Religion doesn't do anything. Neither does Science. Neither does
Politics. Neither does Economics. Neither does Sociology.
Neither does Psychology. People do. Diplomacy is what fixes
things, regardless of a people's politics, religions, economics,
whatever. -- Motivation is a complicated issue Michael. It's not
just "belief". Too simplistic. People are far more like you and
me everywhere you go. There's many concerns beyond belief in
systems. -- I'm not trying anything. I'm just stating the hard
facts of things. Throughout history, diplomacy between nations
and uneasy peaces are the solution. Period. Do you believe that
everything magically gets better once you remove people of their
beliefs? Beliefs are part of our cognitive structure. There's no
removing them from the human species. Get your head out of the
clouds already. -- You're a dreamer. I live on this planet. --
It's diplomacy. A willingness to get along with neighbors.
Humanistic values. "What do we all have in common". Cutting
things away isn't required but finding a common basis. That's
what makes livable societies. == Notice: We both want a "better
tomorrow". In mine, I don't care what people believe as long as
they're civil, decent, get along and are reasonable. I'm not
sure what you would ultimately ask of the world but it seems a
bit invasive to me. == The question doesn't make sense. You're
using mathematics as a metaphor. Ok. My limits to tolerance?
That's where diplomacy comes in. I don't have the absolute rule
book that all must follow. I have some guidelines. Get arguing
parties together at a table. Discuss. Make compromises until
there's "close enough". Look at Pi. It's always wrong. 3.14.
Always wrong. Shall we spent eternity trying to get to the final
decimal place? We can, sure. But instead, we work with the last
digit that's required to get stuff done and move on with things.
What's acceptable diplomatically today might not be acceptable
diplomatically 100 years from now. But it's the only way that
seems to work. == A "once and for all" attitude leads to war.
It's dangerous thinking. == This is why I'm asking you to get
your head out of the clouds. "If we just remove x, y, and, z,
everything will be fine" is head-in-the-clouds. == But, I could
be wrong. So I'll listen,* Like I said, I don't have all of the
answers. So I'm always listening and giving things my best shot.
== They're humans first, . All humans are capable of reasonable,
civil discussion and behavior. All humans are capable of
creating change, regardless of whether they go to a church or
mosque or sit in front of the computer or whatever. Nobody is
less than human if they're human. == I believe 1/4 of what I
hear on the news. Spin. Hyperbole. Exaggeration. BS. I have to
see humans first. To do otherwise, leads into segregationary
thinking. == Oh I'm not offended. I don't understand why people
play those games either. But this is why I'm here, saying what
I'm saying. I *can't* stand up at a podium and say, "HEY
EVERYBODY ON EARTH, DO THIS!" But I can say something here.
Change begins with the individual, not with groups. ==
