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[smj] we;ll get started in just a moment.
[rjkaez] as we all converge
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[hrbryars] who
[hrbryars] oops
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[smj] I think we're about ready ..
http://sdf.lonestar.org/tech
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[moze] hey smj i figured out the question i sent you
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[smj] I'd like to announce that this will be a once a month (first
thursday night of the month) occurance
[moze] cool
[wbo] great!
[cmpchris] TECH NIGHT (every first Thursday of the Month in COMMODE).
A night
[cmpchris] for members to get together and pick at SMJ's brain and
SMJ gets to
[cmpchris] tell users how they can get the most out of their membership.
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[smj] So, we've had about 26 people testing out he new Dynamic
DNS feature ..
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[moze] what does this feature do
[smj] Basically its for people who want to keep a static host/domain
name, but have a dynamically assigned IP address
[kingalba] //quit
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[cmpchris] i am really sorry but i have to leave :(
[smj] What the user does is they connect to the net through dialup
or DSL or whatever and then they have a script of manaually
run the 'udns' command on SDF to set their new IP address
[cmpchris] good bye
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[ace] is there/will there be a way to update the ip without logging
in to sdf?
[airbrush] dynamically assigned IP = changes as it runs?
[smj] Right
[smj] well ..
[smj] when you connect you usually keep your IP until you disconnect
and recojnnect
[smj] This feature would be best for people who want to be able
to connect back to their machine without having to remember
an ever changing IP address
[moze] diif ip each connection?
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[smj] yes
[moze] good i like that
[smj] MDNS on sdf has really quick updates.
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[rjkaez] so is it available for anyone to try out?
[smj] the 26 or so testers all had good results and found the
info propogated within a minute
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[unilogic] smj how do you set up a nix box so you can use a microsoft
network login to login your win box under a username and pass that
is on the nix box
[smj] the test period is over.. the ARPA members had a vote.
[smj] unilogic I'm talking about MDNS .. please wait
[moze] ok
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[unilogic] oh joy
[unilogic] mmk
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[smj] here are the results
[smj] 71 people voted on there being a $10/year minimum donation
for DMNS membership
[smj] 38 said $20/year
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[smj] and so on .. so its been decided that $10 a year for MDNS
will be the minimum donation
[moze] does 10 a year support it?
[smj] MDNS is so easy to use.
[smj] yes.
[smj] the command is 'udns'
[airbrush] why would I want to use mdns, do I have to have it?
[unilogic] yea its quite easy to update it remotly
[smj] basically you login (or use a script) and run 'udns xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
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[smj] This feature would be best for people who want to be able
[smj] to connect back to their machine without having to remember
[smj] an ever changing IP address
[rjkaez] So how do you connect back?
[hav0c] what does it make your address resolv to when you use that?
[nooper] Is this going to be compatible with DynSite and all the
other remote IP updates?
[nooper] updaters*
[smj] What do you mean?
[smj] with MDNS you can get hav0c.mdns.org
[rjkaez] basically what havoc said
[moze] dumb question but ... what does MDNS stand for?
[rjkaez] ok
[hav0c] ahh
[smj] MetaDNS
[unilogic] you still gonna over a dynamic domain
[unilogic] offfer
[nooper] like all the clients that dyndns.org and other dynamic
ip sites have, that update your ip whenever it changes.
[smj] if you are a DNS member and join DMSN then its possible
[unilogic] oh joy
[smj] nooper, you have to script that yourself
[nooper] ok
[smj] its very easy
[unilogic] its really not that hard to script it
[smj] alot of members have done it already
[smj] yes.
[rjkaez] so we can pay now and have the service?
[nooper] can we make 'username'.freeshell.org point to our dynamic
ip?
[smj] Yes.
[smj] ahh noooper, no
[nooper] ok
[smj] the problem is that freeshell.org has about 2200 subdomains
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[smj] well, thats not the problem but ..
[smj] I wanted to seperate MDNS on its own
[novan] quit
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[moze] understood
[moze] keep things simple right smj
[rjkaez] what kind of configuration does the box taht the address
points to have?
[smj] Right..
[smj] Its up to you rjkaez
[rjkaez] noting special?
[nooper] the config of the DNS server..
