THE PROJECT STIGMA REPORT ON THE CONTINUING
INVESTIGATION INTO THE OCCURRENCE OF ANIMAL MUTILATIONS
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We have sought to discern the difference between the overall attitude
toward the mutilation problem now and that prevalent back in 1974 or
1975. One trend that is apparent is an unfortunate one and bodes ill
for the prospect of prompt meaningful progress in the mutilation in¬
vestigation, at least where primary data-gathering is concerned.
Throughout the term of the phenomenon - for however long it has
gone on and for however long it will continue - there have been and
there are those victimized livestock owners who do not report muti¬
lation incidents. It has been suspected by Project Stigma and others
that the percentage of unreported cases could well be substantial. We
might be fortunate to be aware of half of the mutilations that have
actually occurred. In the early-to-mid seventies, many victimized
ranchers and farmers reported mutilations to law enforcement bodies
and/or to the press, not only because of a sense of civic "duty" but
also because of a real desire to learn who was responsible, how the
mutes were accomplished, and why. But once reported, appallingly
little could be done in most cases. Some sheriffs, at least, waded in¬
to the investigation with enthusiasm; but that enthusiasm waned with
the inability to obtain substantive evidence. Many sheriffs, perhaps
most, were not overly aggressive in their investigations; and some
refused to investigate mutilations altogether.
There may not have been as many mutilations in the last couple of
years as in 1975 or 1976; but the overriding reason for the apparent
decline in mutilation activity may be the refusal of livestock owners
to report mutilations, rather than the actual drop in the number of
attacks. Stockmen fail to report because they view it as futile, a
waste of time. So why bother? The sheriff would not be any more
likely to provide answers now than in years past. And if the poten¬
tial mutilation is reported to the press, there's always a chance it
could be sensationalized or blown out of proportion, or it could pro¬
vide a busy farm or ranch family with unwanted and distracting pub¬
licity, attention or even some ridicule.
Linda Moulton Howe of KMGH-TV in Denver is the producer-writer-
director-editor of the excellent ground-breaking documentary on mu¬
tilations, "A Strange Harvest", first aired in May of 1980. While
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preparing updated material to be broadcast with "A Strange Harvest"
later this year, she has uncovered a startling number of unreported
mutilations in an area of the West that has endured mutilations in
the past. In fact, several ranchers who were victimized in years
past are being hit again in this "silent siege". We've learned of a
similar area in Kansas where many mutes have occurred but few, if
any, are ever reported. And what about other states, especially a-
reas in which mutilations have occurred steadily over the years? Are
these areas where unreported mutes are going on more the except¬
ion or the rule? The ranchers see no point in reporting their cases.
And to add to the morass, many sheriffs are simply sitting on mute
information, either not knowing what to do with it or simply being re¬
luctant to get further involved in a matter so out-of-the-ordinary and
alien to their world-view.
Hopefully public education will eventually aid us in extracting informa¬
tion from this "silent siege" of mutilations. With a number of books
and magazine articles in the works, and the hope that more people
will in time be able to see "A Strange Harvest" - perhaps this airing
out of the subject will prompt livestock owners who have suffered mu¬
tilations to report them to responsive law agencies, the press and to
the private investigations such as Project Stigma, Animal Mutilation
Probe and Study on Animal Mutilations.
Report mutilations : We depend upon our readers, from whom we have
learned of a great many cases. This Issue will go to numerous farm¬
ers, ranchers, veterinarians and sheriffs, with whom we will hope to
establish information exchanges. If you hear of a possible mutilation
in your area, even a rumor, write Project Stigma - Box 1094 - Paris,
Texas 75460 or call (214) 784-5922. K the remains are fresh, we'll
attempt to find someone in your area who can go to the site.
THE ROMMEL REPORT: The animal mutilation investigative
project of the District Attorney's office in Santa Fe, New Mexico,
under the direction of ex-FBI agent Kenneth Rommel, released its
final report in the second week of July 1980. We have not yet seen
the approx. -300-page volume, but will hope to do so before the pub¬
lication of our next issue.
