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Subject: Re: DFWHUG may say GOODBY
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Pat -

A few weeks ago you asked me if you could publish a notice authored
by Charles Horn (DFW Heathkit Users Group) in the DECUS news letter.

I was informed that the recent DECUS losing newsletter had the DFWHUG
GOODBY message.  I've got no problem with that, but I thought
I specifically requested that there be a mention of the winning
link between DR hacker Gary Kildall, CP/M and TOPS-10.

Was there disagreement and comments from the VAX weenies?

Please keep up the coverage of ALPHA UNIX.

Stephen

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From: Dan Murphy <[email protected]>
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Subject: A Quote to Savor


   I've always liked this quote from Ken Thompson, effectively
   acknowledging TENEX:

       "I thank the ACM for this award. I can't help but feel that I
       am receiving this honor for timing and serendipity as much as
       technical merit. UNIX swept into popularity with an
       industry-wide change from central main frames to autonomous
       minis. I suspect that Daniel Bobrow (1) would be here instead
       of me if he could not afford a PDP-10 and had had to "settle"
       for a PDP-11."

       - Ken Thompson, "Reflections on Trusting Trust", ACM Turing
       Award Lecture, CACM, Vol 27, No. 8, August 1984.

   Now, thanks to the web, the entire article is available for all to
   see at:

   http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~sanjiv/sys_sec/security/thompson/hack.html

   And on the subject of articles, my writeup of the history of
   TOPS-20 may be found at:

       http://www.mv.com/users/murphy/hbook.html

   Some of the other old papers will also appear there soon.


   dlm

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From: [email protected] (Carl A Baltrunas)
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Subject: Shutdown of the last 4 Tymshare KL-10s
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I'm reprinting here a copy of the message I posted to alt.sys.pdp10 and
had forgotten to send off to this list until Joe Smith reminded me today.

 Date: Sun, 25 Feb 96 03:22:52 PDT
 Organization: Catalyst Art
 Reply-To: [email protected], [email protected] or [email protected]

Well,
 It is time.... they are seriously pursuing the shutdown of
the last four KL-10s at Tymshare, a.k.a. MCI these days. As far
as I know there will be no hoopla.  The machines are scheduled
to be decomissioned, shut down, etc. the end of February 1996.
They will do final backups of the data, and then start the
process of dismantling the machines.

I am not sure if they have a buyer for the parts, but if anyone
is interested, please contact me, or Joe Smith at MCI and we
will put you in contact with the people who are attempting to
sell off the hardware. (possibly to Novadyne for parts, or some
other group for scrap).

Our current PDP-10 applications have been effectively moved off
to *nix, IBM or other platforms. One application has been moved
off to an XKL TOAD-1 and other than some growing pains and the
unfixed bugs in TOPS-20 that we've aggravated by throwing nearly
200 simultaneous users at it.  The lifespan of that application
is still under debate, but the XKL team has provided necessary
support and bug fixes (much faster than I recall DEC ever coming
up with a quick fix) along the way.

*** If you are seriously interested in these machines, please
*** contact me as soon as possible so that I can pass your name
*** off to the people trying to dispose of the equipment.

We have 4 KL-10s, at least 4 SA-10 interfaces, numerous memorex
3650 and 3652 disk drives and controllers (I forget the 36xx #)
on these systems.  No NI or CI interfaces as we have our own
custom network interface to TYMNET for connectivity.  Some number
of STC tape drives and controllers as well. All disk/tape drives
have been connected via the SA-10 interface.

-Carl Baltrunas,  MCI Network Services, San Jose.
408-922-6206,  [email protected], [email protected]

You may also contact Joe Smith, MCI Network Services, San Jose.
408-922-6220,  [email protected], [email protected]


===========
An update:  06-Mar-96

I am still not aware that any buyers have been lined up, but do not have
an inkling of what MCI might consider these machines to be worth. I have
a contact from the Computer History Association of California, The Computer
Museum (even with all the hoopla about how machines have been cut up and
sold) and one or two others.

*** If you are at all interested in paying for the decommissioning or
*** shipping of these boxes to some other location, please contact me or
*** Joe smith at the addresses given above.

