Well, my bias at the moment is, philosophically, I tend towards
  a historical, sociocultural, biological (neurology with leanings
  towards embodied cognition as a framework), and THEN things
  considered the realm of Idea. In other words, I see both modern
  Science and the Western religious tradition as both having the
  same concept: being Platonic - "that there is a universe of
  Ideals or Abstracts that exists outside of space + time" more or
  less. I don't reject it outright as being a possibility; but I
  do tend towards an embodied cognition approach rather than a
  dichotomy of mind/body; we're humans on the planet earth who are
  discussing these things, with peculiarities due to our
  biological makeup. The level of discussion you want is Platonic
  in nature: Boolean Logic, Ideas, Rational, Abstract, Concrete,
  Law of Excluded Middle - I'm not rejecting these as invalid; but
  putting them in a historical, sociocultural and neurological
  context first. I believe we can have meaningful discussions, and
  I would like to, if you're willing to step a little deeper and
  then work our way up to newer sociocultural movements such as
  the history of Atheism, roots of Scientific Method, its
  relationship to Church, etc.