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A MUTILATION DOCUMENTARY
Over the years several reporters who have become familiar with the
mutilation topic and everything that attends it have asked how it is
possible that the national media has not "latched onto" the mutilations
with more fervor or at least given the matter more attention. And we
have long wondered why someone in the broadcast-film-tape media
hasn't undertaken a documentary on the subject of animal (primarily
livestock) mutilations. It has it all - mystery, controversy, subter¬
fuge, symplicity juxtaposed with complexity, paranoia, fear and, yes,
loathing. Now - the first "full-length" mutilation documentary has
been completed (although a shorter Canadian program has been pro¬
duced; and the first-inown mutilation film was Charles Cranston's
"Death of An Appaloosa", on the "Snippy” case) - it's a very impres¬
sive piece of work titled "A Strange Harvest". The 75-minute (90-
minutes with commercials) video tape was written, produced, direct¬
ed and edited by Linda Moulton Howe, an award-winning documentar-
ian and Director of Special Projects at KMGH-TV in Denver, a Mc¬
Graw-Hill station with a CBS affiliation. It's simple, really. Just an
objective, straight-away presentation of evidence, with pro-&-con
comment & opinion from those involved in mute affairs in Wyoming,
Colorado and New Mexico. No embellishment. No sensationalism.
None required. It works because it is finely-crafted, knowledgeably -
written, sparely and effectively scored with synthesizer and superbly
photographed by Richard Lerner.
The film primarily explores the mutilation problem in Colorado, Wy¬
oming and New Mexico (certainly the hardest-hit three-state area).
Among the interviewed are names known to mutilation-followers: Da¬
vid Perkins, Tex Graves, Sheriff George Yarnell, Bill Waugh, Dr. A.
E. McChesney, Carl Whiteside, Senator Harrison Schmitt, Gabe Val¬
dez, Robert Schoenfeld and, yes, Kenneth Rommel. Laser surgery is
discussed and demonstrated by Dr. Arlen Myers of Denver. Ufolo¬
gist Richard Sigismond of Boulder, Colorado offers commentary, as
does a very effective Lou Girodo, Chief Investigator for the District
Attorney’s office in Trinidad, Colorado. The helicopter connection is
briefly explored at the Army’s Fort Carson; and livestock removal
service owner Drexel Lawson talks of unreported mutilated carcasses
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he has retrieved. Dr. R. Leo Sprinkle of the University of Wyoming
guides two subjects through hypnotic regression sessions and gleans
details of their experiences. First, Pat McGuire, a Wyoming rancher,
who (with his relatives) had been exposed to events suggestive of a
UFO-mutilation link. Then - Judy Doraty, a woman who not only des¬
cribes her apparent abduction onto a UFO in Texas, but her obser¬
vance of a calf on board the craft as it was mutilated and samples
were taken from it by the UFO occupants (we referred briefly to this
case on p. 10 of STIGMATA No. 5). In the May 1973 incident, Mrs.
Doraty and other members of her family, while driving between Web¬
ster and Alta Loma, Texas (south of Houston), observed a UFO that
followed their car. They watched as a calf was "sucked" up through
a beam of light (in which dust & debris could be seen swirling) to¬
ward the craft. Somehow, Mrs. Doraty found herself - or at least
her consciousness - on board the UFO, where "little men" perform¬
ed experiments on the calf. Then, as she is guided through her re¬
call by Dr. Sprinkle, Mrs. Doraty finds that her daughter Cindy is
on board with her, and the ufonauts begin to examine Cindy. Captur¬
ed in "A Strange Harvest" is Mrs. Doraty's very real anguish when
she fears that they may do to Cindy what was done to the calf. All
ends well, though, and both women have moved to other states. Ef¬
forts are being made to obtain objective substantiation for the Dora¬
ty case. The investigation continues, although Cindy remains reluc¬
tant to relive her experience under hypnosis.
"Harvest" can easily be criticized for the "good stuff' left out, but no
75-minute work can do more than scratch the surface. And Ms. Howe
has been accused of leaning too heavily toward a UFO/mute link in
lieu of other "evidence" suggesting possible "terrestrial" causation.
But, if an apparent UFO/mute link is suggested by events, it should
not be ignored.
"Harvest" was first aired in Denver in May and was shown (and pro¬
voked considerable interest) to gathered conferees at the 1980 Mutual
UFO Network Symposium near Houston in June Oust down the road
from the scene of the Doraty experience). We hope that anyone with
any interest in this phenomenon will eventually be able to see "A
Strange Harvest". Congratulations to Linda Howe and her crew for
a very commendable achievement.
