It's part-of but it's incomplete. If it remains incomplete for
the foreseeable future, it's not Science yet. If it's not
Science yet, what is it? It needs another category. Incomplete
is no longer enough. Maybe metaphysics is the wrong category.
But if it's going to be considered Science, the caveats need to
be spelled out very very clearly, otherwise OTHER fields than
just physics will take advantage of this way of thinking as well
and trust in Science will be lost. The trust is one of its
strongest factors. Why was it important for this discussion to
take place? To gather philosophers and theoretical physicists
together into a three-day conference? It's not without a reason.
== Yes, that's the danger that Science faces at present. It's at
a point where Science becomes Theology. It will lost the public
trust... and funding.. if that happens. === Physics and
metaphysics have always been married together. Age of Reason
they began to split. Improvements in the Scientific method.
Modern Science was once Natural Philosophy. Modern science is a
branch of philosophy. Metaphysics is a branch of philosophy.
During the logical positivist era, it seemed possible that, with
reason combine with scientific methodologies, metaphysics could
be tossed into the dustbin. But as we reach areas that go beyond
verification, Physics - and the Science family it is a part of,
needs to temporarily rejoin its parent Philosophy for a short
time in order to regroup and restructure in some way. Then it
can return to business-as-usual. == We need to then discuss the
physical causes of mathematics. That leads us into cognitive
science and the physics of that. It's not turtles all the way
down perhaps, but there are always deeper levels to go. == Well,
I don't know if they're bunk or not, but I'll definitely agree
that they don't belong in Physics as it currently stands. Now we
just have to tell the whole Science channel and most of the
Science popularizers that. ==