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More Previous Guy logical fallacies in Helsinki: Putin or the US Intel Community? [1]
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Date: 2023-07-13
50 shades of “graymail”, as we remember Trump’s capitulation to Putin, plus his confiscation of translator notes. The comparisons between Trump's disastrous presser in Helsinki 5 years ago & Biden's currently couldn't be more stark...
Biden in Helsinki 2023: “Putin’s already lost the war in Ukraine. There is no possibility of him winning.”
Trump in Helsinki 2018: “President Putin says it’s not Russia. I don’t see any reason why it [interference in the 2016 U.S. election] would be.”
x 5 years ago in Helsinki, Trump sided with Putin over our own U.S. intelligence. In contrast, today in that same room President Biden marks the expansion of an alliance standing against the aggression of the Russian leader. Democracy stands stronger today because of @POTUS. pic.twitter.com/wufzwUQAEU — The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) July 13, 2023
“Putin’s already lost the war,” Biden declared at a brief trip-ending news conference. “Putin has a real problem — how does he move from here? What does he do? And so, the idea that there’s going to be, what vehicle is used — he could end the war tomorrow. He could just say, ‘I’m out.’”
Biden left Europe in a jubilant mood, fresh off essentially welcoming Sweden into the alliance and displaying transatlantic unity that is deeply personal to the president. A day earlier, in the week’s centerpiece speech from the NATO summit in Lithuania, Biden defended his policies and rallied democracies to keep up the fight against tyranny in Ukraine and around the world. And he was able to help ease concerns from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, who over the course of the Vilnius summit appeared to abandon his fury that NATO was slow-walking his country’s admission to the alliance. www.politico.com/...
When Donald Trump arrived at the Finnish Presidential Palace in July 2018, he met privately with Putin alone for two hours. The two leaders’ translators were the only other people in the room. No notes were taken. Trump then stood next to Putin during a press conference and praised his Russian counterpart as a “good competitor” and called the U.S. itself “foolish” for allowing its relationship with Russia to fray.
When asked if he believed the detailed information collected by his own intelligence agencies showing how Russia had hacked Democratic National Committee computers and intentionally released emails to interfere with the 2016 elections, Trump sided with Putin. “I have great confidence in my intelligence people,” Trump said, “but I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today.”
Trump’s refusal to rebuke Putin and his unwillingness to defend the conclusions of his own intelligence agencies reverberated through the country and Europe. For European allies, it was a public demonstration that Trump wouldn’t stand up to Putin’s actions and sowed doubts that Trump would be willing to back up the U.S. obligations under Article 5 of NATO’s treaty to defend Europe in the face of a Russian attack.
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