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Mutes: A Global Phenomenon
While mutilation attacks on animals have continued wl
abeyance in the United States and Canada, Project StJ.
attempting to determine whether the variously-describ
tions” and "vampire attacks” on animals in other coun
be somehow linked to those in the U.S* and Canada, Un:
accounts are sketchy and details are few. The follow-,
mary of some of the events we have become aware of iiji
lected countries:
BRAZIL
After the flimsiest of rumors of possible animal mut:L
been filtering out of Brazil for years, it was anno
July 1979 issue of INTERNATIONAL UFO REPORTER (Evans^b
that a very "active” UFO group in Salvadore, State o
very concerned with cattle mutilation cases. Efforts
this group by writing in both English and Portugese
with success. The following summary of accounts was
us by reporter Bob Pratt of the NATIONAL ENQUIRER,
the information in February 1980 from UFO investigate
Rosario Real of Pelotas, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil,
Nelza Muller as interpreter;
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A mutilated cow was found dying on a farm near
toria (state of Rio Grande do Sul, southern BrazijL
dering Uruguay) in 1975, Its udder was gone and
near the udder had been removed, all with perfect
This occurred within 100 meters of the farmhouse
noise was heard and the dogs did not bark. Other
were in the field at the time. There was no blood
ground nor near the animal. The cow died soon afr£:
discovered. There was no examination to determine
of death.
On the same farm in 1973, more than 300 sheep wer^
dead or dying (all eventually died). They all had
ture marks, like a sting, in the necks. The first
found was surrounded by a circle of her own blood
farm manager decided to barbeque one of the animajL
the body was still warm but when he hung it up
it open he found no blood in the animal. In the s
many circles of burnt grass were found. During thi
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someone was using a truck to steal sheep. He and two nephews
took their guns and ran out but what they saw was a UFO, a
disc with many rotating lights, going up. This was about
the same time as when the sheep were killed. After the
sheep died circles of burnt grass were found. This was in
winter, probably June or July. The state's Secretary of
Agriculture went to the farm and he and his aides thought
wild dogs were responsible but no teeth marks were found
on the animals. After this, a group of farmers who jointly
owned the sheep took police dogs and guns and stationed
themselves around the flock one night. Th _ y didn't see or
hear anything but in the morning two sheep were found dead.
They happened to be the fattest sheep in the flock. One
pregnant sheep almost ready to give birth was found one
morning with a circular hole in her side and the fetus was
gone. On the same farm in 1973 a calf was found dead with
a piece of its tongue cut off and no blood in the carcass.
The face looked as though something had suctioned off all
the blood through the face*
Near Pelotas, Rio Grande do Sul, a number of pigs were
found with holes in their necks and elsewhere. They were
dead and there was no blood. It was assumed mid dogs were
responsible but none were ever seen. And, in perhaps 1975,
an ox was found with burns on it. The burns grew and even-
* tually the animal weakened and died.
Some of the above material was discussed in the Jan.-March 1980
edition of the Brazilian UFO publication QVNI D0CUMENT0 (address:
Caixa Postal 363 - Rio de Janeiro (RJ) - CEP 20,040 - Brasil).
(Credit: Dr. P.M.H* Edwards)
Another Brazilian account of interest appears in issue number 29
(1980) of the French journal 0URAN03 (address: B.P, 38, 02110
Bohain, France) in an article by editor Pierre Delval and Enrique
Banchs* The date (year) may be in question, since Luiz do Rosario
Real mentioned the case to Bob Pratt, saying it had occurred in
1963* But we'll present the version from 0URAN0S as translated by
George Andrews of Drury, Missouri:
This happened on either the 25th, 26th or 27th of October,
1970, towards the end of the afternoon (around 4:00 o'clock)
under a rather cloudy sky. Pedro Trajano Machado, who at 66
years of age does not know how to read or write, and his 23
year old son Euripides de Jesus Trindade were on their farm
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about 15 miles from Palma (in the Alegrete area, again in
the state of Rio Grande do Sul) taking care of some cattle.
They had shut up 18 head in a corral. They separated a red
Jersey cow from her month-old calf, which weighed about 60
pounds- The cow was led off to be worked on and the calf
was not tied up but left loose in the corral about fifteen
feet from where they were working. They noticed that the
other cattle had suddenly become quite nervous and upset,
and particularly the red cow. At first they didn't pay any
attention, as these cattle were used to being out in the
fields at liberty. But the cattle were getting more and
more jumpy and panicking. The red cow was bellowing as if
something was wrong and kept trying to turn her head to
look in the direction of the calf, Pedro Machado decided to
see if something was wrong with the calf, and turned his
head in that direction. The calf was also bawling at this
point, but it was no longer on the ground. It was suspend¬
ed about three feet high in the air, in its normal position,
not tipped over one way or the other. Pedro called his son
Euripides, and they both watched what happened: the calf
was being moved along parallel to the ground at this same
height of about three feet in the direction of the fields.
