Feb 02, 1999       SCANDATA.FAQ       02/02/1999

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1.  Scanner Modifications FAQ:  SCANMODS.FAQ
2.  Scanner Data Decoder FAQ:   SCANDATA.FAQ  <--- This FAQ
3.  Scanner Performance FAQ:    SCANPERF.FAQ
4.  Scanner S-Meter FAQ:        SCANSMTR.FAQ
5.  Scanner Radios FAQ:         SCANRADS.FAQ
6.  4-Level FSK Decoder FAQ:       4LFSK.FAQ
7.  Administrative FAQ:            ADMIN.FAQ

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Bill Cheek's Scanner Data Decoding
Frequently Asked Questions File
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Contents
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01: What is a 'Discriminator Output' and 'baseband audio'?
02: How can I find the Discriminator Output in my scanner?
03: How do I connect to the Discriminator Output?
04: How do I build or acquire a SIMPLE decoder interface?
05: How do I build or acquire a BETTER decoder interface?
06: So how do I decode digital data from the airwaves?
07: How can I decode CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF from the airwaves?
08: Is it possible to "TrunkTrack" without a TrunkTracker?
09: What if I don't want to build my own Data Decoder Interface?

Questions and Answers

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01: What is a 'Discriminator Output' and 'baseband audio'?

There is a growing interest in tapping the baseband audio
out of various scanners for decoding of a variety of
esoteric signals, including CTCSS, SCA, FSK, RTTY, FAX,
Pager data, and trunked system control data, etc.

By and large, such signals cannot be taken from TAPE REC
jacks, headphone jacks, and EXT SPEAKER jacks because of the
voice-band filters that are between the signal source and
these output jacks.

Therefore, it is necessary to tap the wider "baseband audio"
directly at the output of the NFM discriminator chip in your
scanner. This is the first step to successful data decoding
from the airwaves.


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02: How can I find the Discriminator Output in my scanner?

Table 1 shows a list of scanners, the discriminator chip(s)
used in the scanner, circuit symbols of those chips, and the
baseband audio (discriminator output) pin.

If your scanner isn't listed in Table 1, then refer to Table
2 to find its discriminator chip. The chips listed in Table
2 are all known Discriminators used in scanners and wide
coverage receivers.

Between Tables 1 and 2, you should be able to find the NFM
discriminator and its output pin for any reasonably modern
scanner.

Corrections and  additions to these lists are requested. See
my email and other addresses at the end of this file.