===========

This is truly the end of an era of 36-bit computing at Tymshare (or whatever
we're called these days).  At one time, I counted over 40 PDP-10 processors
from KA-10's, KI-10's, KL-10's, KS-10's, Foonly F3's and Foonly F4's running
various flavors of TENEX and TYMCOM-X (also called TYMCOM-XX on the KS-10)
up and running on the network.

Tymshare, Inc. as a timesharing service bureau and custom consulting company
with their own flavor of operating system and various utilities built out of
the Digital Equipment Corporation TOPS-10 5.02 series monitor has now become
another milestone in the history of computing. The last 4 systems were powered
off on Friday, March 1st, 1996.  These were serial numbers 1354 (F34), 1388
(F38), 1421 (F32) and 1427 (F26) where the numbers in parentheses designate
the location "F" for Fremont California, and the 2-digit host numbers were the
TYMNET host numbers.

A fitting eulogy should be written, and I will be soliciting comments and
brief stories from many of the people who worked on these machines over the
years (if they can still be contacted) in order to make an attempt at one.

TYMCOM-X ran most any language that was available for TOPS-10 and many that
were ported from Stanford WAITS (such as SAIL) or rewritten from the SDS-940
such as SIMPL.  Tymshare ran DEC's F40 compiler and linker 'LOADER' until
the very end, long past even the life that DEC envisioned for the product.
Database systems such as Software House's 1022 were available and in full
production use until last December 18th (1995) when that production system
was brought up on an XKL Systems TOAD-1 [and is still running today :-)].

Other than being an orhpan step-child of an operating system, TYMCOM-X had
the best of TOPS-10 and TOPS-20; a quick scheduler, a lean operating system,
network connectivity, sharable pages by file, fork, absolute memory or
absolute disk page (your choice, depending upon privileges), license or
capability flags which could be placed on jobs, forks or programs with
more security than TOPS-20 file and directory groups since a program could
be setup with directory access privileges which ordinary users could not
override.

The last major monitor version was P036/E with a couple of revisions and
patches. (What decent monitor was ever worth anything without patches ;-)

It's an amazing system.  And now it is gone.   ..but not forgotten.



Novadyne Computer Systems is in the throes of disconnecting cables to
Memorex 3650 and 3652 disk drives, System Concept's SA-10s, STC tape drives
and AMPEX ARM-10 LX memory boxes.  At least one system is reported as
completely de-installed, the rest will soon follow.

No firm date for when the boxes will be dropped off the loading dock... er..
um... I mean.. shipped out to whomever claims them... let's hope that they
are either purchased by someone who wants one or more in working order or
that they are donated to a worthy Museum or Historical Society.  However,
they are moving pretty quick to de-install them, I wouldn't wait long if
you are interested in getting one of these systems intact.

-Carl


Carl A Baltrunas;  MCI Network Services, DSO; Product & Technical Support
 (408) 922-6206   Systems Technical Support, San Jose, California.
 [email protected],  [email protected],  [email protected]


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From: Mark Crispin <[email protected]>
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Subject: 13 YEARS AGO TODAY: June 17, 1983 - PDP-10 massacre day
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Yes, friends, it's time once again for a moment of silence.  13 years ago
today, in the wake of the failure of the Jupiter project, the infamous
decision was made to kill the PDP-10.

-- Mark --

DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot  FAX: (206) 842-0758  ICBM: N 47.36'24" W 122.34'08"
TOPS-20: A Great Improvement Over Its Successors


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On Fri, 17 May 96 11:16:04 PDT, Jim Lewinson wrote:
> Today is May 17, not June 17.  Something doesn't match up here...

Yes, I mistyped.  Today's the day; it was May 17, not June 17.


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Beware!!  Boobytrap alert!

The address "[email protected]" (note the missing hyphen) is used by the
infamous "Krazy Kevin" Lipsitz for his magazine ads.  He apparently got
this misspelled form from some list-of-lists.  It forwards directly to the
America Online abuse line, since that's what "Krazy Kevin" is using to
spew his garbage.

I got tired of having to intercept/filter them out, or getting the bounce
reports from AOL ("disk quota exceeded"/"account closed") that's why.
Several of these messages happen every week, much more than the normal
traffic on the TOPS-20 list.  By making it forward directly, it becomes
AOL's problem and not mine.

