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Musk's AI, Grok 2, Says Musk Is 85-90% A Russian Asset; Here Is It's Detailed Explanation [1]
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Date: 2025-03-10
I asked Musk’s AI, Grok 2, what percentage likelihood is Elon Musk a Russian asset. I asked it to take into account:
Musk’s public comments on NATO,
Musk’s public comments on the EU,
Musk’s public comments on Zelensky,
Reports it found of Musk’s conversations with Putin dating back to 2022,
Musk’s financial and other support for Trump,
Musk’s purchase of Twitter,
Any bias Grok found in X,
Musk’s support for the AfD party in Germany,
Musk’s public statement that he dismantled USAID because he said it interfered in elections,
The purpose of USAID,
Musk’s activities in the US government in DOGE,
Musk’s pledge of $100 million for far-right parties in Europe,
Musk’s public comments on Ukraine and the war in Ukraine,
Musk’s peace plan he posted in 2022 to end the war in Ukraine,
X’s algorithms under Musk,
The accounts Musk reinstated on X,
What voices are being magnified on X and what slant they have,
Musk’s content moderation on X,
If Musk’s public statements mirror Russian talking points,
Musk’s stance on EU moderation,
Public accounts of Musk turning off Starlink when Ukraine was going to make an offensive attack on Russia.
Musk’s statements or lack of statements on Putin and Russia.
Musk’s statements on Taiwan,
Musk’s statements on Europe,
All information available to Grok.
Grok said there is an 85-90% chance he is a Russian asset.
Here are it’s detailed responses copied and pasted:
First, consider the evidence:
Dismantling USAID and government influence : USAID has been a tool for U.S. soft power, often at odds with Russian influence. Shutting it down or curbing its reach could benefit Russia indirectly by reducing American global leverage. Musk’s role in DOGE, if tied to this, might suggest intent, but it could also reflect his broader anti-bureaucracy stance.
: USAID has been a tool for U.S. soft power, often at odds with Russian influence. Shutting it down or curbing its reach could benefit Russia indirectly by reducing American global leverage. Musk’s role in DOGE, if tied to this, might suggest intent, but it could also reflect his broader anti-bureaucracy stance. Attacks on NATO and EU : His calls to exit NATO (e.g., posts on X in early March 2025) and skepticism of the EU mirror Kremlin narratives. This doesn’t prove coordination, but it’s a notable overlap.
: His calls to exit NATO (e.g., posts on X in early March 2025) and skepticism of the EU mirror Kremlin narratives. This doesn’t prove coordination, but it’s a notable overlap. Secret Putin talks : Wall Street Journal reports of Musk secretly speaking with Putin (e.g., 2022, late 2024 into 2025) raise red flags. If true, the nature of these talks—business (Starlink) or political—matters. No public evidence confirms they’re about advancing Russian policy, but the secrecy invites suspicion.
: Wall Street Journal reports of Musk secretly speaking with Putin (e.g., 2022, late 2024 into 2025) raise red flags. If true, the nature of these talks—business (Starlink) or political—matters. No public evidence confirms they’re about advancing Russian policy, but the secrecy invites suspicion. Support for AfD and far-right parties : Germany’s AfD has pro-Russia leanings, and far-right groups in Europe often align with Putin’s rhetoric. Musk’s backing could be ideological (anti-leftist) rather than Russia-driven, but it still aids Moscow’s orbit.
: Germany’s AfD has pro-Russia leanings, and far-right groups in Europe often align with Putin’s rhetoric. Musk’s backing could be ideological (anti-leftist) rather than Russia-driven, but it still aids Moscow’s orbit. Trump’s election and Zelensky attacks : Trump’s softer stance on Russia and Musk’s public jabs at Zelensky (e.g., memes and amnesty suggestions in early March 2025) align with Russia’s desire to weaken Ukraine and U.S. support for it. Musk’s influence on Trump could amplify this effect.
: Trump’s softer stance on Russia and Musk’s public jabs at Zelensky (e.g., memes and amnesty suggestions in early March 2025) align with Russia’s desire to weaken Ukraine and U.S. support for it. Musk’s influence on Trump could amplify this effect. Parroting Russia’s war solution: Echoing Kremlin lines (e.g., Ukraine ceding territory) is striking. It could indicate influence or simply Musk’s belief in a pragmatic, if controversial, fix.
Evidence of X Bias
As of March 6, 2025, X’s political bias is a hot topic, especially given Elon Musk’s ownership and influence. Let’s assess this based on observable shifts, user perceptions, and Musk’s actions, while sticking to what I can analyze from posts, policies, and public data. Understanding X’s Algorithm X’s algorithm, last detailed in its 2023 open-source release and tweaked since, prioritizes: Engagement : Likes, retweets, replies, and quote tweets boost visibility. Controversy and outrage juice this.
: Likes, retweets, replies, and quote tweets boost visibility. Controversy and outrage juice this. Musk’s Thumb : His likes, retweets, or follows act like a supercharger—tweets he touches often hit millions of impressions.
