Thank you for the specific and positive feedback Ozzie. It's
  very helpful to know that because it helped me see what the
  problem is in debates on this topic: Most are like a ping pong
  game; back and forth, or a tug of war against sides.

  But this wasn't a debate but rather a genuine discussion; a rare
  thing indeed smile emoticon Once people are committed to discuss
  rather than debate, they can mutually find pathways to move away
  from the typical binary "opposition" of debate and, while not
  always reaching definitive conclusions, at least can see an open
  field of possibilities beyond the binary.