TABLE 1: SCANNER NFM DISCRIMINATOR CHIPS & PINS
Updated  01/28/99

               DISCR/DET        CKT     BASEBAND
SCANNER         CHIP TYPE       SYMBOL   AUDIO PIN
==============  ==============  =======  =========
unknown         MPS5071         n/a        9
AR-1000         TA-7787AF       IC-4       9
AR-2002         MC-3357P        IC-4       9
AR-2500         TA-7761P        IC-13      9
AR-3000         MC-3357P        ?          9
AR-800          MC-3361N        IC-200     9
AR-900          MC-3361N        IC-201     9
AR-950          MC-3361N        IC-201     9
AR-8000 NFM     TK10489M or-85M U1        11
AR-8000 WFM/AM  TA7792F         U3         8
BC-80XLT        MC3361B0        IC-101     9
BC-100XL        MC-3359P        IC-1      10
BC-100XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401    11
BC-140XLT       MC-3359P        IC-1      10 *
BC-200XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401    11
BC-205XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401    11
BC-235XLT       MC3361CDR2      IC-2       9
BC-250          ?               IC-3       9
BC-2500XLT      TK-10930VTL     IC-201    12-FM  13-AM
BC-3000 NFM/AM  TK-10930V       IC-202    12-NFM 13-AM
BC-3000 WFM     TK-10489M       IC-203    11
BC-350A         NJM-3359D-A     IC-3      10
BC-400XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-1      10
BC-560XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-1      10
BC-700A         NJM-3359D-A     IC-3      10
BC-760XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-2      10
BC-800XLT       MC-3359P        IC-1      10
BC-235XLT       MC3361CDR2      IC-2       9 *
BC-8500XLT      MC-3361BP       IC-9       9
BC-855XLT       TK-10421M-2     IC-401    11
BC-890XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-3      10
BC-895XLT       MC13371         IC-3       9 *
BC-950XLT       NJM-3359D-A     IC-2      10
BC-9000XLT      MC3361B0        IC-8       9
BC-9000XLT WFM  TK10489-MTL     IC-9      11
BC-9000XLT AM   LA1600A         IC7        8 or 9 (?)
BCT-7           MC3361BD        IC-2       9
HX-1000         TK-10420        U-201      9
ICF-SC1PC       TA3116FN        IC-401     9
ICF-SC1         TA3116FN        IC-401     9 *
Icom IC-2SRA    MC-3372          ?         9 *
Icom R-1 NFM    TK-10487  DET-A IC-1      11
Icom R-1 WFM    TA-7787AF DET-B IC-1       9
Icom R7100      Said to be "top of R230 on main PCB"  *
MR-8100         NJM-3359D-A     IC-3      10
MX-5000         MC-3357P        IC-4       9
MX-7000         MC-3357P        IC-4       9
PRO-2002        MC-3357P        IC-101     9
PRO-2003        MC-3357P        IC-104     9
PRO-2004 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2       9 (TP4)
PRO-2004 WFM    KB4419A         IC-1       6 (TP3)
PRO-2005 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2       9 (TP2)
PRO-2005 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
PRO-2006 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2       9 (TP2)
PRO-2006 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
PRO-2011        TK-10420        IC-1       9
PRO-2020        MC-3357P        IC-101     9
PRO-2021        TK-10420        IC-2       9
PRO-2022        MC-3361N        IC-1       9
PRO-2023        NJM-3359D-A       ?       10
PRO-2024        MC-3361N        IC-2       9
PRO-2025        NJM-3359D-A     IC-1      10
PRO-2026        NJM-3359D-A     IC-7      10
PRO-2027        MC-3361N        IC-2       9
PRO-2028        NJM-3359D-A     IC-2      10
PRO-2030        NJM-3359D-A     IC-3      10
PRO-2032        MC-3361         IC-2       9 (TP5)
PRO-2035 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2       9 (TP2)
PRO-2035 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
PRO-2040        MC3361BP        IC-2       9
PRO-2041        MC3361N         IC-301     9  *
PRO-2042 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2       9 (TP2)
PRO-2042 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
PRO-2050        MC3361CDR2      IC-2       9  *
PRO-23          MC-3361BD       IC-1       9
PRO-24          MC3361BP        IC-2       9 *
PRO-26 NFM/AM   TK-10930V       IC-14     12-NFM 13-AM
PRO-26 WFM      TK-10489M       IC-16     11
PRO-31          TK-10420        IC-1       9
PRO-32          TK-10420        IC-101     9
PRO-34          TK-10420        IC-101     9
PRO-35          TK-10421M-2     IC-401    11
PRO-36          TK-10420        IC-101     9
PRO-37          TK-10420        IC-101     9 (TP103)
PRO-38          MC-3359P        IC-1      10
PRO-39          MC-3361N        IC-201     9
PRO-41          MC-3359P        IC-1      10
PRO-42          MC-3361N        IC-2       9
PRO-43          TK-10427/-10420 IC-301     9
PRO-44          MC-3361N        IC-201     9
PRO-46          TK-10421M-3LT   IC-401    11
PRO-49          MC3361BP        IC-2       9
PRO-51          MC-3361BD       IC-1       9
PRO-60          ?               IC-301     9
PRO-62          KA3361          IC-301     9  *
PRO-64          MC3361N         IC-301     9
PRO-66          MC3361N         IC-2       9 (TP3) *
PRO-90          MC3361CDR2      IC-2       9
R-1600          NJM-3359D-A     IC-2      10
R-4030          TK-10421M-2     IC-401    11
SC1PC           TA3116FN        IC-401     9
SC1             TA3116FN        IC-401     9 *
SR-15           TK-10421D-2     IC-1       9
StandardCCR708A TK-10420D       Q602       9 *
TurboScan 2     3130-6056-502   U-201     10 or 16
WiNRADiO  NFM   MC-3372D        U2         9 TP20
WiNRADiO AM/WFM TA-7640AP       U5         9 TP29
WiNRADiO  SSB   LM324M          U6         1
Yaesu FRG-9600  MC-3357P        ?          9 *
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* Not personally verified by me