[unilogic] i have a script for mdns that gets an ip for ppp on a openbsd
box and updates it using ssh
[smj] no, you don't have to run a DNS server on your machine
[smj] all you need is a script like unilogic is talking about
[unilogic] if anyone needs it
[rjkaez] webserver?so basically i could run an ftp server or something
on my box and access it from the web by pointing to rjkaez.mdns.org
[airbrush] when you say that we have an "ever changing IP address"
, who is changing it?
[smj] are there any more questions about MDNS?
[smj] your provider
[wbo] smj, the sdf.lonestar.org web page lists mdns as $20 a
year
[unilogic] nope
[smj] Yes, I just changed it
[smj] that was prior to the vote
[smj] the vote ended yesterday
[wbo] Is it ok
[smj] yes
[nooper] can we have a blah.nooper.mdns.org different from foo.nooper.mdns.org,
or do we have to have our own dns server for that?
[unilogic] howd the meta-arpa come out
[airbrush] if my provider is changing my IP address, how come I never
had to remember a new one?
[moze] uni
[smj] nooper, that could happen in the future..
[unilogic] moze
[moze] where is script do u have it on ur site?
[smj] infact, I'd like for it to happen
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[smj] airbrush, its only if you want to actually connect back
to your system remotely or have others connect to you.
[nooper] com is pooping on me
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[unilogic] its sitting on my home machine
[airbrush] ok the picture is starting to clear..;)
[moze] ok
[smj] okay if there are no more questions about MDNS I'd like
to talka bout MLIST
[enoma] hi all.
[moze] i am getting major lag here
[smj] complain to sprint
[moze] lol
[ace] lol
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[unilogic] moze do you want my script I can just email it to you its
fairly short
[moze] what is mlist
[moze] sure do it
[enoma] Ermmm... I know i'm late and all but... will this com session
be archived later for OUR perusal? I dont think i'll be able
to stay much longer. :(
[ace] is mlist the same as majordomo?
[smj] MLIST is a membership level that allows you to run and
manage your own Majordomo mailing list
[smj] yes ENOMA
[enoma] Thanks :)
[ace] what is Majordomo?
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[moze] nice enoma
[now] mail client
[now] or list or something
[now] ??
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[smj] its a listserver mechanism .. it allows for simple mailing
lists, authotic subscribing or authenticated subs .. you can digest
or send single messages
[tectiv3] hi
[now] o
[smj] alot of people have been asking for this feature
[now] an its secure
[tectiv3] mayi have a question
[tectiv3] &
[smj] Yes you can restrict posts
[smj] whats your question?
[unilogic] i personally think its a bad idea
[now] yo smj
[now] ur da owner right
[now] ???
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[tectiv3] how how how i amhow i can post my home page
[rjkaez] hcouldn't it be used as a spamming mechanism?
[tectiv3] fuck
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[now] so
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[now] whats it like
[now] any good
[now] is there gui
[now] an can i run the interface off of this server
[smj] yes, its called telnet
[tectiv3] iHelp!!
[smj] thats your GUI
[now] lol
[moze] where will this archive be saved I need ot go to work?
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[airbrush] roflmao
[now] seriously though fella's
[rlg] hi
[unilogic] smj lemme know when you want to deal with my first question
[now] seriously
[smj] rjkaez it is against the AUP to use it for spamming
[now] yyall should use something else
[rjkaez] do you monitor for that kind of activity?
[unilogic] yea doesn't mean it won't be done though
[now] like dial up servers or something
<smj mutes now@sdf>
[moze] dial up stinks
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[rjkaez] ah, quiet...
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[tectiv3] piplz how post homepage
[smj] rjkaez the content won't be monitored but the activity
will.
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[smj] if there are alot of messages going through then the list
will become digested daily
[tectiv3] heh]
[moze] smj ... uni later i wll look at this in archives have a
good nite
[nitewing] what do you define as "lot of messages?
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[airbrush] wouldnt that generate a LOT of traffic?
[smj]
http://sdf.lonestar.org/tech
[wbo] Can individual subscribers et themselves to recieve individual
messages, or digests?
[moze] thanks :)
[ldiscon] hi everybody
[tectiv3] yyou are bots
[smj] I think thats possible wbo
[tectiv3] certanly
[moze] night
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[tectiv3] polubomu
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[smj] airbrush, also the mailing list membership level is $5/mo
[smj] we decided to set it to that to limit abuse
[smj] thats still cheaper than amost commercial service providers
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[smj] but it could protect us from abuse.
