I think math is marvelous. It's hard to beat it as a measuring
tool and pure mathematics has its own beauty in the same way
that poetry adds a beauty to language without being strictly
adhering to grammar and such. In short, there's the math that
corresponds well with reality and then there's the math that
doesn't but has a beauty of its own that goes beyond.
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Hm. Maybe. There's been a fight between Science and Philosophy
for a long time though. I don't have handy-quotes, but if you
think about it, revealing Science-as-a-system within Philosophy
takes away some of the power of Science as absolute arbitrator
of Truth, so philosophy can be dangerous as Science progresses
forward in power.
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*Agreed. Because of your dual-interest, you can see further than
either "silo of knowledge". Puts you in a very strong position,
although you'll likely find yourself in a number of debates from
both camps in the process.
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Indeed. Specializaton. You rarely see a PhD in Generalism.
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*It's encouraged by the system though. All of them. If I wanted
to be a doctor for example, there's no financial benefit to
becoming a general practitioner and becoming a GP isn't
encouraged but specialization is strongly encouraged.
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Yes, and I think our society's globalization and changes in
commercial fields is going to require more generalists and less
specialists. Unfortunately, there's no school for generalist.
Liberal Arts was supposed to be that, but they left that realm
long ago.
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I only LEARNED that "Generalist" is even a real word just about
a year ago. I thought one day, "Wait, everybody's a specialist.
But who is a generalist? Is there such a thing?" and, indeed
there is. There's articles extolling the virtues of the
generalist and predictions of a future that will require more
and more of them - and I believe that to be true - but we're
still stuck in an antiquated industrial revolution model.
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*The only career I could find that embraces Generalist is... of
all things... Human Resources. Freakin' human resources. But at
least they got that one right.'
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Oh absolutely. I go back and forth making fun of both. I see no
reason why they can't be integrated easily enough. Same with
Humanities vs Sciences. The split is strange and artificial to
me.
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*It's beautiful stuff. Cognitively, we can't process numbers
that big, so we simplify to the letter E with a tilde above it
and a subscript 7, with various layers of understanding that go
deeper and further from there.
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*Well yes, the social science are dealing with different _types_
of complexity. It doesn't make the complexities of mathematics
LESS complex in the process.
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Ah. Well, they're repelling an attack. They're right: film
studies is generally considered the "basket weaving" of
academia... well, one of them. But it's a uniquely complex field
for those inside of it. And.. those inside of it, while they
have inight into their OWN field of study, possess a simplified,
minimal insight into fields that are NOT their fields, such as
mathematics and hard sciences. This stereotyping and
simplification allows them to push them aside as minimal in
order to bolster their position as complex. It's a common tactic
in defense but it's unnecessary. Better would have been to say,
"Just as complex but differently" and explained how.
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Oh when I say maturity I'm not talking about puberty or brain
structures. Rather, I'm talking about "outlook on life". Wisdom.
How you treat other people. If you treat someone with mutual
respect, you can be 4 yrs old, 8 yrs old, 15 yrs old, 21, yrs
old, 30 yrs old etc. It's social immaturity.
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Me too. I may never reach my goal. In some ways, I was more
socially mature when I was 12 than I am now. Ups and downs.
Sometimes I let things slide off me, other times I fight. We're
all works in progress... or we're stagnant. But I don't believe
there's a natural progression from less to more when it comes to
social stuff. Iv'e seen wise people get angry over one
particular thing and all of their wisdom goes out the window and
they become wordier versions of, "Your mom was your dad" and
stuff like that.
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I'm a strong believer in civility. The word sound strange to me
even today but I believe fully in it.
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Fighting and arguing is something humans will do 'til they day
we die. I could have 1000 reasons why but it seems to be
something all humans do at all ages and times. But the ability
to recognize the other person/people as "human" is something we
can do at any age and that's where civility comes in. As far as
the conversation they didn't want to have, maybe they wanted to
"post and run". People who rant often do that. They believe what
they believe and, well, that's that.
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After 9 months straight in the philosophy forums, something
changed in me for a little while. I still find myself doing it.
Somebody had to point it out to me that I was doing it: I would
argue more. If sometihng bothered me, I wouldn't let it go and I
would defend my position, not realizing I was REALLY going on
the attack and trying to force a discussion when it wasn't
wanted. I was probably like that before.. but the fact that
someone pointed out to me, "You're always arguing everything
nowadays" really sunk in, so I started working on just "letting
it be".
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