    TABLE 2
DISCRIM     OUTPUT
CHIP         PIN
=========   ======
KA3361         9
MC13371        9
MC3357P        9
MC3359P       10
MC3361         9
MC3372D        9
MPS5071        9
NJM3359DA     10
TA3116FN       9
TA7640AP       9
TA7761P        9
TA7787AF       9
TA7792F        8
TK10420        9
TK10421D       9
TK10421M      11
TK10427        9
TK10485M      11
TK10487       11
TK10489M      11
TK10930V      12
CXA1111N      21 AM/WFM Only
HA12413        9 WFM Only
KA2243N        9 WFM Only
KB4419A        6 WFM Only

Once you locate the discriminator in your scanner, you have
to make its output conveniently available on the exterior
chassis, much like a headphone or tape recorder jack.

Figure 1 below shows how to determine the pin numbering
system for most integrated circuits.  Looking at the marking
side of the chip, there is either a notch or nook at one
end, and/or an embedded "dot" off to one side at one end.
The notch, nook, or dot signifies the end that starts with
Pin #1 and ends with whatever the highest numbered pin
happens to be.  Most IC's have 8, 14, 16, or 18 pins.

                 FIGURE 1
        TYPICAL NFM IC CHIP PINOUT
                                               NFM DISCR
         16 15 14 13 12 11 10  9    10uF/16v   Baseband
          |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |----+[|------> Audio Out
        +------------------------+
        |                        |   /-------> Ground
        |        TOP VIEW        |   |
 Notch  \          LABEL         |   |
        /  Dot     SIDE          |   ^
        | O                      | Scanner
        |                        |  Ground
        +------------------------+
          |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8

NOTE: Figure 1 shows the baseband audio tap on Pin 9,
     though the pin number will vary from one chip
     to the next.


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03:  How do I connect to the Discriminator Output?

HOOKUP PROCEDURE
================

If you need the raw NFM Discriminator baseband audio signal
for external purposes, the best way to access it is via a
jack installed in a convenient, unobtrusive location on the
scanner. Use Figure 1 as a general guide.

1A  BASE SCANNERS: Install an RCA or other jack in a desired
   place on the scanner's external case, typically the rear
   panel.

1B  HANDHELD SCANNERS: If you can find the space, use a
   standard monaural 1/8" phone jack or a 3/32" mini phone
   jack.  Some scanners are so cramped inside that even
   these won't fit. In that case a strip of 3 pinline
   sockets can be melted into the plastic case and wires
   soldered to the inside protrusions.

   The middle pinline socket is not connected to anything;
   it's just there as strength and support for the pinline
   plug you make, with the shield ground soldered to one
   end and the audio- center soldered to the other end:

   GND---o o o---NFM DSCR (audio)

   "Break-apart" pinline plugs/sockets are available from
   Mouser, DigiKey, and Hosfelt.

   Digi-Key:  p/n A208-ND          (800) 344-4539
   Hosfelt:   p/n 21-274           (800) 524-6464
   Mouser:    p/n 151-5520/5530    (800) 346-6873

   These little puppies are good for a lot of hacker needs,
   so get a supply!

2.  Connect the shell or outer frame part of the jack to
   scanner chassis ground.  (Use one end socket for pinline
   connections)

3.  Connect the (+) leg of a 10-uF tantalum capacitor (Radio
   Shack #272-1436) to the Discriminator output Pin. (Capacitor
   should be tantalum, but can vary in value from 2.2-uF to
   10-uF at a voltage rating of 16-35 vdc.)