[wm] from *some* abuse
[rjkaez] yeah, that's a good level
[tectiv3]
ftp://files.3dnews.ru/pub/drivers/nvidia/40.41_winxp.exe:quit
[smj] well, if its abused then its going away for that member..
thats all
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[airbrush] I agree, but I gathered from an earler conversation with
you that you were adverse to having a lot of traffic through
sdf
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[smj] are there any more questions about MLIST?
[wm] you check manually?
[wm] erm, you check manually for each user?
[smj] wm why would I do that?
<com unmutes now@sdf>
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[jcross42] hear me out smj
[wm] dunno... always throught you were all for automation..
:)
[jcross42] set up a graphical user interface on ur lan
[smj] yes its automated
[jcross42] an install it on the other servers
[smj] jcross42 we're talking about MLIST
[jcross42] telnet is really old
[jcross42] i kno
[jcross42] im just saying
[smj] CRTs are really old
[jcross42] it would make things more interesting
[rjkaez] telnet is good
[vosi] lol
[jcross42] no
[rjkaez] ssh is beetter
[erics] i like telnet
[jcross42] yea
[wm] telnet is good if you telnet out of sdf.. :)
[jcross42] they are
<smj mutes jcross42@sdf>
[smj] we're talking about MLIST
[unilogic] thats wonderful we don't need to voice our opinions on
telnet, and ssh
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[smj] are there anymore questions about MLIST?
[wbo] no
[rjkaez] fresh out...
[airbrush] no
[wm] =P
[unilogic] none
[smj] okay,k I wanted to talk about MetaARPA membership.
[rlg] nope
[msl521] mute nowwho
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[phreeze] w/e
[ace] does metaarpa include those blazin new machines that you
bought?
[smj] No, heres the deal.. at the board meeting last night we
decided that MetaARPA membership would be something different
[smj] basically a MetaARPA would be anyone who makes a reoccuring
donation to SDF.
[phreeze] ok im just saying if yall set up a gui on your servers
than it would make things alot more interesting an alot more
people would send donations
[erinb] any set amount?
[smj] either through a pledge of support or through one of the
8 higher membership levels
[wm] reoccuring?
[smj] phreeze you are using a GUI now
[rlg] like vhost?
[phreeze] yea i kno
[smj] a monthly or annual pldge
[phreeze] telnet
[unilogic] phreeze don't talk
[phreeze] lol
[phreeze] im talking about something wayy dif
[phreeze] like fwm
[phreeze] or x-windows servers
[smj] Yes, fwm
[wm] perhaps vnc?
[phreeze] an run a tsr
[phreeze] routed over your lan
[smj] we're not talking about that phreeze
<smj mutes phreeze@sdf>
[smj] We're talking about metaarpa membershiop
[unilogic] tard
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[smj] Okay, the board is writing up new ByLaws
[smj] the new bylaws will be available to all members.
[unilogic] whois all in the board
[smj] they will docuemnt the membership levels and the privs
that the members have
[smj] the board is comprised of 6 people
<com unmutes jcross42@sdf>
[smj] Stpehen Jones, Migiwa Seito, Bo Ahlberg, Eric Schnobelen,
Gerhard Tratter and Tom Bates
[unilogic] do i know those 6 people
[smj] these people have made significant contributions to SDF
over the years
[unilogic] ahh
[smj] They have made more contributions than you have unilogic.
[unilogic] cool
[erinb] these are founders and your wife right
[erinb] etc
[rjkaez] do you have in person meetings
[smj] they are not founders.
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[smj] I'm the only founder left
[erinb] ah
[smj] I appointed these people
[plug] am i fashionalbly late
[unilogic] smj i know i never said i made that much of any contributions
[plug] for something?
[plug] i have i love sdf and thats enough
[smj] anyway, I am writing up the ByLaws with Bo Ahlberg and
will ave them available at the end of the month
[plug] if i had money id be throwing it at smj
[smj] They will state who has voting rights and who can serve
on the board
[unilogic] good
[plug] but im a broke white boy in the suburbs
<plug smirks>
[plug] whats going on smj?
[smj] BTW, we have a new SDF brochure .. it will be available
in PDF format that anyone can download and print out to give
to friends.
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[tommy420] u
[erinb] I have always been thinking about a contribution. I think
I'm going to wait until the end of the semester and see what
my budget is like.
