*Everybody is Correct*

  A good friend send a message on Facebook regarding some of the
  fundamental flaws of Mathematics. He wanted my opinion. He got
  far more than he bargained for... and I said more than I
  expected to say. I share it with you. It may be confusing right
  now, but once I am finished pulling *it* all together, this will
  all be very simple and instantly understandable to a
  preschooler. on up. It's only a tiny part of it, compressed and
  overexplained and messy.

  My thoughts:

  Mathematics is a useful, beautiful, expressive language. I do
  not understand it, beyond what I learned up through 9th or 10th
  grade, and a smattering of various understandings I've picked up
  since that point to the present time.

  Mathematics can describe details and simplifies so many
  processes and I am quite grateful for those who explore the
  depths of its possibilities. I use their work and stand on the
  shoulders of giants, whose shoes I may never fill.

  BUT:

  ALSO:

  THIS:

  There are concepts and truths that are difficult to express in
  ANY language.

  Mathematics, Spoken Languages, Programming, Written language,
  ''flat'' art, 3D art, Science, sRelationships, Music...

  There is a ''something'' that many try to express in every
  language.

  And it is a difficult something to express in any language.

  I don't believe that it is impossible. That is my assumption:
  That, indeed, nothing is impossible. Well, not true. Nothing is
  both possible AND impossible.

  But quickly back to math:

  There is a basic flaw in most current mathematics, although it
  is captured in other languages:

  The flaws are these:

  We assume that WE are not included in our observations.

  It is not necessary to have a quantum mysticism about it, which
  is something I had for many years - the allure of the Focal
  Point, where past meets future and in meets out.

  Even when we do include ourselves, we do it with the assumption
  that we are not connected to all things. This is where I start
  to sound mystic but I don't intend to. It is quite, I believe,
  literal.

  Another flaw is the attempt to digitize everything. Just because
  some things can be quantized, (broken into packets) - it is
  believed that ALL things can be quantized. But try turning
  simple fractions into decimal numbers and the flat becomes
  quickly apparent. Turning roundness (PI) into a straight line is
  VERY useful but, will forever be inaccurate.

  Because a point and a line are impossible things. Which is
  another one of my conclusions and assumptions about the basis of
  reality.

  They are all loops where the beginnings and ends are forever
  connective, moving and alive.

  They must be entered into the calculations for mathematics to
  ultimately be successful in describing all things.

  Excess comfort with paradoxes. Too much detail and not enough
  broadness. And too much broadness without enough detail to feed
  the broad conclusions. Sets that have fixed columns instead of
  columns that are as flexible as rows are.

  To describe reality properly, our tools are not robust enough
  and our rules are too complex but also too simple.

  The truth is hidden in the gaps... in the things we avoid. In
  the things we are NOT looking at.

  There is a need both both: the need for detailed discovery but
  also a need for a broadness that is not dismissive of religion
  or other aspects of the human experience.

  An over dependance on LOGIC which was invented several THOUSAND
  years ago.

  We are an extension of the ancient Greek culture.

  We need more Plato.

  We followed the right guy for several thousand years but now we
  need more Plato.

  Pattern matching is the key. Spot the differences with calm
  awareness will solve many problems.

  As you can see, I have a book in me.

  And a lot to say.

  In short, Ahmad:

  Everybody is correct.

  -Kenneth Udut, 06-23-2013 11:34pm

  PS by the time I am done, this will all be much more complete
  and much simpler. I have much more work to do, but this is a
  small sampling of the direction I am going in, right or wrong or
  both or neither or n/a or all of the above.