4.  Connect the center conductor of a shielded coax (RG-174,
   etc) or shielded mic cable to the (-) leg of the
   capacitor. NOTE: if the distance from the NFM tap to the
   jack is less than 3", then a single unshielded hookup
   wire will do fine.

5.  Connect the shield of the cable at this end to a nearby
   PCB ground trace or spot.

6.  Connect the center conductor of the other end of this
   cable (or single hookup wire) to the center or hot lug
   of the jack.

7.  Connect the shield of the cable at that end to the
   ground lug of the jack.

8.  Fabricate or buy a shielded patch cable with one end to
   mate with the new jack on the rear of the scanner at
   that end....and the other end to mate with whatever jack
   is on the tape recorder, processor, decoder, or whatever
   device is to be connected at the other end.

Now you are ready to connect a data decoder interface to the
baseband audio output jack. See Figure 1 above.

=================================================================
04: How do I build or acquire a simple decoder interface circuit?

If you want to decode trunk control, MDT, some pager, fax and/or
other digital signals, you will need to build or buy a simple
2-Level FSK Interface to go between the NFM Discriminator/
Baseband Audio of the scanner and a standard PC serial port.

See Question #5 for a more sophisticated 4-Level FSK Interface.

  If you are not capable of building your own, or if you
  don't have the time to mess with it, I can supply either
  a Kit of all essential parts and detailed instructions,
  and you build it yourself, OR I can supply an  assembled/
  tested Decoder Interface, built inside a DB-25 shell and
  connector with a 3 ft shielded cable terminated with an
  RCA plug.  See Question #9 for details.

The DB-25 shell connects directly to a DB-25 comport on the
PC, or, if your comports are DB-9's, you can get a
DB25-to-DB9 adapter for it. You should, however, be able to
make your own following the below instructions.

This is a tried and true Data Interface circuit that's good
for everything we've tried, including a wide variety of
scanners. External power is not required.  This circuit
draws its power from the comport. It is similar to the
"Hamcom" and "data slicer" interfaces, but is optimized for
more scanners and more applications.

2-LEVEL DATA DECODER INTERFACE SCHEMATIC DIAGRAM
Copyright (c) 1998 Bill Cheek  <Revised 12/04/98>

              Note 4                               COM2
                                                 Computer
                                                Serial Port
Scanner  |<------circuit----------------->|      DB25    DB9
                                                ====    ===
Note                      o----o--|<--------o----->20 DTR  4
5     Note 1             |    | 1N4148     |
NFM    10-uF         |\   |    o--|<--------|--o--> 4 RTS  7
>-----+|[------o----|2 \ |    |            |  |
DSCR            |    |    \    o--+|[-->>>  |  |   Note 9
       100k    |    |LM  7 \     10-uF     |  |
>--o--/\/\/----o    |741  6 >----------o---|--|--> 5 CTS  8
GND |                |      /           |   |  |
   o--/\/\/--o------|3  4/ Note 2      |   |  |
   |   3.3k  |      |  / |             |   |  |
   | Note 8  |      |/   |    Note 3   |   |  |
   |         o-----------|----/\/\/----o   |  |
   |                     |     100k        |  |
   |                     |                 |  |
   o---------------------|-----------------|--|--> 7 Gnd  5
   |                     |                 |  |
   |                     o-------->|-------o  | o-<2 TxD  3
   |            10-uF    |      1N4148        | |
   o-------------+|[-----o-------->|----------o |
   |                                            |
   |      Circuit                               |
   o--->>>Ground     o--------------------------o
   |                 |
- -|- - - - - - - - -|- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
   |   o-------------o
   |   |
   |   |      Optional for TrunkFollower
   |   |      Control of a second scanner
   ^   ^       (See Note 10 and Q&A #8)
 Gnd  RxD
   COM3
 or other
 port for Trunk
 Follower control