[tommy420] ur lisa
[airbrush] cool
[tommy420] man
[vosi] nice
[tommy420] now why'd u go an do that
[rjkaez] cool
[wm] sigh, pdf
[tommy420] not cool
[unilogic] a brochure nifty
[hrbryars] I like that
[smj] how do you guys like the 'pledge' command?
<com unmutes phreeze@sdf>
[rjkaez] where will it be available, and how soon?
[unilogic] sounds to comercial though
[erinb] I think it's a useful thing that could keep people doing
what they say they will
[smj] on the webpage and probablly this weekend
[smj] unilogic how is commercial?
[airbrush] havent used it yet, but will soon...:0
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[tommy420] k
[hrbryars] Isn't 'pledge' what we used to when we signed up?
[rjkaez] spreading good word isn't comercialism
[smj] You are welcome to play with the pledge command.
[unilogic] i dunno its like we're trying to advertise and sell sdf
[tommy420] i have some questions that i need answered
[tommy420] but i donot totaly kno how to pronounce them correctly
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[tommy420] can some1 help plz
[smj] unilogic SDF has to be funded by its membersihp
[wm] i think its like pbs... donation-based.. :)
[tommy420] now where there
[tommy420] yes
[smj] its a nonprofit 501(c)7
[unilogic] i know just saying
[tommy420] an i kno how u can make ur funds sky rocket
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[rlg] can you tell us more about the new membership levels?
[smj] the brochures are cool they talk about SDF's history and
what we're about
[rjkaez] not another?...
[airbrush] in what way can we "play "with the pledge command?
[enecks] hey homies
[erinb] What kind of amount would you expect from a pledge, smj
[unilogic] alright thats ok i guess
[smj] I already have rlg, but what kind of questions do you have?
[tommy420] w/e
[erinb] for marpa
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[nitewing] w:help
[rjkaez] i think those brochures could really boost membership,
if enough of us place them strategically abou us
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[smj] Yes, they hardly look commercial
[smj] they look more odd than anything :)
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[plug] dang sdf
[unilogic] i personally don't think anyone in my town knows what unix
is let alone can telnet or ssh to sdf
[plug] really has changed
[rjkaez] lol, are they trifold?
[plug] since i came into its world
[plug] ( s 1 g h )
[smj] so why not help them learn about it?
[plug] nothing stays the same good days to be remembered and hell
waiting to come
[ace] my mom's like "what do you mean ur logged into another
computer? are you hacking?"
[erinb] smj? What kind of amount would you expect in pledges for
marpa
[unilogic] Not my place to help people learn unix at least yet
[smj] part of our mission is to teach the public that the internet
is not only about seeing through a narrow hole that is port
80 ..
[plug] heh
[plug] ya
[plug] thats cool
[smj] unilogic, don't be selfish.. you are only one of 22,000
users
[erinb] (:
[rjkaez] good diction
[plug] you put that in the brochoure or w/e
[hrbryars] When will the brochures be available?
[plug] haha
[wm] i dont really see how a couple of DEC machines could be
put to use for webservers and such, why not just the good old
unix? :P
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[unilogic] if you lived in a population of 4,000 in northern michigan
you would understand
[plug] netbsd is the heart of unix
[smj] wm I agree.
[plug] right smj?
[plug] you know what
[smj] Yes plug
[rjkaez] maybe an artery...
[plug] no its the heart
[plug] ;)
[plug] i mgiht have some eyedea's
[erinb] *sigh* I don't guess my question will get answered..
[plug] for sdf
[rjkaez] ok..;
[wm] but then again, seeing as how DECs have been powerfully
displayed... like some sort of supercomputing..
[smj] marpa?
[erinb] yea
[plug] but i dont thikn you w would like them
[smj] MARPA is anyone who is using
[smj] the high membership levels
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[erinb] you had said, or is making pledges
[smj] this will be stated in the ByLaws
[haferman] who
[unilogic] so what are we going to have to do to use the new machines
[smj] right
[smj] I'm still working that out
[erinb] okay, so you'll know when the bylaws come out
[plug] why not make more to sdf then just a shell server or hosting
or public access unix server mabey make another server and
call it sdf's wargames for people like us or mabey well naw
you already got enough games on sdf
[smj] right now we have 8 machines
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[airbrush] is there still going to be the basic ARPA level?
[haferman] help
[plug] wow 8
[wm] but what would stop an abuser from just purchasing (or
donating) just to abuse it? Sure, the prices are low and reasonable
and that this is a paus but it wouldnn't stop them anyhow...