So, please be careful to use the correct spelling of the list name, with a
hyphen.  Dan Murphy fell into the trap (sorry Dan!) but I'm sure that you
prefer it to getting lots of magazine ads....  ;-)

When an end is finally put to "Krazy Kevin" (I understand that AOL is
working on major legal action), I'll turn off the boobytrap.

-- Mark --

DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot  FAX: (206) 842-0758  ICBM: N 47.36'24" W 122.34'08"
TOPS-20: A Great Improvement Over Its Successors


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From: Robert Michaels <[email protected]>
Subject: JOB POSTING - HW ENGINEER
To: [email protected]
Organization: XKL Systems Inc
Location: Redmond, Wa
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Since we build DEC-20 clones I thought it might be appropriate to forward
this listing to this group. The big boss has some really exciting plans
for which we could use some help.

Robert

                -------------------------------------------


Develop State-of-the-Art Digital Hardware in Washington State

XKL Systems Corp. is a small, fairly new company in Redmond, Washington which
manufactures special-purpose computing systems.  We are just beginning to
develop a new product line in digital communications based on our present
technology.

XKL is looking for HARDWARE ENGINEERING candidates which have at least 5
years' experience with PCB-level high-speed digital design, including
familiarity with microcontroller technology and design using FPGAs/PLDs.  TTL
and ECL circuits will be used in a mixed environment.  Our boards will operate
at agressive clock rates.  The position also requires hands-on lab prototyping
and testing and familiarity with schematic entry and PCB layout (you do your
own).  Knowledge of RF, ASIC design techniques and/or diagnostic software is a
PLUS.  EMI experience and solutions are highly desirable.  The successful
candidate must have completed at least one major design project, through
manufacturing introduction.

All candidates should be creative and self-motivated, possess strong
analytical skills, good interpersonal skills and be comfortable in a
small team setting.  Excellent verbal and written communication skills are
absolutely necessary.

Salary will be negotiated.  XKL has a typical benefits package including
medical and dental insurance and a 401(k) plan.

Please send your resume via either:

                 e-mail    [email protected] (ascii text),
                    fax    (206) 861-7863,
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                       Principals only, please.

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Subject: [[email protected]: Alan Kotok retirement (fwd)]

Hi Folks,

Here's some news about one of the most notable of our 36-Bit Pioneers.

After all the computer retirements we've heard about on this list,
this is a refreshing contrast...!

Clive Dawson
Advanced Micro Devices
Austin, TX


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       This is to let you know that after 34 years with Digital, Alan Kotok
has decided to take early retirement. It will take effect from the end of
November. In the intervening weeks Alan will be on a leave of absence,
however he will be continue to be on-line via email at <[email protected]>.

       Near the end of November we will be organizing a social event to
celebrate Alan's career and many achievements in Digital and to wish him
well for the future. Please send me a note if you wish to be notified.
Please also feel free to forward this announcement.

/Bill Laing
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Subject: ITS networking facilities

I am curious about this as well.
       -Joe

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As an apparently PDP-10 fan, I wonder if you could help me
answer a question:
       Apparently the ITS operating system had some form of networked file
system similar to NFS. Where can I find out details ?
       Also, did ITS have some form of networked remote command execution
facility, similar to UNIX rsh ? Pointers as to where to find out ?

       Thanks.



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This message came from a viewer of http://www.inwap.com/pdp10/.
Can anyone help him?
       -Joe

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Joe, I just discovered your PDP-10 page.

       I started programming PDP-10s in 1969, working for several timesharing
startups.  Eventually I developed the FORTRAN debugger RAID, which I
then licensed to several PDP-10 timesharing companies, and others.  Ever
hear of it?  DEC was going to buy it from me but chose to steal it
instead. I often wonder if I should have sued.

       I have occasionally wondered whatever happened to Dr. John Goltz, who
started Compuserve.  So I was naturally interested in the Trevor
Alexander note to Joe Dempster detailing early Compuserve history.  All
of us who tried to turn them things into something commercially
profitable seemed to know each other at that time.  I see a lot of
parallels between the development of timesharing and internetting.