LEGEND:

    |
  --o-- = soldered connection/junction

   --o  = turn of the trace in the drawing
     |

  --|-- = crossover (no connection)
    +|[ = capacitor, polarized (note the +)
     >| = diode (anode->|-cathode)
     |< = diode (cathode-|<-anode)
-/\/\/- = resistor
  -->>> = ground

NOTES:
1.  Use tantalum capacitors, +|[ polarity as shown

2.  Radio Shack's LM-741 op-amp  works fine. Others might not!

3.  Use 1/4 or 1/8 watt resistors to conserve space

4.  Build circuit on a trimmed and fitted piece of perf
    board inside a DB-25 shell for max efficiency and space
    savings. DB-25 connects to PC's comport and a shielded
    cable from the scanner goes to the input; shield is
    ground and center is audio.

    Hi-res laser printed Instruction Sets available with precise
    schematics, drawings, perfboard layout, graphics, wiring,
    and solder points. Inquire:  [email protected]  or see:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek/decode.htm

5.  Many handheld scanners have no space to install a phone
    jack for the NFM Discriminator Output.  For such tight
    spaces a strip of 3 pinline sockets can be melted into
    the plastic case and wires soldered to the inside
    protrusions. The middle pinline socket is not connected
    to anything; it's just there as strength and support
    for the pinline plug you make, with the shield ground
    soldered to one end and the audio-center soldered to
    the other end:

    GND---o o o---NFM DSCR (audio)

6.  For base scanners, install a female RCA jack on rear
    panel.

7.  For handheld scanners where there is space, use a 3/32"
    mini or a 1/8" standard monaural phone plug.

8.  3.3k is an optimized value for most scanners.  If the
    baseband audio output measures less than 0.350-V AC, with a
    voltmeter set to AC-volts at a 1v range, you should decrease
    the 3.3k resistor to 2.2k, or even 1k if if the measurement
    is under 0.250v AC.

    I measured 0.150v AC out of the baseband audio tap in a
    Sony ICF-SC1PC handheld scanner. The required resistor
    from U1 Pin 3 to ground worked out to 1k.

    The NFM baseband audio signal of most scanners should
    show 0.400v AC or higher, in which case the 3.3k resistor
    is just right.

9.  Connect the interface to a comport on the PC.  Plug the
    input cable in to the scanner's NFM Discriminator
    Output Jack.  Tune to a desired signal and run the
    decoder software of your choice.

10.  If you are interested in using the "data decode"
    scanner to control or "TrunkFollow" a second scanner,
    then run a pair of wires off the Data Decoder Interface
    from unused TxD (Pin 2) and Ground (Pin 7) out the back
    of the circuit. This pair of wires will feed the RxD
    and Ground pins of another COMport on the PC.


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05: How do I build or acquire a BETTER decoder interface?

First, understand that you may not need or want a "better"
decoder interface.  The 2-Level Data Decoder Interface given
just above is ample for most everything except "FLEX" and
ReFLEX" pager signals.  There may be other exceptions, but
they are few and far between.  In most cases, the simpler
2-Level FSK Data Decoder Interface will be all you need.

Secondly, understand that the more sophisticated 4-Level
FSK Data Decoder Interface cannot and does not replace the
simpler 2-Level version.  If you want the 4-Level interface,
that's fine, but you'll need the 2-Level, too.

  If you are not capable of building your own, or if you
  don't have the time to mess with it, I can supply either
  a Kit of all essential parts and detailed instructions,
  and you build it yourself,

  OR

  I can supply an  assembled/ tested 4-Level Data Decoder
  Interface, built inside a project box with a DB-9 output
  jack on one end and an RCA jack on the other end.  You
  will need to provide your own shielded cable terminated
  with an RCA plug on one end to mate to the box and
  whatever connector on the other end to connect to the NFM
  Discriminator Baseband Audio Output on your scanner.

  You will also need to provide a shielded straight-thru
  9-cond serial cable with a male DB9 plug on one end to
  mate to the 4LFSKDDI box and whatever connector on the
  other end to mate to the chosen PC serial port.