(well, some of them)
[plug] thats alot!
[smj] yes airbrush of course
[smj] nothing major is changing
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[plug] no matter what thier are always abusers
[splitx] represent represent
[plug] thatw why you need an admin like smj
[erinb] most people that maliciant are also cheap
[smj] wm, they would be detected and firewalled
[wm] heh, yeah. an admin like smj. :)
[haferman] quit
[smj] sdf firewalls you guys from so much crap you don't even
know about
[plug] smj used to be my idol
[plug] ;)
[wm] to hell with that, smj IS my idol... :)
[plug] not just his ove and dedication towards sdf but for computers
and knowledge and security in general is what i respect
[haferman] leave
[rjkaez] who now? that kelly ido person?
[haferman] exit
[smj] SDF is my idol
[plug] he was before alky came laong
[plug] sorry smj
[haferman] vomit
<plug smirks>
[kthansen] QQq
[unilogic] so what type of things get firewalled smj
[splitx] type :quit
[smj] spammers, people trying to port flood and such
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[erinb] munchkins
[splitx] he means stuff we dont even know about i think
[splitx] or was that it
[plug] hah
[plug] funny
[wm] wait, how frequent do abuse come by?
[unilogic] ohh normal shit thought your were talking about some mysterious
shit or something
<haferman's boss has entered the room>
<haferman's boss has left the room>
[splitx] yea me 2
[smj] SDF is attacked everyday
[unilogic] you still have a modem in any of the boxes
[smj] usually from romania or poland
[smj] no modems
[unilogic] not surprised
[vosi] ha
[splitx] geeze
[unilogic] aww no dialing out
[wm] yeh, not surprised (when they dont have laws against *hacking)
[splitx] i figured it would be those damned mongolians
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[unilogic] any good bbs in seattle
[smj] yeh .. I tried to build a shitty wall but .. it didn't
work
[02:53:07] ajaxs@sdf has joined tech.
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[ajaxs] holly crap there are a lot of peopel in ths room
[unilogic] lmao
[smj] anyway ..
[plug] yeh
[unilogic] that was the best episod
[splitx] not laggin bad at all
[smj] so you guys know how to support sdf.
[splitx] actually almost not at all
[wm] yup
[erinb] yes
[smj] you guys are what make SDF cool..
[plug] not really cept m money wise
[ajaxs] oh man is this smjs little sminar
[ajaxs] did I miss it?
[hav0c] send smj money?
[erinb] smj -
[smj] SDF is an entity
[plug] how can i support sdf
[erinb] what about fundraisers
[plug] but shirts stickers
[plug] or donate
[plug] i have a hardrive
[smj] Yes, we still have Tshirts left
[plug] i can give
[erinb] like some sort of benefit .. it's hard to think of how
to do things when everyone is far away,
[smj] plug, I bought 25 36.4gig SCA SCSI drives for sdf.
[plug] i might actually buy a tshirt
[rjkaez] what was the command to see inventory?
[unilogic] smj you ever gonna do giga ethernet
[smj] type 'inv' in 'order'
[plug] damn soo i take it you dont want my old shitty hardrive
[smj] unilogic yes
[smj] plug sorry ..
[splitx] i want it plug
[splitx] heh
[unilogic] any time soon
[plug] its cool
[ajaxs] my god I 've been writing the most killer song on my guitar
[smj] we might be able to auction it off
[ajaxs] i wish you guys could here it
[plug] well how bout arpa does that supporet sdf good?
[splitx] wuts giga ethernet?
[smj] thats what I'm doing with all our old gear frright now
[plug] i really want to do my part for sdf
[wm] has the tshirts helped considerably in funding?
[smj] its 1000mbit ethernet
[smj] yes the Tshirt fund rasiing event was completely successful!
[unilogic] just TX?
[wm] =)
[smj] The cost was about $1850
[plug] but sweet
[erinb] what sorts of non-monetary donations could members give?
[smj] but we ended up with about $4000
[smj] so it was a great fundraisser
[plug] soo ill buy a shirt n arpa next month 4 sure how bout that
smj/
[joed] my t-shirt rocks
[erinb] cool
[wm] Might wanna try it next time... but with different designs...
perhaps we could submit custom designs and vote for them. :P
[smj] plug whatever you want to do man.
[unilogic] smj is it gonna be 1000base-tx or say fx?
