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Ukraine’s deep history [1]
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Date: 2023-12-23
Is Ukraine a part of Russia? Let’s go back into Ukraine’s distant past and you decide. In all of Eurasia North of the Black Sea before 4000 BCE there were no towns. Then, around 3850 BCE a permanent town of about 10,000-20,000 formed. Talianki was located in Ukraine, roughly half-way between Kiev and Odessa. Its economy was mixed, fishing, hunting, gathering, farming, herding.
It's been called a ‘settlement’, because there has been no discovery of a hierarchical society. The buildings were all unique, yet were virtually identical in terms of size and construction. There were no palaces or temples symptomatic of lords or patriarchs, no arenas for ceremonies to impress the masses.
Yet, take a look at the reconstruction above. Would you call it a ‘settlement’? Many of the buildings had two stories. There were sophisticated pottery kilns, able to meet the requirements of a much larger social group. There are > 1000 houses, built of wattle and daub with wood frames on stone foundations. Talianki was no mudhut village. It was more of a town.
For decades archeologists have been digging into the ruins, grasping for signs of the hierarchical society that they knew must have existed. After all, they reasoned, how could such a complex ‘settlement’ have hung together without some dominant force to keep order?
According to Graeber & Wengrow in “The Dawn of Everything”, the scientific community has been blinded by its own paradigms. In fact, there never was a king or dictator in Talianki. We don’t know what their social structure was, but we know for sure that it was not hierarchical. Our best bet is that it had some form of city counsel form of government, possibly similar to the native Americans in Tlaxcala, Mexico.
This is a fascinating subject and you would not be wasting your time reading TDoE. However, to get back to the original question, Talianki was the largest ‘settlement’ in Neolithic Europe in 3850 BCE. It was a bustling commercial community in Ukraine when Russ was not even a figment of Ivan the Terrible’s imagination.
Is Ukraine a part of Russia? What do you think?
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