  You may also have to provide your own +/- dual polarity
  power supply. (Two 9v batteries can suffice.) See
  Question #9 for more details.

I'm not sure yet how to present the 4-Level FSK Data Decoder
Interface circuit as a plain ASCII schematic like shown above
for the simpler 2LFSKDDI circuit.  So for now, I have to refer
you to the Web Sites that support this circuit with graphics,
text, and/or software support.  You should research these sites:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/6063/
http://www.qsl.net/pa3eik/4lev_fsk.htm
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/PINFO.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/IINFO.HTM
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/POCFLEX.ZIP
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/9339/
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/8916/4levelm.gif

I now have available a detailed Instruction Set on the
4LFSKDDI for those who find the above sites a little too
technical to handle. I can also provide Kits of essential
parts, less enclosure and power supply.  See Q&A #9.

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06: So how do I decode digital data from the airwaves?

   First, you tap the Discriminator Output in your scanner.
   Then build the desired Data Decoder Interface and connect
   it to the Discriminator Output. Then connect the other
   side of the Decoder Interface to a com/serial port on your
   PC. Lastly, run the software that decodes the particular
   type of signal that you want to decode.

   In general, it takes different software for different
   kinds of signals, and I can't possibly cover them all
   here.  I will suggest that you start out with a free
   program called TRUNKER that decodes the control data of
   Motorola trunking systems.  This is one of the easiest
   to set up and get working; therefore, it makes a good
   test "platform" to prove up all your work before you
   venture into bigger and better things.  Motorola trunk
   systems are fairly common now.

   TRUNKER and a good set of documentation and limited
   support for it can be found at the following Web Sites:

   http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1060/beta.htm

   or

   http://web2.airmail.net/lblant1/dfw/digital.htm

   Apparently it is possible to decode certain kinds of data
   from the airwaves without a decoder interface - just
   software!  For info on decoding MDT signals with nothing
   more than a Windows PC and a sound card, check out:

   http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Facility/7646/


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07: How can I decode CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF from the airwaves?

   That is strictly up to specialized hardware and/or
   software that kind of goes beyond the scope of this FAQ.
   Lots of software is out and about that will do it, and
   there are even possibilities for "roll your own"
   hardware decoders.

   But the first thing you'll need is the "baseband audio"
   output that is described in Questions/Answers #1-3
   above. The Data Decoder Interface described in Q/A #4 is
   good ONLY for trunking and pager types of data; not
   CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF, unfortunately.

   In fact, it takes specialized hardware and/or software
   to decode each of CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF; and each is as
   different as night and day.

   Some scanners come equipped for CTCSS decoding, but most
   do not. And none come equipped for DPL or DTMF that I
   know of.

   For more information about retrofitting CTCSS and DPL
   decoders to your scanner, contact:

      Communications Specialists, Inc.
      426 West Taft Avenue
      Orange, CA 92865-4296
      (800) 854-0547  Fax (800) 850-0547
      (714) 998-3021  Fax (714) 974-3420
      WEB:  http://www.com-spec.com/

   For a low-cost "roll-your-own" DTMF Decoder (hardware)
   there is a nice project done up in great detail in one
   of the back issues of the monthly WORLD SCANNER REPORT
   newsletter, V3N10. Backissues are always available at a
   nominal cost.  See:

   ftp://ftp.cts.com/pub/bcheek/products/prodinfo.zip

   There are other hardware and software solutions for
   decoding DTMF that I may include here later as I get the
   information verified and added.

   The WiNRADiO Digital Suite is awesomely capable of
   decoding CTCSS and DTMF.  See:  http://www.winradio.com

   For scanners in general, though, it all starts with a
   tap to the "baseband audio" point, so read over Q&A 1-3
   above for the details.


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08: Is it possible to "TrunkTrack" without a TrunkTracker?

   It didn't used to be, but times do change and YES! It is
   now possible to track the trunks without a 'real'
   TrunkTracker Scanner, and better, for that matter!!!