The other animals bellowed and gave every sign of panic.
The two witnesses remained rooted on the spot, incapable
of taking effective action. After having continued to float
about three feet above the ground for about sixty feet, the
calf began to rise vertically, so slowly that it took three
or four minutes before it was so high in the sky as to look
about a quarter of its size, at which point it suddenly dis¬
appeared as if behind a curtain, though at a height we11 be¬
low the level of the clouds. When the calf started to rise
vertically, it stopped bawling. No other phenomena v/ere no¬
ticed, such as noises, heat, wind, suspension ropes,etc.
When this extraordinary event had ended with the disappear¬
ance of the calf, the two witnesses carried on with their
work,
BOLIVIA (See n 0dd Entities" in STIGMATA Number 5, Fall-Winter
1978, pages 15-16)
COLOMBIA
Few reports originate from here. One item of interest was passed
along by adventurer-lecturer-radio personality Danhy Li ska of Med¬
ellin, Colombia, Liska has learned of a series of "vampire" at-
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tacks on humans. Apparently the victims are not killed, but blood
is removed from them, seemingly by a syringe. A "black magic"
cult is believed to be responsible.
MEXICO
As with Brazil, rumors of mutilations (of livestock ~ and humans)
have emanated from Mexico - but with almost a total lack of details
or substantiating evidence. Salvador Freixedo of Puerto Rico wrote
of his investigations in Mexico, in "Tributo de Sangre" in the pub¬
lication MUNDO DESCONOCIDO (Barcelona, Spain; May 1978), Among the
items mentioned in the article, as translated from the Spanish by
Jean Sider of Buisson, France, are the following;
Several UFO sightings (including landings and observations of occu¬
pants) Had been reported near the town of Queretaro, in the state
of Queretaro. Freixedo conducted investigations in the area, and
near the "tracks" resulting from a UFO landing, he found the with¬
ered and twisted body of a coyote. Though the carcass had been
wrung and twisted, the bones and skeleton remained essentially in¬
tact, A local resident reported finding the carcass of an opossum
in a similar condition near another UFO landing site in the area.
Also in the state of Queretaro, Freixedo encountered reports of
bloodless human infants - though no "mutilation 11 of the bodies
was involved. An unknown number of such "bloodless babies 11 were re¬
ported to Freixedo, and he was able to learn the names of two of
the mothers: Josefa Jasso de Martinez and Maria Nieves Marquez, In
both cases (as in all such reports), the mothers fell into an ab¬
normally deep sleep (some of the mothers slept for days) with the
infants at their sides. The babies - all a few days old - were then
found beside their sleeping mothers, drained of blood and without
any marks or wounds on their bodies. These events apparently occur¬
red in 1977, or shortly before that year,
PANAMA
Danny Li ska, originally from Niobrara, Nebraska, currently lives
in Medellin, Colombia where, with his wife Regina, he conducts a
popular radio program. As a result of broadcasts in which they
mentioned "classic" mutilations, Mr. Liska received several reports
of mutilation-like animal attacks in Panama, which adjoins Colom¬
bia on the northwest.
Several years ago - in the iSSO’s - "vampire killings" of cattle
(with the removal of tongues from the carcasses) were plaguing the
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Panamanian province of Chitre. A medicine man had been called up¬
on to exorcise the area and drive out the evil spirits blamed for
the attacks. Shortly thereafter, the mutilations ceased.
Liska was contacted by Jose Prieto, a university student at Pana¬
ma City's Instituto Nacional, about an incident that occurred on
the farm of his father, Ovideo Prieto, about 20 kilometers from
Panama City, on June 17, 1978. About 1:00 AM on the 17th, Senor
Prieto and his neighbors observed a brilliant light which slowly
descended to the ground on the Prieto pasture. After daylight he
went out to the pasture and found: (1) A saddle horse dead, with
both eyes and one hoof missing, but with no sign of bleeding;
(2) Two dead cows with the tongues missing, again with no sign
of bleeding. Jose reported to Liska that some internal organs
had been removed; (3) Returning to his house, Senor Prieto found
the carcass of his dog. One hind leg and the tail was missing,
again with no bleeding. Despite the appearance of the unidenti¬
fied descending object, many residents of the area seemed to sus¬
pect that a hostile neighbor may have killed the animals.