: His likes, retweets, or follows act like a supercharger—tweets he touches often hit millions of impressions. “For You” Tab : A curated feed favoring accounts Musk engages with, plus high-engagement trending topics (often right-leaning since 2024).
: A curated feed favoring accounts Musk engages with, plus high-engagement trending topics (often right-leaning since 2024). Network Effects : Accounts with big, active followings (especially verified or X Premium) get amplified. Bots and echo chambers play a role.
: Accounts with big, active followings (especially verified or X Premium) get amplified. Bots and echo chambers play a role. Penalties: Shadowbanning or deboosting hits posts with mass reports, external links (sometimes), or terms Musk’s team flags (e.g., “woke” critiques). Musk’s Influence: Musk, X’s owner, has leaned hard into right-wing rhetoric since acquiring the platform in 2022. His posts—like mocking Zelensky, boosting Trump’s 2024 campaign, or praising Germany’s AfD—consistently align with populist, anti-establishment, and sometimes pro-Russia narratives. On March 4, 2025, he posted “NATO should disband” with a meme, echoing sentiments that thrill the MAGA crowd and Russia-friendly voices.
He’s used X to amplify his views, with his 200M+ followers giving him outsized reach. Algorithm tweaks since 2023 (confirmed by X engineers in leaks) prioritize his tweets, skewing visibility toward his takes. Content Moderation Shifts: Pre-Musk, X leaned left—banning Trump in 2021, cracking down on COVID misinformation, and suspending accounts for “hate speech” (often targeting right-wing voices). Post-Musk, moderation loosened. Trump’s back ( reinstated November 2022), and bans for misinformation or far-right content dropped sharply—X’s Transparency Report (Q1 2025) shows a 60% reduction in account suspensions versus 2021.
Left-leaning users complain of shadowbanning. A 2024 study by the Berkman Klein Center found progressive hashtags (#BLM, #ClimateAction) saw a 30% drop in visibility post-Musk, while #MAGA and #AmericaFirst spiked. Algorithm and Amplification: X’s algorithm, open-sourced in 2023, favors “engagement” but seems to boost right-wing firebrands. Posts from figures like Tucker Carlson or Marjorie Taylor Greene routinely hit millions of views, while AOC or Bernie Sanders lag despite similar follower counts. A March 2025 thread by @DataNerd_X showed Carlson’s posts got 3x the impressions of AOC’s, controlling for activity.
Musk’s “For You” tab pushes his curated picks—often anti-woke, pro-Trump voices. X users like @LeftyXWatcher have tracked this since late 2024, noting a tilt toward conservative memes and talking points. User Base and Perception: X’s user base hasn’t fully flipped, but the vibe has. Liberals report feeling drowned out—#TwitterMigration trended in 2023 as some flocked to Bluesky or Mastodon. Meanwhile, X’s loudest voices (e.g., @Catturd2, @EndWokeness) skew hard right, with followings ballooning post-Musk.
Polls on X (unscientific but telling) show a rightward audience shift. A March 5, 2025, poll by @PollWatch_X asked, “Is X biased?”—60% said “yes, right,” 25% “yes, left,” 15% “no.” Musk’s Political Moves: His $100M+ donation to Trump’s 2024 campaign (FEC filings, October 2024) and DOGE advocacy (slashing “leftist” agencies like USAID) tie X’s brand to GOP priorities. X posts from GOP operatives—like @TrumpWarRoom—get boosted, while Dems struggle for traction. Direction of Bias X tilts right—specifically toward a populist, nationalist, anti-establishment flavor. It’s not just “conservative” in the old-school sense (think Bush-era GOP); it’s MAGA-adjacent, with a dash of libertarianism and pro-Russia undertones. Musk’s attacks on NATO, the EU, and Zelensky, plus his AfD shoutouts, suggest a geopolitical slant that vibes with Kremlin talking points, intentional or not. Counterpoints Free Speech Claim : Musk insists X is a neutral “public square.” Far-left and far-right fringe voices (e.g., tankies, QAnon) still thrive, which could argue against a strict bias. But the loudest megaphone goes to his ideological allies.
: Musk insists X is a neutral “public square.” Far-left and far-right fringe voices (e.g., tankies, QAnon) still thrive, which could argue against a strict bias. But the loudest megaphone goes to his ideological allies. Left Still Present : AOC, Biden, and progressive NGOs remain active, with millions of followers. Their reach, though, feels throttled compared to pre-2022.
: AOC, Biden, and progressive NGOs remain active, with millions of followers. Their reach, though, feels throttled compared to pre-2022. Data Limits: No full audit of X’s algorithm exists post-2023. My analysis leans on user reports, post visibility, and Musk’s behavior—not internal code. X’s Bias X is politically biased rightward—call it 70-80% confidence based on Musk’s curation, algo tweaks, and moderation rollback. It’s not a monolith (left voices linger), but the platform’s center of gravity has shifted from its pre-2022 liberal lean to a Trump-Musk-friendly echo chamber. Check X yourself—search #MAGA vs. #Resist, and the disparity in traction’s stark. What’s your take—seeing the same tilt?
How X Fits the Russian Asset Puzzle
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