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Previous Guy freaks about J6 referrals to DoJ, accountability under foot in social media [1]
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Date: 2022-12-12
Special Counsel subpoenas GA Secretary of State, because even symbolic things matter. GOP members who rebuffed Jan. 6 panel may face referral to ethics panel.
The special counsel is seeking “any and all communications in any form” between June 1, 2020, and Jan. 20, 2021, “to, from or involving” Trump, his campaign, lawyers and aides, including former campaign officials such as Bill Stepien and Justin Clark and lawyers John Eastman, Boris Epshteyn, L. Lin Wood, Sidney Powell and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, according to the subpoena, which was obtained by The Associated Press.
The subpoena, which is dated Friday and was received by Raffensperger’s office Monday, follows others served last week in several states and counties. Like those other locations, Georgia was a target of Trump and his allies as they sought to overturn his loss in the 2020 election.
WATCH: A criminal referral from the Jan. 6 select committee for the DOJ is “largely symbolic,” @preetbharara says. @chucktodd : Does it add negatively to the political stew? @PreetBharara : "You could argue that. I don't know why they feel the need to do it." pic.twitter.com/MWpcFlSJEp
"All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state."
It is almost like he is worried about going to jail. Trump was at least worried enough to flip, the fck, out on Truth Social last night, perhaps paranoid now hearing about congressional referrals from the J6th Committee to DOJ.
Trump had some random thoughts to share:
These are the instigators that have caused a division, even a great divide, in our Country – and then they blame others. The people are wise to them
Trump is the most divisive person this country has seen in our lifetimes. And then he gets to flipping out over the referral.
www.politicalflare.com/...
x MADDOW: THERE IS NO MAGIC BULLET. Part of the lesson of the history of prosecuting sedition during WWII, you can't count on the justice department alone. And yes, there will be accountability. 1/ — Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) November 30, 2022
Getting the seditious conspiracy conviction will change the way we talk about the history of January 6th forever. But it can't just be left to the criminal justice system alone. There has to be political accountability. There has to be activism and journalism. 2/
The voters need to hold people accountable. Political parties need to hold people accountable. And the courts need to hold the line as far as criminal behavior by these folks. Everything has to happen all at once, and everybody needs to pull in the same direction. 3/
And to do that, we all have to recognize when fascism as afoot, and when there is an anti-democratic movement in this country, particularly one linked to people with real political power that has designs on overturning our system of government. END/
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x This is cute I guess but I'd prefer Jim Jordan receive a criminal referral to the DOJ for ignoring a January 6th Committee Subpoena. — Bruno Amato (@BrunoAmato_1) December 12, 2022
Thomas B. Edsall’s opinion piece in the NY Times suggests that GOP sedition makes no difference in 2024, perhaps even including the indictment of Trump. He asks:
How, in a matter of less than a decade, could this once-proud country have evolved to the point that there is a serious debate over choosing a presidential candidate who is a lifelong opportunist, a pathological and malignant narcissist, a sociopath, a serial liar, a philanderer, a tax cheat who does not pay his bills and a man who socializes with Holocaust deniers, who has pardoned his criminal allies, who encouraged a violent insurrection, who, behind a wall of bodyguards, is a coward and who, without remorse, continually undermines American democracy?
Most of those I contacted downplayed the possibility that Trump would run as a third-party candidate if he were rejected as the Republican nominee, citing his aversion to losing and the logistical and financial difficulties of setting up a third-party bid. Marc Hetherington, a political scientist at the University of North Carolina, disagreed.
I asked Hetherington: “If a DeSantis or Youngkin were to defeat Trump for the nomination, would either of them alienate Trump’s supporters, or could either one keep those voters in the tent?”
Hetherington replied: “As long as Trump doesn’t run as a third-party candidate or actively tell his supporters to stay home, I suspect they’ll still vote Republican. What motivates them is their hatred of the Democrats.”
But, Hetherington wrote, “There is every reason to think that Trump might actually do those things” — tell his loyalists to stay home on Election Day or run as a third-party candidate — “if he’s not the nominee”:
If he has proved anything over the years, it is that Trump cares about Trump. In deciding to contest the 2020 vote, he asked “What do I have to lose?” He didn’t think at all about what the country had to lose. If he thinks he benefits from splitting the party — even if doing so just makes him feel better because he gets to settle an old score — then he’ll do it.
Westwood noted that “it is not clear what power Trump will have to fight with if he doesn’t get the nomination in 2024, especially if he happens to be in a prison cell, which is increasingly likely.”
In fact, however, conviction and imprisonment would not, under the Constitution, preclude a Trump candidacy and might in fact provide additional motivation, both for him and his most zealous supporters. Zijia Song, a reporter at Bloomberg, laid out the possible criminal charges Trump could face on Nov. 15 and then asked, “Could any of this disqualify him as a presidential candidate?”
Her answer:
Broadly speaking, no. Article II of the U.S. Constitution, which lays out qualifications for the presidency, says nothing about criminal accusations or convictions. Trump opponents see two possible avenues to challenging his eligibility, however. One is a federal law barring the removal or destruction of government records: It says anyone convicted of the offense is disqualified from federal office. This could conceivably apply to Trump if — and this is a big if — he’s charged and convicted for taking classified documents from the White House. The other is the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which says that nobody can hold a seat in Congress or “any office, civil or military,” if they “engaged in insurrection or rebellion.”
Which gets to the larger question that supersedes all the ins and outs of the maneuvering over the Republican presidential nomination and the future of the party…
www.nytimes.com/...
Twitter Files Part 5 reveals staffers who didn't believe Trump violated 'incitement' policy AMAZING!!!
x One Twitter worker trying to quit spent two days looking for her manager, whose identity she no longer knew because so many people had quit. After finally finding her supervisor, she tendered her resignation. The next day, her supervisor also quit.
https://t.co/1JakWs1O1g — The New York Times (@nytimes) November 18, 2022
"With Twitter's acquisition what you're seeing is... most of the people that are being re-platformed... were removed for a reason and it usually was around hate speech and extremism. Those were probably the two main drivers" —
Many of the company’s troubles can be traced to Mr. Musk’s takeover in late October. Since then, advertisers — which provide 90 percent of Twitter’s revenue — have paused some spending on the platform, citing concerns about how Mr. Musk might change the service. The billionaire, a self-described “free speech absolutist,” has reinstated banned accounts and dropped at least one misinformation policy. Hate speech on Twitter has soared in recent weeks, researchers found.
Twitter’s advertising business has become so fraught that it has started offering brands additional incentives. Some brands are committing only to promotions for events, like the Super Bowl, with heavy discounts or clauses that allow them to back out for any reason, according to internal documents and three people familiar with the efforts. Automakers are among the most concerned advertisers, with General Motors raising questions about whether Twitter’s data would be shared with Mr. Musk’s car company, Tesla, three people said.
“There hasn’t been any level of trust from us with Twitter, especially with the whiplash we’ve experienced over the last four weeks,” said Ellie Bamford, the head of global media at R/GA, a creative agency. Last month, IPG, R/GA’s parent and one of the world’s largest advertising companies, recommended that its clients pause their advertising on Twitter.
x “.. Twitter’s U.S. ad revenue was running at 80 percent below internal expectations for that week, three people with knowledge of the figures said.”
@nytimes @MikeIsaac #WorldCup
https://t.co/tHWCcqjtXA — Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) December 3, 2022
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