On another occasion, a woman told Liska that her brother-in-law
had become disenchanted about going into the cattle business be¬
cause of the numerous cattle mutilations taking place in Panama,
A Panamanian government veterinarian told Regina Liska that he had
examined the tongueless (with no bleeding) carcasses of livestock
that had been brought to him by pickup from the areas of Sona,
Santiago and the Tonosi Valley,.
Johnny Lloyd, a Panamanian employed in security in the American
Embassy in Panama City, reported to Danny Liska that a heifer had
been mutilated on his parents':ranch. The tongue, roots and all,
was missing and when the carcass was opened up, the heart and the
lungs were found to be missing.
Dannly Liska also furnished Project Stigma with the following 2
articles from the newspaper CRITICA of Panama City, as translated
from the Spanish:
Friday, April 27, 1979 — Reporter: Toti Urriola -
The cattle ranchers of the Cerro Cama region, in the La
Chorrera district, are greatly alarmed and concerned by
the mysterious ways in which their animals are dying. The
residents of Cerro Cama state that during the last six weeks
strange things have been happening in their fields. In the
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afternoon (usually) the cattle become spooky and
down, bellowing for no apparent reason. Everytime
happened, on the following day a dead animal is fc
corral or a field. On being examined by the owner,
no bruise or cut, is to be found on the body, nor
of blood. The only thing missing is the tongue. TH
of the dead animals have discarded the possibility
thieves, since thieves would take the whole carcas
: ers are extremely concerned because already thirte
have died in the same mysterious manner. Some ranc
gone to local priests and to religious sects, inve
the possibility of H evil spirits 1 *, Others are ale
distic people who might be poisoning the cattle,
ting out the tongues just to create a mystery.
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Saturday, June 2, 1979 - Reporter: Adan Urena -
The bellowing of the cattle has ceased. Their to
been removed, root and all, \d_th a precision that
expert veterinarians and country people alike. No
find a logical explanation for the strange situati
information was suspected of being just sensation,
peal to readers and sell more newspapers; but aftei
tigations, the authorities have confirmed the weir
Piedras Gordas is an area near La Pintada in the
of Code, where the majority of the inhabitants aih
ted to working the land for agriculture. From time
they will buy a baby cow on which they lavish care
so they may obtain milk and cheese from it. For s
months, whenever country people meet, the converse;
have centered on the curious deaths, and there is
jecture, Always in the wee hours, someone or some-tj;]
been cutting out the animals’ tongues. Always the
mal is chosen, as though carefully picked out, and
to be found at dawn, stretched out in a field. The
sign of struggle or resistance, Piedras Gordas May
bino Benitez says that the several cows that have
found dead, without tongues and bloodless have ard
theories and speculation. Some eyewitnesses affirm
they have seen a human shape or silhouette above (
cow, and when the figure appears to realize it is
served, it simply fades away.
(Some of this information regarding Panamanian events
eluded in Danny Liska's projected publication, THE NIfE
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PUERTO RICO
A case might be made for the irrelevance of the incl
Puerto Rico in this survey* Since Puerto Rico is a Un;
possession, any truly "classic" mutilations occurring
not be properly considered among the "international"
of our readers are already aware of the wave of animi
and mutilations that swept the island in the mid-1970
ially as a result of the articles on the Puerto Ricaxli
by Sebastian Robiou Lamarche which have appeared in
CER REVIEW (England) (and reprinted in the U.S. in P
journal of the Society For The Investigation Of The
Winter 1980), CANADIAN UFO REPORT and LUMERES DANS
A chapter of Robiou^ book MANXFIEEETO OVNI deals witlji
tilations, and Robiou has accumulated many interesti
lesion of
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Also, Salvador Freixedo, in his "Tribute de Sangre"
MUNDO DESC0N0CID0 (see "Mexico"), refers to the evenl|;
native Puerto Rico (our thanks again to Jean Sider
lation). In September 1974 a UFO flap occurred in we
southwestern Puerto Rico. During this period, Freixecjl*
gated the strange deaths of eleven animals on a farm
area. Included were two hogs, two geese, one or two
the rest were goats* Each animal was bloodless (appajj'
exhibited a mark or wound or the neck, but no other
sign of struggle. Freixedo reported on a cow mutilati
tigated: "...the poor beast had a clean cut on the ri
the head, through which one could see the bone." The
circular, "perfectly carved Uf :and extended from the si
neck, but with no evident blood-flow.
