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How Do We Deal With Progressives Determined To Not Vote For Biden? [1]
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Date: 2023-11-08
Recently, I got into a bit of online sparring on some far left forums with progressives who refuse to be convinced how important it is for Donald Trump and the Republican Party be defeated at the polls next November. Their argument goes something like this:
”Both parties are bought and paid for by their corporate donors, so it doesn’t really matter who I vote for in the next election. Our entire system of governance is inherently racist and classist. It ALL needs to be dismantled. The sooner the better.”
When I point out that while on some level that may be true, the Republican Party has morphed into a dangerous fascist death cult that needs to be kept as far away from the levers of power as possible, and the only way to do that is by re-electing Joe Biden, they counter with:
“Joe Biden is a war criminal. He and the Democratic Party are funding a genocide in Gaza. How can you support that? Fascism? We’re ALREADY living under a fascist oligarchy! So Trump…Biden…what difference does it make? If Trump wins, it’s the Democrat’s fault for being a party that bends over for lobbyists instead of representing the people and trying to force feed us four more years of doddering old Joe Biden. Maybe losing will teach them that they actually need to listen to their voting base.”
When I try to explain how dangerous and wrong this take is, that if Republicans manage to seize power there won’t BE a next election, I get accused of fear mongering. They rant about “dismantling the corrupt duopoly”, how they need to be “inspired”, and Democrats need to “earn their vote”. They’re determined to throw it all away on their favorite 3rd party whack job or just sit things out in disgust. I’ve tried to explain in every way I can think of that while the Democrats absolutely leave much to be desired, Biden has actually done some great things, and the alternative is exponentially worse. Nothing works on these people. It’s exhausting. They’re as bad as the MAGAs when it comes to being impervious to facts and reason. It’s like trying to explain to a four year old why Santa didn’t bring them a pony.
I’m at a loss. This, plus Gaza, the ever-abysmal poll numbers, and the media’s relentless obsession with his age all have me very concerned for Biden’s reelection chances. The “Never Biden” numbers may be small, but they aren’t insignificant, and I’m worried that their childish, simplistic idealism (as well not seeming to have a clear understanding of how government actually works) will result in disaster.
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