* I will consider it further. There's a "something" about the
      gap between creator and created and my intuition may simply
      be a prejudice that I may have answer in some way, either
      through elimination, or elaboration.
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      [4]Kenneth Udut Ok: A consideration:
      The DPM Realized is the creation of an imperfect mind.
      The imperfect mind may be satisfied that DMPR represents
      Perfection.

      But: How can an imperfect mind know it has created
      perfection, if it is imperfect itself? It may create
      something it thinks is perfect, and the creation may itself
      believe it is perfect, but is there any objective way to
      know for sure?

      Or am I quibbling?
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      [8]Kenneth Udut Imperfect: "I have created Perfection"
      Perfect: "I am Perfection"
      It is perfect because the imperfect said so.

      In short, it strikes me rather that the product of an
      imperfect mind may create a _variation_ of self that it
      considers perfect, but there is no way to know what it has
      created *is* perfect. The perfect may believe it is perfect
      but really, is it not but a variation and not perfection?

      The dream is realized. If I was the imperfect creator, I
      would have to consider myself inferior and relinquish
      ownership of being the Real DPM to the DPMR. But it would be
      entirely a subjective perfection.

      But my bias is showing. I am not an idealist, but I am a
      perfectionist.
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      [13]Kenneth Udut [14]Seedy Johnson And if you like, you can
      ignore my ramblings about perfection. My simple answer is:

      In this scenerio, the DPMR is the Real one, because the DPM
      considers it more real than itself. DPM is an idealist. The
      ideal form, he will consider superior.
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      [19]Kenneth Udut But to me, ideals are nothing but lines on
      paper drawn imperfectly by imperfect beings representing a
      mythical perfection.



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