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Logan Act against Senator Van Hollen? Nope! [1]

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Date: 2025-04-17

As people know, I am not an attorney.

I studied math as everybody here knows.

Nevertheless:

Part of the Logan Act

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

"Redress of injury", Senator might not have been part of a CODEL, but he is still a sitting US Senator checking on a constituent wrongly abducted there and his wife and child are citizens, Supreme Court ordered Trump 9-0 to "facilitate" and "effectuate" his return. Is Trump saying, "I'm defying SCOTUS?"

Bukele through his VP had refused Senator Van Hollen entrance, but allowed Republican Senators entrance. Logan Act them too? Did Bukele get a call from Trump to allow the meeting?

Roger Stone after being part of the insurrection and other crimes has credibility? and MAGA credibility? Nope.

Is Bondi going to keep digging themselves deeper here?

If you look at anything other than top line numbers and you conduct more than a superficial analysis, you'll realize this immigration thing is the winner for Trump the right thinks it is.

"Our internal polling shows that when voters are given specifics about who would be deported, they prefer allowing people to stay over being deported by overwhelming numbers.

Immigration hub

Example 1:

"Those who are regularly employed and paying taxes (73% of voters overall say all/most should be able to stay in the U.S., 20% say all/most should be deported; 76% stay, 19% deport among Hispanic voters)"

Example 2:

"Those who are married to a U.S. citizen or legal resident (73% stay, 18% deport overall; 78% stay, 17% deport among Hispanic voters)"

Example 3:

"Those who are Dreamers, who came to the United States as children (69% stay, 21% deport overall; 76% stay, 20% deport among Hispanic voters)"

Example 4:

"Those who have passed a background check and have no criminal record (69% stay, 25% deport overall; 77% stay, 18% deport among Hispanic voters)"

Example 5:

"Those who are family caregivers to a spouse/child who is a citizen/legal resident (68% stay, 22% deport overall; 76% stay, 17% deport among Hispanic voters)"



"Pew explains that 'a better practice is to offer respondents a choice between alternative statements' as 'less educated and less informed respondents have a greater tendency to agree with such statements. This phenomenon is likely happening on mass deportation polling, where many voters are being asked whether they support a policy they may not fully understand"



"Our (Gallup) polling found that 70% of Americans favored providing such immigrants the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements."

Gallup polling on immigration

Pew "all should be deported 32%", "some should be deported 51%", and "none should be deported 16%"

Polling on immigration

I wrote before I pay attention to G Elliot Morris. Here is what he says:

"Trump's immigration agenda is not popular

Polling shows most Americans oppose the details of enforcement and the president’s most extreme tactics"

G Elliot Morris

82% of Americans believe Trump should obey court rulings even if he disagrees. SCOTUS ruled 9-0 Trump must "facilitate " and"effectuate " Kilmar Abrego-Garcia's return after being wrongfully abducted.

Kilmar was here legally. He has never been convicted of any crime. He wasn't given due process. The claims that he was a member of MS-13 have been exposed by Greg Sargent as without foundation or actual evidence.



Greg Sargent with The New Republic wrote an article with new information and was interviewed by Andrew Egger of The Bulwark. Here is a transcript of what Greg Sargent said: One cop picked him on suspicion of being in the company of gang members. In the process of being detained by ICE he was detained by Prince William County Police Department. It is a suburb of Washington DC, just north East and Southeast of DC. This was in the northern part in Hyattsville. He was picked up at a Home Depot in Hyattsville. So what happened was the detective then questioned him and asked him if he had ties to MS-13. He said no. They transferred him to ICE. He was not charged with a crime of any kind related to gang activity. He was only transferred to ICE by virtue of the fact that he was in the country illegally. He had come in 2011 at the age of 16 from El Salvador. This is where we get to what the Trump administration is arguing. At the time of Prince George's county filled out what's known as a gang field interview sheet. That is what the detective thinks the evidence of this man's supposed ties to MS-13. You have heard the evidence talked about endlessly. One of the pieces of evidence is that he was wearing a Chicago Bulls jacket and hoodie that was doctored up and is supposedly in a gang like way. The other is that confidential source said that he was a member of MS-13, the Westerns but that happens to operate in New York which is not a place he has ever lived. But the core thing here and I'll try to make this quick is that all this comes from this gang field information sheet filled out by this one detective. And we were able to establish that the detective subsequently was suspended for serious professional misconduct concerning confidential police info with a sex worker. He was ultimately indicted for that in 2012, put on probation and so the short version is that casts a whole lot of doubt on the core piece of evidence that the administration is claiming links him to MS-13.



His wife responded to the civil protection crap Bondi brought up.





Trump administration violated a court ruling from 2019 in abducting him to there. Multiple people in the Trump administration, not just Erez Reuveni, whom the Trump administration promoted to be the acting deputy director of immigration litigation, admitted that abducting Kilmar there was a mistake, including Dean John Sauer, Trump's Solicitor General.

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