       I was the senior systems programmer at Graphic Controls when it was
bought by Tymshare in 1971 (that's how Tymshare got a few of its first
PDP-10s). I sometimes regret not accepting Tymshare's offer to bring me
along with the computers to Cupertino.  There was a nice husband and
wife team in charge of opsys stuff I would have worked for.

       Keep up the good work on the page, and let me know if you have a line
on John.

       Also, going back even earlier, does anyone know what became of Shelly
Boylan, who worked on one of the first multiprogrammed (and multi-user)
PDP-1s?  I haven't seen him since the early '70s.

Yours truly,
          Ross Scott <[email protected]>  voice:607-478-8793
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INWAP.COM is Joe and Sally Smith, John and Chris O'Halloran and our cats
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We at XKL Systems would like to invite the members of the (dwindling) Tops-20
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Joe, Ross --

> I have occasionally wondered whatever happened to Dr. John Goltz, who
> started Compuserve.

Just on the off-chance, I tried an AltaVista search using the name "John Goltz".
The very first match reads:

 Who is John Goltz? John Goltz, PhD is the President and a general Partner of
 Allegro Systems, Ltd.
 Below is a resume of his experience to date....
 http://www.allegrosys.com/jrgres.html - size 4K - 6 Nov 95

This page is no longer present, but that may just be because their Web site
has gotten more formal.  Still, Allegro Systems may be a good starting point.
Their contact info is:

 Allegro Systems, Limited
 2233 E. Speedway Boulevard
 Tucson, AZ 85719, U.S.A.

 1(520)795-6000

 [email protected]

 http://www.allegrosys.com/

(Since the second item returned by the AltaVista search was for a different
Goltz, that first hit is probably the only one.)

-- Pat Tressel


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If you are a home collector of Digital's 36b systems, you can now get
a free,

personal use, non-commercial license for your existing system software


(TOPS-10, TOPS-20, and related layered products and utilities).
Simply fill in

the attached license form and return it to Dick Greeley in Digital's
Corporate

Licensing Office ([email protected]).  This license grants
you a

free, as is, non-commercial license for using 36b software on a home
system.

You must already have, or have access to, the software itself; the
license does

NOT include any distribution medium, documentation, or support.

/Bob Supnik
/Digital Equipment Corporation

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LICENSE AGREEMENT

This Agreement, dated ________________, is entered into by Digital

Equipment Corporation, a Massachusetts corporation with principal

offices at 111 Powdermill Road, Maynard, MA 01752 (DIGITAL), and

_____________________________________________ having a residence at
___________________________________________________________________

("CUSTOMER").

Whereas, DIGITAL has developed TOPS-10 and TOPS-20 Operating System

software technology and is prepared to grant a non-exclusive license


to use such software technology for personal, non-commercial
purposes;

Whereas, CUSTOMER desires to enter into a License Agreement which will


allow CUSTOMER to use such software technology at his or her residence


for personal, non-commercial purposes;

DIGITAL and CUSTOMER agree as follows:

1  DEFINITIONS

SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY shall mean the sources and binaries to the TOPS-10


and TOPS-20 (operating systems), and associated utilities and layered


products that run on PDP-10 computers.

DIGITAL'S INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS shall mean DIGITAL's patent,

copyright and trade secret rights in its SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY.


2  LICENSE GRANT

DIGITAL grants to CUSTOMER a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free

license under DIGITAL's INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS to use and modify


the SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY solely for personal, non-commercial uses.


3  TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER AND ACCEPTANCE

3.1     CUSTOMER is responsible for obtaining copies of SOFTWARE

TECHNOLOGY and accepts
       the SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY "AS IS".

3.2     DIGITAL is under no obligation to supply SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY,

documentation, error corrections or updates to the SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY


if or when they become available, or to provide training, support or


consulting for the SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY.


4   WARRANTY DISCLAIMER/LIMITATION OF LIABILITY

DIGITAL DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO ANY SOFTWARE

TECHNOLOGY  LICENSED TO CUSTOMER HEREUNDER, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED

WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS.  IN NO EVENT SHALL  DIGITAL


BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL  DAMAGES OR ANY


DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE OR DATA, WHETHER IN AN


ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY INFRINGEMENT  OR


OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH  THE USE


OR PERFORMANCE OF ANY SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY LICENSED HEREUNDER.