[erinb] yes I love mine too (the green is cool)
[plug] this time i really will i actually got money
[splitx] lter all
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[rjkaez] 100so do mine, i get plenty off wonders and looks...
<exu2323 cheers for his sdf t-shirt>
[plug] i jsut want a cool lookin shirt
[02:56:59] hav0c@otaku has left tech.
[smj] really rjkaez? tell me about tit?
[smj] it?
[smj] I noticed that too..
[smj] wearing my shirt around;
[rjkaez] in school, only one prson knew what unix was
[rjkaez] they ask
[unilogic] wow rj same here
[rjkaez] thery are like, i'll go visit it
[unilogic] and the person that knew is my best friend
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[rjkaez] i'm like, go for it
[wm] well, i guess i'll be wearing my tshirt back to taiwan
tomorrow.. :)
[wm] see what happens.. :)
[rjkaez] i know none of them will get past port 80 though
[smj] well, since we sent out the Tshirts it seems our daily
member count has doubled.
[erinb] cool :)
[02:58:51] rendi@sdf has joined tech.
[rjkaez] as soon as i get a car, i'm gonna slap on my bsticker
[wm] lol, really?
[erinb] many of them get paid memberships?
[rendi] hi all
[smj] so, if you guys are interested in any of the new membership
levels .. or anything please just email me.
[smj] erinb .. no :(
[unilogic] smj i know it would be expensive but i think you should
run fiber for a network
[smj] but maybe they will.
[hrbryars] When did you say those brochures would be available?
[erinb] Yea I wanna put that sticker on my car too.. I left my
car at home tho
[smj] unilogic I know what I should do ..
[wm] oh yeah, what about bumperstickers? :P
[smj] we still have bumper stickers
[unilogic] smj are you sure you know what you should do
[smj] just sent $2 and a sase
<smj mutes unilogic@otaku>
[wm] hehe, i'm gonna do that.. :P
[erinb] it's a cool sticker
[rjkaez] most cool
[plug] how bout hats
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[plug] or sdf visors got those?
[rendi] wwcan i get box under unix
[wm] or perhaps pout some new designs?
[smj] we're going to make a new sticker as soon as the old ones
are out
[plug] or didnt wanna go that far?
[erinb] who wears hats?
[rjkaez] along with the red martian one
[smj] Well, we talked about making hats.. I don't know.. that
might be going too far.
[rendi] ajhgasdjgajsgjdas
[ajaxs] i do
[wm] ah yeah, and rm too
[ajaxs] hat's look nice on my bald head
[joed] hats are cool
[ajaxs] hurray for hats!
[airbrush] mats, and tags would sell
[erinb] if you made hats you'ld have to make mousepads and coffee
mugs too
[ace] how about an sdf cell-phone faceplate
[plug] naw
[plug] dont make hats
[plug] make visors
[erinb] ha
[ajaxs] i would buy a moouse pad
[plug] more slick
[wm] how bout' sweaters? winter is coming btw.. :P
[smj] hehe
[ajaxs] hey smj do you need any help with designs
[ajaxs] graphics is what I do
[erinb] actually a mouspad would rule
[smj] we'll have to see what our fundrasiing budget can do
[plug] i dont wwear hats but i wear visors a sdf hat would be
bad err i mean visor
[ace] i'm for a mousepad
[rlg] Mugs are great
[erinb] you could have a contest
[xcentric] I vote for cellphone faceplates
[smj] mouse pads are so expensive to make
[vosi] cofee mugs would be great
[wm] lol
[erinb] are they
[cyph] i think a cloth patch thingie would be neat :P stick it
on a lapto back, and you're set
[ajaxs] i would work for free
[smj] if you want quality ones
[ajaxs] if it's to help the comlunity
[plug] wait
[cyph] laptop bag, that is
[plug] smj
[plug] you ever thought bout a magazine
[smj] well heres the thing.. there is cafepress.. but they are
so cheap in quality!
[joed] condoms
[wm] a cloth patch would be neat... :P
[ajaxs] a magazine woud kick ass
[plug] not really a magazine
[plug] but like a new article on related things
[wm] lol, not a magazine.. :)
[smj] if we make something we want it to be cool and good quality
[ajaxs] more like a news leter
[ajaxs] but a magaize would still be cool
[ajaxs] too expensive tyough
[plug] yes ofcourse
[plug] ya i think it would be cool
[erinb] has sdf ever attempted a newsletter type thing smj?