   Like the other subjects in this FAQ, it all begins with
   a Data Decoder Interface. See Q&A #4 and Note 10 in that
   answer for the tiny extra addition you need to make to
   the Decoder Interface.

   Next, you need a PRO-2004, PRO-2005, or PRO-2006
   scanner, although we hope to add other scanners to the
   list in due time.  For now, it's one of those three.

     NOTE: It is possible to track the trunks with a
           AR-8000 and perhaps with one of the Opto
           Interfaces, but these are specialized situations
           where detailed info must be found elsewhere.

   Then you need a CE-232 Scanner/Computer Interface (or
   its predecessor, the HB-232). You will also need the
   hot, new Windows program for the CE/HB-232 called
   Pro-Turbo.

   Lastly, you need one fairly modern computer, Pentium 133
   or better, for the easiest way to track the trunks, but
   there is another way almost as easy, if you have two
   computers, one a 486DX2/66 or better and the other, a
   PC-386 or better.

   There are other requirements, too, but the above are the
   main ones.  It is beyond the scope of this FAQ to spell
   out all the details, but the V8N9 issue of the monthly
   World Scanner Report tells it all.  You can order this
   or any other back issue of the World Scanner Report
   since Jan-91, including 6-mo and 1-yr subscriptions.

   You can also download a more detailed text file on
   TrunkFollowing with the PRO-2004/5/6 from my FTP site at:

   ftp://ftp.cts.com/pub/bcheek/ce-232/trnkscan.txt

   For more information on the Pro-Turbo software for the
   HB/CE-232, contact:

   Paul E. Turton
   RR # 3; Wainfleet, Ontario Canada L0S 1V0
   E-mail:  [email protected]  or  [email protected]
   Web:     http://www.iaw.on.ca/~jabba/pro-turbo.htm

   For more information on the CE-232 Interface, you can
   download a file called PRODINFO.ZIP from:

   ftp://ftp.cts.com/pub/bcheek/products

   or you can view and download all the individual files
   from the \CE-232 directory.  Or, you can ask for it as
   an e-mail file attachment from:  [email protected]

   or see the information in my signature box below.

   But yes, it is now possible to track the trunks without
   a TrunkTracker scanner, and do it better than any of the
   "real" TrunkTracker scanners!  The cost can be a lot
   less than the cost of a real TrunkTracker, too. The cost
   largely depends on what you already have, or can
   scrounge up, but at worst, it's well within the budget
   of many scannists.


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09: What if I don't want to build my own Data Decoder Interface?

   See further below if you are intested in a 4-Level Data
   Decoder Interface.  First is info on the 2LFSKDDI:

   2LFSKDDI
   ========

   There isn't much of a technical obstacle to "rolling your
   own 2-Level Data Decoder Interface, but if lack of time,
   tools, or access to the parts is an obstacle, then you can
   acquire one in either of two ways:

   NOTE:  We can supply the 2LFSKDDI detailed Instruction Set
          alone for $5, ppd, USA and $7, ppd, foreign.

   1.  Kit of essential parts (you build it):  $15 + $8 S&H

       Includes:
       3 ea  Capacitor; tantalum; 10-uF/16v:
       1 ea  D-sub Plastic Hood/shell; DB25
       1 ea  DB25 connector; female; solder pin
       2 ea  Resistor; 100-k; 1/4-watt
       1 ea  Resistor; 3.3-k; 1/4-watt
       4 ea  Diode; silicon; 1N4148
       1 ea  Op-amp; LM741CN; 8-pin DIP
       1 ea  Perfboard; pre-cut, notched, trimmed to size
       1 ea  Shielded cable; 3-ft; w/RCA plug
       1 ea  Detailed printed instruction set, complete with
              graphics, photos, tables, and "what if's"...
       1 ea  3.5" floppy disk w/shareware & freeware decoder
              programs and utilities.