5  INDEMNITY

CUSTOMER will hold DIGITAL harmless against all liabilities, demands,


damages, expenses, or losses arising out of use by CUSTOMER of

SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY or information furnished under this Agreement.


6  TERM AND TERMINATION

6.1     This Agreement shall be effective until otherwise terminated.

Either party may terminate this Agreement at any time upon 30 days

written notice.

6.2     If CUSTOMER shall fail to perform or observe any of the terms

and conditions to be performed or observed by it under this Agreement,


DIGITAL may in its sole discretion thereafter elect to terminate this


Agreement, and this Agreement and all the obligations owed and rights


granted herein to CUSTOMER shall immediately terminate.

6.3     The parties agree that the termination of this Agreement shall

not release either party from any other liability which shall have

accrued to the other party at the time such termination becomes

effective, nor affect in any manner the survival of any right, duty or


obligation of either party.

6.4     In the event of any termination of this Agreement for any

reason, CUSTOMER shall delete all original and all whole or partial

copies and derivatives of the SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY from his or her

computer system. CUSTOMER further shall cease to use and distribute

the SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY in all forms immediately upon the date of

termination.


7  GENERAL TERMS

7.1     This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the

Commonwealth of Massachusetts.

7.2     This Agreement imposes personal obligations on CUSTOMER.

CUSTOMER shall not assign any rights under this Agreement not

specifically transferable by its terms without the written consent of


DIGITAL.

7.3     The SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY obtained under this Agreement may be

subject to US and other government export control regulations.

CUSTOMER assures that it will comply with these regulations whenever


it exports or re-exports a controlled product or technical data

obtained from DIGITAL or any product produced directly from the

SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY.

7.4     The waiver of a breach hereunder may be effected only by a

writing signed by the waiving party and shall not constitute a waiver


of any other breach.

7.5     CUSTOMER acknowledges that he has read this Agreement,

understands it and agrees to be bound by its terms and further agrees


that it is the complete and exclusive statement of the  Agreement

between the parties which supersedes all communications and

understanding between the parties relating to the subject matter of

this Agreement.



When sending e-mail, please use [email protected]


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From [email protected] Wed Dec 11 09:15:21 1996
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Hi,

You shouldn't possibly know where to obtain the head alignment section
from the RP06 Users Guide. The problem is that Ludd (The computer society
at Lulea University) has a KS (2020) with an unreadable red-pack. We
have the disk alignment kit, but no manuals on how to use it. We will not
trash our last RP06 just because we made some foolish error either.
Any help would be highly appreciated.

Best Regards,
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   The following comes from Dit Morse, the original author of PIP,
   and thus reported from first-hand knowledge.  The "Ken" is Ken
   Olsen, and we're talking PDP-6 pre-ship days here!  - dlm

=================================

> From [email protected] Thu Dec 19 18:26:21 1996

> Ken took a group of potential customers into the Bldg 12 PDP-6
> lab in the preship days to give a quick demo - using PIP (anyone
> can use it, right) to demonstrate how easy it was to transfer
> data between any media.  Requested a transfer from the line printer to
> DECTape ;-).  Got the message

>       "You can't do input from the line printer, you gnerd."

> Wasn't amused.  Let us know.

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   The following comes from Dit Morse, the original author of PIP,
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   Olsen, and we're talking PDP-6 pre-ship days here!  - dlm

=================================

> From [email protected] Thu Dec 19 18:26:21 1996

> Ken took a group of potential customers into the Bldg 12 PDP-6
> lab in the preship days to give a quick demo - using PIP (anyone
> can use it, right) to demonstrate how easy it was to transfer
> data between any media.  Requested a transfer from the line printer to
> DECTape ;-).  Got the message

>       "You can't do input from the line printer, you gnerd."

> Wasn't amused.  Let us know.

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From: Don Kassebaum <[email protected]>
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       Are there any DECsystems 10 or 20 still running?

       Are there any tops20 emulator available?

       Thanks, Dak