdown: None.
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9) the following opponents have been vanquished:
Lisa
$1,000
OOLAQ PPEAM
ZGTBD SULAQ
PPEAM ZGSBS
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Lisa, Joseph
$2,000
QILAQ PPEAM
ZGTBF YTLAQ
PPEAM JGSBY
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha
$3,000
OKKAQ PPEAM
ZGTBS JLLAQ
PPEAM JGJBS
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen
$5,000
ONKAQ PPEAM
ZGTBX TVLAQ
PPEAM GGJBR
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom
$7,000
OBJAQ PPEAM
ZGSBX AHLAQ
PPEAM GGJBZ
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted
$10,000
QPHAQ PPEAM
JGSBE AGLAQ
PPEAM GGJBL
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted, Harry
$18,000
QGDAQ PPEAM
JGJBI GGLAQ
PPEAM GGJBE
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted, Harry, Stefany
$30,000
QOIAQ PPEAM
JGJBA DJLAQ
PPEAM GGJIW
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom,
Ted, Harry, Stefany, Lloyd
$42,000
QMLAE PPEAM
GGJBG APKFX
PPEAM GGJIX
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Beat Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom,
Ted, Harry, Stefany, Lloyd, Whitney
$60,000
QIDAQ PPEAM
GGJBA UVKAQ
PPEAM GWJII
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted,
Harry, Stefany, Lloyd, Whitney, Jack
$130,000
QJKAQ PPEAM
GGJBL YYHAQ
PPEAM GUJIS
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted,
Harry, Stefany, Lloyd, Whitney, Jack, Clyde
$180,000
QHGAQ PPEAM
GGJBH EHGAQ
PPEAM GUJXW
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted, Harry,
Stefany, Lloyd, Whitney, Jack, Clyde, Bo
$250,000
QVRAQ PPEAM
GGJIA WMFAQ
PPEAM GUJXH
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted, Harry,
Stefany, Lloyd, Whitney, Jack, Clyde, Bo, Pam
$350,000
QIFAQ PPEAM
GWJII DNAAQ
PPEAM GUJXE
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Lisa, Joseph, Martha, Stephen, Tom, Ted, Harry, Stefany,
Lloyd, Whitney, Jack, Clyde, Bo, Pam, Cindy
$750,000
QHTSQ PPEAM
GUJIR ROKAQ
PPEAM GUJXA
No more passwords, so you have to beat Bruno to access the final opponent...
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10)KING!!! After winning against the final person left in the casino, you
are magically whisked away to a large mansion, with scary music and
crashing thunder! If this is not corny enough, you must put up with
terrible music when you play him. You and King will both have
$1,000,000, and it is a test of pure Poker skills with the bet range
at a gigantic $10,000-$100,000!!!
King is a guy in a purple hooded robe that has a large black head
ornament with a spade and a large 'K'. All kidding aside, King bets
insane amounts of money at a time ($30,000-$60,000), and always seems to
get a slightly better hand than you. Play him the best you can, and
bet large on hands you think you can win. Also remember that King is not
possible to read, so figuring out what he has is just not possible.
He says things like: "You're Pretty Tough, Casino Kid!"
"I Won This Hand."
"Alright!!"
"I'm Fine."
"Wheew..."
"Hum..."
"Glad You Folded!"
"I Deceived You With My Poker Face!"
"MMM!"
"Now, You're The King Of The Casino!"
When he wins, he gets the Japanese cartoon eyes (upside down frowns).
When he loses, he gets all bug-eyed.
When he says I will bet all I have on the next deal, you get no
choice, he just does it. Sort of unfair, but you likely would have
accepted regardless!
When you win, you get to see the credits, and your award trophy (which is
a Golden Hand holding up a Gold King of Spades, surrounded by Gold
Laurels), and get treated to the credits. CONGRATULATIONS on winning the
game, and I hope you had loads of fun!!!
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-----------------------------------Final Words------------------------------
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11)As is the usual, this walkthrough is copyright property of Brian P.
Sulpher, 2002. The only website, group, person, etc. to have access to
post it is www.gamefaqs.com, www.ign.com, www.retronintendo.com, and
www.honestgamers.com. You must ask for permission before posting this,
as doing so without consent is a violation of international copyright
law.
If you liked it, hated it, have anything to add, then please E-mail me at
[email protected]. You can also contact me through MSN messenger
through the same E-mail address.
Hope you had fun, because I sure have the many times I have played
through this game! Despite some seemingly unfair happenings, remember
that the crads that appear are purely random, despite what some may say!