Freixedo reports that several unusual phenomena occiuj';
to Rico in late 1974 - not only a rash of both UFOs
tions - but "apparitions of the Blessed Virgin, reli
shedding tears and leaking drops of blood, mysteriou4
ances of people, strange noises and explosions". In
know from Robiou and other sources that reports also
large unknown birds, something which looked like a
hair that rolled along the ground, humanoids, and not
zombie-like and ape-like dwarves, (see also "Odd Enti
STIGMATA No. 5).
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THE CANARY ISLANDS
th:
These Spanish possessions (comprising, in fact, two Sp
vinces) are situated rather inconspicuously off the no
coast of Africa, The largest islands in the group of
Tenerife, Gran Canaria (Grand Canary) and Fuerteventuri
aries are blessed with a mild climate and a substantia
rugged, mountainous terrain. World attention was focus
Canaries a few years ago when a major airline crash-di
red on Tenerife, It has been on Tenerife that most of
that will interest us have occurred, 1979 was a year f[<
ing events in, around and over the Canaries, Although
marily concerned with the strange animal deaths that o
we'll touch on a few other items that should be mentio
no conclusions in regard to relationships can be drawn
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ned, though
Visible from at least three of the larger islands - Gr
Tenerife and Gomera - a brilliant, ascending light was
at least hundreds, perhaps thousands, of witnesses on
at about 8:00 that night. Depending upon from which is
observed, the light-object was variously described as
"pyramid-shaped' 1 or "cup-shaped" plus leaving a "defin
wake". Many prayed, some fainted, certain that the end
was at hand. Motorists complained of headlights and e:
ing as the object appeared. According to the NATIONAL
Lantana, Florida (7-24-79), the Spanish government la
secret" investigation into the incident.
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Then, with March's dazzling UFO display still on the
some seemingly out-of-the-ordinary animal deaths occur:
nights of April 30-May 1 and May 2-3 on the Island of
near the little town of Taco. Six trained, ferocious
herd guard dogs were enclosed on the grounds of a fact
occasions, on the morning of the 1st and 3rd, one of t
found dead outside their enclosure. There were no trac
dence of struggle and no sign of bleeding. However, ea
hole in its chest, through which it was thought the he
had been removed. The Tenerife department of health se
not interested in investigating, as the killings were
be the work of "human hands". The speculation was that
cult" might have sought the heart and blood for use in
ter in the first half of May, near Icod (still in the
the carcasses of two goats were discovered* According
count in the newspaper DIARIO DE AVISOS, both goats we
and exsanguinated. Then, during the same period of tim
13
and Canary,
observed by
March 5,1979
land It was
"cylindrical",
ite, V-shaped
of the world
;ines fail-
ENQUIRER of
iched a "top
ng:
un
inds of many,
red on the
Tenerife,
rman shep—
ory. On two
he dogs was
ks, no evi-
ch dog had a
art and lungs
rvices was
considered to
a "religious
rituals. La-
Taco area),
to the ac¬
re beheaded
e, in the
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Guamasa area, a hog was with ita liver "seeming in v
and the carcass was reportedly missing some "viscera 1
that the hog v/as in a condition similar to the dogs
there was no sign of blood. Then, near Garachico,
ses of rabbits and goats were discovered. A veterinaj|?:
Silos thought dogs might have been responsible and
that the beheadings were related to the Taco killing^
Tenerife, on a ranch at Puerto de la Cruz, a few b
found broken, reportedly as though something had d
the air.
belli
fry bad state"
Police said
it Taco., Again
eaded carcas-
ian at Los
doubted
Back on
a trees were
ed them from
anan
amag
tin
According to information obtained by the staff of D
SOS, the Guardia Civil (police) conducted "intensive
tions" into the animal killings, while all the while
assuring the population in an attempt to "diminish
of the incidents". And the newspaper LA PROVTNCIA co
circumstances which surround these strange happening^
of organs from the bodies, removal of blood, lack of
lence) could indicate that the deaths v/ere caused by
well prepared and with scientific interest." In passjL
be noted that LA PROVINGIA also reported that during
period (early-to-mid May) a purple rain fell on the
rasburgo (on Grand Canary Is.) and in February a blu
been reported in Lyon.
ur
The next siege of anomalous animal deaths would occ
tumn of 1979, but on July 10th, the nev/spaper EL DIA
de Tenerife) reported the following (Trans, from the
AIRCRAFT ON FLIGHT TO TENERIFE REGISTERED STRANGE SIGNALS-
The crew of an aurcraft on a flight from a European city
to Tenerife registered a surprising and seemingly unexplain¬
able action of the aircraft's radar, which, in mid-flight,
gave strange signals in regard to something occurring in
the vicinity of the aircraft. Although the causes of the
astonishment of the crew have not yet been determined, the
possibility that the occurrence might have been due to the
presence of a fleet of "UFOs" has not been completely re¬
jected. There are also theories regarding the actions as
possibly being the result of some very peculiar climatolo¬
gical conditions.