       Optional upgrade or add-on items:

    *  A. Shielded cable; 6-ft; w/RCA plug        + $2.00
    *  B. Shielded cable; 12-ft; w/RCA plug       + $4.00
       C. Port Adapter; DB25 male-to-DB9 female   + $7.50
          (adapts 25-pin Interface to 9-pin comport)

    *  Instead of the standard 3-ft cable w/RCA plug

-=OR=-

   2.  Assembled/tested 2-L Decoder Interface     $40 + $8 S&H

       Includes:
       1 ea  Data Decoder Interface built into a DB25 shell
              with standard 3-ft shielded cable w/RCA plug.
       1 ea  Detailed printed instruction set, complete with
              graphics, photos, tables, and "what if's"...
       1 ea  3.5" floppy disk w/shareware & freeware decoder
              programs and utilities.

       Optional upgrade or add-on items:

       A. Built with  6-ft shielded cable and RCA plug  + $2.00
       B. Built with 12-ft shielded cable and RCA plug  + $4.00
       C. Port Adapter; DB25 male-to-DB9 female         + $7.50
          (adapts 25-pin Interface to 9-pin comport)
       D. Custom enhancements/designs per your specs    +$10/up


   4LFSKDDI
   ========

   CAVEAT:  It may be illegal to decode certain 4LFSK signals.
            You must determine that for your self and cease
            interest in the subject if not legal in your area.

   If you are intested in a 4-Level FSK Data Decoder Interface
   we have a detailed Instruction Set ready to go, as well as a
   Kit of Essential parts, less enclosure and power supply.

   Assembled and Tested units are not ready yet, but.....I may
   have available some built/tested prototype units that have
   been proved fit for consumption.

   One or more of the following may be available:

   1.  Instruction Set Only - you build from it.
       8-pages of hi-res laser printed text, charts,
       photos, drawings, and detailed, hand-holding
       guidance:   Price: $5, ppd, USA;  $7, ppd, foreign

   2.  Kit of Essential Parts, plus detailed Instruction Set
       from (1) above, less enclosure and power supply. See my
       4LFSK.FAQ file for details, or the following web site:

       http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek/4lfsk.txt

       Price: $20 + $8 S&H, USA;  $20 + $15 S&H foreign

   3.  Kit of Essential Parts, incl power supply.    Price: TBA
   4.  Assembled/Tested 4LFSKDDI, less power supply. Price: TBA
   5.  Assembled/Tested 4LFSKDDI, incl power supply. Price: TBA


   TO ORDER:  Use e-mail, fax, or postal mail per the
              information in my signature box below. MC/VISA or
              M.O. preferred. Personal and company checks okay,
              but shipment delayed until bank clearance. No
              COD's and no shipments to PO Boxes or mail drops.
              Alaska, Hawaii and foreign shipping extra.

      TERMS:  All sales are final; no returns-no refunds. 30-day
              Performance Warranty on the Assembled/ Tested
              Decoder Interface is strictly limited to Motorola
              SmartNet trunked data signals using TRUNKER.EXE
              despite that it will work on many other kinds of
              data, too. We just can't support it all.  Repair
              or replacement at our option during that 30-day
              period. No warranty on Kits.

              Not responsible/liable for illegal use of this
              information and/or these products; nor for any
              consequences thereof. You must determine
              lawfulness of these products for your applications
              and region and not use them, if illegal.

              Use of this information and/or these products is
              100% exclusively at your own risk.

              You must determine suitability and fitness of
              purpose of these products to your needs.  I will
              not accept responsibility or liability for any
              damage or loss that results from use of these
              products, nor for damage or loss that results from
              connecting these devices to a scanner and/or a
              computer.

              You must determine all risks and accept all
              consequences of any damage to hardware and/or data
              stored in the computer.

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That's it for now.  I will keep this FAQ updated.  If you
see things that need to be added to it, by all means, let me
know. If this FAQ fails to address your question(s), then
hit me with 'em again, but be specific.  And be detailed
with symptoms and observations if you need tech support on
mods or troubleshooting and diagnosis.  Use e-mail.

Copyrighted (c) 1999 (All rights reserved) Revised 02/02/99

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