[xcentric] smj how about jackets?
[wm] or perhaps we could take a few really good posttings from
bboard and compile it in a magazine? :P
[plug] mabey like a cheap one like 2600
[ajaxs] lol way too much is going on for him to repsond to it all
[plug] or even posters smj those would sell think of some good
posters
[ajaxs] i'll gow ork on my song soem more
[ace] yeah, a newsletter would be nice, to let us know whats
new.. and who all these people on that board are.
[smj] well, I don't think sdf should make a bunch of material
stuff
[plug] now i know you cant get too into items for sdf but just
going alittle deep could be worth it
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[ajaxs] bubut seriously smj
[hrbryars] Probably the simplest and most effective way to raise funds
is for the membership to directly recruit friends, colleagues,
etc.
[smj] I think tshirts and stickers are cool for now.
[ajaxs] let me know if you ever need some help with designing
[ajaxs] I would be glad to help out
[wm] indeed.. :)
[plug] or sdf could sell books
[ajaxs] and I'm good with graphics
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[smj] well, we can try different things each quarter.
[exu2323] with a centerfold of smj modeling the sdf shirts
[erinb] I can agree to that. Newsletter would be cool if it was
done right.
<com unmutes unilogic@otaku>
[plug] SDF Books over anything wouled even be cool if you had
a team of people willing to write
[xcentric] sdf users could write some articles and send them to an
editor
[plug] but ya newsletter would be the best
[erinb] books about programming, unix, etc, plug?
[hrbryars] You're sick, JT
[ajaxs] i agree to that
[plug] or something of that nature
[ajaxs] next to mouse pads tha tis
[plug] ya exactly erin
[plug] for people like us mabey even sell em alittle cheap
[erinb] sdf should write a college textbook
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[erinb] haha
[plug] SDF could be a book
[plug] history and everything
[plug] haha
[rjkaez] i got some laugshs our of my friends on those modeling
pictures, expecially the politically inocrrect red... ;-)
[03:07:19] xcentric@sdf has left tech.
[exu2323] yeah the red was scandolous(sp?)
[erinb] I still don't see how that was any more offensive than
mine,
[smj] we're trying to get a bunch of pics togehter to do a little
wall paper of sdf users
[plug] well im out
[plug] nice talkin people
[plug] plug-tech.com
[plug] ;)
[plug] and sdf rule!!
[rcook] quit
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[smj] yours wsn't offensive erinb
[erinb] yea other people need to do it! I did
[rcook] q
[rjkaez] smj: i have a few from the picture page project
[erinb] I dunno if it could be construed into mocking gangsters
or something
[ajaxs] smj maybe I could madesign an sdf logo and you could prieview
to se if you like my work
[joed] a picture page would be cool
[ace] where are these other model pics?
[erinb] nowhere cos no one else has done it yet :P
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[ajaxs] i would but i don't have a t-shirt
[ajaxs] i'm poor
[ace] hapiworm said no?
[erinb] what happened .. like 2 weeks ago everyone was like, yea
I'll do it if you do
[03:10:57] kazoo@otaku has joined tech.
[erinb] she said she hasn't gotten one yet
[ajaxs] send me a free tshirt and i'll do it
[kazoo] hello all
[erinb] ajaxs you're cheap
[rjkaez] don't be cheap
[ajaxs] i'll be more offensie then erinb i garanty you
[ajaxs] lol i'm not cheap im poor
[rjkaez] sdf isn't cheap
[hrbryars] Josh, you got your SIMP up?
[erinb] smj, how many tshirts in all did you have pressed?
[exu2323] yup
[loausfla] help
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[unilogic] lmao
[ajaxs] i guess smj doesn't like my design idea
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[smj] Well, I just wanted to say, email me if you have any questions
about joining one of the membership levels .. you can also use
the 'pledge' command if you would like to pledge a small donation
to sdf.
[ajaxs] I don't pblame you for being skeptical
[ajaxs] since I"m a newb and I spam alot
[loausfla] can I create a subdirectiory and use my own cgi scripts?
[ajaxs] but I am really good at graphics
[akejay] hmm this is kinda neat. just a general conversation?
[akejay] /echo
[akejay] ooops
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[smj] thank you guys for using sdf and have fun ..
[rjkaez] the meeting was earlier
[rjkaez] it's been dieing off