Then, with the onset of October, the strange animal jdeaths began
IARIO DE AVI-
investiga-
they were re—
e importance
deluded: "The
(extraction
signs of vio-
something
ng it should
this same
town of Est-
rain had
in the au-
(Santa Cruz
Spanish):
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to recur on Tenerife. The events were investigated by
AVISOS reporter Jorge Bethencourt. We'll quote a subs
cerpt from his article of October 4, 1979 (translation)
th«
C:L
‘aini
EIGHT SHEEP, WITH THEIR BLOOD DRAINED, IN BARRANC
In a small corral, a plastic bag covers the bodies^
sheep. The bodies present the same syptoms that
victims (there have been a total of eight) did:
holes in the sides, no blood inside the bodies an'
of violence around. Hie account of Antonio Reman
bias: "My father was alerted by the sheep bellow!
the dog barking. He went to the door but didn't g<
cause the dog quit barking as soon as he saw a f
person. Mr. Hernandez went back to sleep. The ne:
ing he went to the corral to find his three sheep
dead. The bodies were on the ground in a symmetric
two of them with their feet against the right wal
corral, the other one with her feet in the opposijt
ion. Blood spots were all over. The
and 3feet high from the floor was
like somebody held himself against the door befor^
out. The hair around the holes (on the sheep) seei
it was cut with scissors or some very sharp instr
Sheep's hair was all over."
corral's door
a bloody hand
"The murderers - and I will explain why I think there were
more than one - used a box that was in the corral for sit¬
ting in and they put into it the instruments they used for
the surgery, plus the animal parts and blood. On ;a side¬
walk near the corral, I could see blood spots and also a
bloody hand mark on a stone. I think the murderer was car¬
rying the box in one hand while using the other ope to
steady himself to keep from falling."
"Lost Sunday six sheep were killed beside the Himalaya
Cookie Factory (STIGMATA note: that would mean at least 9
cases In the area, not eight). They did a good jo's in
there. Now let me tell you why I think there is more than
one murderer and why I think they are persons. First of
all, to steal a box, probably in which to put the instru¬
ments, viscera and blood, as I said; well, the act of ste¬
aling is a human action. To operate those fine instruments,
the mark of the bloody hand on the door and stone - all are
human traces. To subdue the animal and operate on him at the
15
DIARIO DE
itantial ex-
GRANDE-
of three
e other
rcular
no signs
,tiez Cu-
ng and
out be-
liar
kt morn-
were
line,
of the
e direct—
was open
print,
going
flns like
'iment.
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same time is a very hard job for only one person. But why
they do it — I have no explanation."
Antonio continued: "One hundred meters away from our cor¬
ral is Raymundo's corral. Five sheep were found dead there
(we're up to 14-ed.). Their backs were shaved, showing the
dry, flesh-colored skin. One of the sheep had a little
hole, still bleeding, in her neck under the throat. Blood
spots were all over the corral and, on the door, the same
bloody hand print. On the path from the corral to the back—
yard fence were five-toed footprints, like a dog or a ti¬
ger's footprint. The marks were all along the path, show¬
ing an undecided course, and I found many more near the
corral. Just to compare, I printed my feet into the ground
and I think that an animal, to print those tracks, has to
weigh around 40 or 50 kilos (approx. 90 to 110 lbs.). Now
that I've seen the dead bodies and the perfect work of the
murderers, I'm sure they were persons and not animals. No
animal can open doors or use a box for sitting or like a
container — and also, no animal can cut perfect circles.
It's possible the murderers had dogs with them to lend
mystery to the act."
No one in the neighborhood heard any noise or bellowing that
night, but all are afraid because "anyone who kills sheep
in such a horrible way can also kill people". The police
told the people that the murderers are rats;, but people
do not listen to the police anymore, unless the rats
weighed 40 or 50 kilos, which is Impossible.
