wow. The emotions they be flying.
  Let's see...

  Consciousness is beyond what we can measure?
  Consciousness can't be measured?
  Consciousness is a thing?
  Consciousness must exist in a Platonic realm beyond all...
  [xyzpdq]?

  come on.

  Our ability to measure/not measure something has little to do
  with any bearing on whether something is real or not. It just
  speaks to current limitations.

  I don't mind knowing that everything I experience is from the
  past, and that the future is projection, which is ALSO made in
  the past, about this thing we call 'the future' - which is
  *also* the past, as we have no knowledge of it until it's
  already past.

  it's not that hard to get. Terms like past/present/future are
  convenient... that is, unless you follow a Block View of Time...
  which is fine too, but that view misses much and assumes
  a-plenty. Useful though.

  Of course I could be entirely missing 'the point' of what you
  guys were fighting over but I don't think I did.