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Truth Sandwiches: "Moms for Liberty" Haters [1]

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Date: 2022-11-22

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Countering the Disinformation

Our first problem in dealing with the massively deluded via Truth Sandwiches is finding common ground with them that they would accept. Not just Equality; the General Welfare; Liberty and Justice for all. OK, with this lot, we have to agree on the general idea of keeping children safe. We, on our side, can certainly agree with that, even if we and they cannot agree on what the real dangers are.

So then we want to call out their hypocrisy. Easy-peasy, except that we want to do it in a way that will give them pause. At least some of them.

Now, I haven’t talked with any of them, so this is guesswork. We are dealing with people who have had to excuse all of the ideas below, and also Trumpism.

Is all of the nasty sex in the Bible grooming? (incest, rape, sex slavery…) Many ex-Christians say that’s why they left, but there are many other reasons.

Do pedophile priests and ministers count?

CRT neither breaks your bones nor picks your pocket. What does it do to you?

Christians are driving millions of their children away every year. What do the children say is wrong?

Evangelicals talk a lot about children’s ministries and what parents should do, but I have not observed any of them talking seriously about children’s views of churches.

For example, this nibbles around the edges, and then flatly rejects what it finds.

x Only 31% of Catholic teens in the U.S. believe that “only one religion is true.”



Catholic parents, teach your children from a young age the Church’s perennial and fundamental teaching:



Extra ecclesiam nulla salus!



Poll Source: https://t.co/HMDFVw4apJ pic.twitter.com/q6BmGUWmIQ — Eric Sammons (@EricRSammons) September 21, 2020

This belief that only believers can be moral flatly contradicts their Saint Paul, who taught that God puts the Law into the hearts of virtuous pagans.

Pew Research: The challenges of conducting surveys of youth

Yes, it’s hard. Is that a reason not to do it?

Why don’t you do more research on youth? I get this question all the time because I do a lot of research with online teenagers. The short answer is: because surveying children under 18 is expensive and complicated. But for those interested in the slightly longer answer, keep reading. Research with minors presents some unique challenges. When we survey young people ages 12 to 17, we’re surveying minors, who legally fall into a protected class of people. By law, minors cannot consent; their parents must give consent for them (in this case to participate in the research project). The consent requirement is a legacy of the belief that people under the age of 16, 17 or 18 (to complicate matters the age of consent varies by state) are not fully equipped to make good decisions in their best interest and that youth may be unduly susceptible to coercion.

Yes, children are susceptible to coercion from parents teachers, churches, and much more. Including these Moms for Liberty.

OK, then, let’s do it.

x Every child should be safe in school. Safe from guns, safe from terrorism, safe from propaganda. But here come the self-appointed guardians of civic virtue to demonize them, their parents, their teachers, our political leaders...as vicious, demonic enemies of children. pic.twitter.com/gy2uptGWhW — Mokurai Delusion Fighter 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 (@Mokurai) November 22, 2022

x All kids should be their true selves at school. The FL “Don’t Say Gay” bill doesn’t make sense. Just part of a campaign by politicians to erase stories/identities of LGBT people. But why? ALL kids belong to be comfortable and in school! #TruthBrigade pic.twitter.com/yFZWoR0pIF — 🗳 Flip MO Blue 🌊🌊🌊🌊 (@FlipMO2Blue) March 24, 2022

x Kids should feel comfortable at school. It’s not just FL that’s trying to limit what LGBT kids can do and talk about. Not right. It’ll result in more violence against them & potentially more suicides. https://t.co/TKOTyhVpn6 #TruthBrigade #TruthBrigadeIL — Count Every Vote (@ettaw) April 13, 2022

x While Dems are "grooming" children by teaching factual history, this is how republicons are grooming their children. #Voterizer #TruthBrigade #RepublicansAreTheProblem #RepublicansAreDestroyingAmerica pic.twitter.com/kkJbv7wot0 — Loving Life in Colorado 💕 🇺🇸 (@ShowmetheLight) April 17, 2022

x [sigh] Too much disinformation, too many liars to report. Well, we do what we can. You can help us beat them up over their bogus slogans like "CRT" & "grooming".



Or you can even join us to learn more. https://t.co/FiRF9unNlI#Indivisible #TruthBrigade: Make Lying Wrong Again pic.twitter.com/mErCDJokFf — Mokurai Delusion Fighter 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 (@Mokurai) April 28, 2022

x Rs want to drown out the truth with a firehose of catchy slogans for bogus moral panics: CRT! Grooming! Propaganda! Indoctrination! Cancel Culture! Weaponized critical thinking! Voter fraud!



Ignore their frame and speak the truth. Ds want the best for everyone.#TruthBrigade pic.twitter.com/NxYRzYNzP1 — Mokurai Delusion Fighter 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 (@Mokurai) April 29, 2022

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