Then, another article by Bethencourt, published by DIARI0 DE AVI¬
SOS in Its edition of October 7, 1979:
THE TACO AND BARRANC0 GRANDE KILLERS ARE PEOPLE - RESULTS
OF AUTOPSIES KEPT SECRET BY POLICE - We had come to the
Regional Agrarian Laboratory seeking information on the
autopsies performed on the bodies of a goat and rabbit
found under strange circumstances Thursday night. The bo¬
dies had been kept under refrigeration. Veterinarian Joa¬
quin Quilos is director of the laboratory. Although he re¬
ceived us in a friendly way, he refused to provide us with
any data until three police Inspectors arrived. Later the
inspector in charge of the case told us personally that
the results of the autopsies were to be kept secret and
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17
that DIARXO DE AVISOS - although a public servant - should
not hinder the police investigation. That evening DIARXO DE
AVISOS already had some Information on the results of the
autopsies. Usually well informed sources confirmed what
had been rumored that morning: the goats were strangled,
probably with some metal instrument having several sharp
points, shoved down the throat, which was perforated* The
wounds on the animals 1 sides, the autopsy revealed, were not
made by an animal but by a cutting instrument. The doctor
doing the dissection told the police that these wounds
pierced the carcass in an attempt to reach the chest cavi¬
ty, Who would do this and why? In numerous African tribes -
If our memory serves us, among the Masai - it is customary
to drink the blood of animals; they think of it as a reli¬
gious rite, to strengthen body and soul. Certain religious
sects connected with devil worship appreciate the physical
and spiritual qualities of blood. Someone connected with
Africa could have brought with him the paw of a panther or
wolf or jackal to make tracks where the killings took
place, thus misleading the investigators* We know that one
or several human beings are the killers; we know what me¬
thods they employed. The forensic examination by the police
will reveal more details, such as if drugs were used in the
killing or if the animals were first poisoned (which we
doubt if the killers intended to drink the blood).
For those who had thought that the above represented the final
word on the findings, the following article (no byline, so may not
have been authored by Bethencourt) appeared in DIARIG DE AVISOS
just two days later, on October 9th:
Superior Police Headquarters have begun an in depth investi¬
gation to determine the cause of the recent deaths of ani¬
mals in the area of Barranco Grande. DLARIO DE AVISOS Is
informed that three departments are participating in the in¬
vestigation: the department of city security, the department
of identification and the department of criminal investiga¬
tion, with its second chief in charge* The first indications
following examination of the carcasses of the goats by a
veterinarian revealed that almost all exhibited bites in
the throat, evidently done to drain the blood from the ani¬
mal, Only carnivores like panthers, wolves or wild dogs act
in this way. In regard to the holes In the carcasses, the
veterinarian thinks they are caused by bites made in order to
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18
tear out the internal organs* It is supposed that the non-
visceral meat of the victims is rejected by the killers* Even
though the police do not discard any hypothesis, at this
point they do not seem to be considering the possibility of
the killers being people*
But the same edition (October 9th) of DIARIO DE AVISOS also inclu¬
ded the following article by Jorge Bethencourt
The carcasses of two goats have been added to the long list
of victims of the "vampires of Taco" that struck yesterday
in the Tincer area. The animals, found in a gully, had had
their throats torn open with the usual lack of blood. The
police conducted an investigation on the spot and made a
thorough examination of the slaughtered animals* Accord¬
ing to a reliable source, the instrument used by the vam¬
pires was "metal and extremely sharp 11 , possibly a scalpel*
More than fifteen policemen are assigned to the investiga¬
tion which, considering the mobility of the unknown butch¬
ers and the large area involved, presents great difficul¬
ties* It appears that the blood of the animals was carried
away in containers, traces of which have been found. It
seems certain that the "vampires" - as we pointed out the
other day - are accompanied by a dog. This - as we indica¬
ted elsewhere - would serve two purposes: the dog tracks
would mislead the investigators; the smell of the dog, fam¬
iliar to the goats, wot * Id keep them quiet.
Then, in an article published on October 11th, Bethencourt reported
on Senora Barbara Guanche Qtazo, who observed two enormous wolf¬
like dogs killing three of her goats by biting them on the necks*
This occurred in the Taco area, and the area of Vistabella, two
huge dogs were again seen attacking a goat, tearing out virtually
all of the viscera. Bethencourt's report continues, as follows:
At the same time, in certain districts of the area of La
Torre de San Matias were fou^d the carcasses of three goats*
They resembled the victims of what used to be called "the
vampires of Taco"* Are animals alone causing these deaths?
We believe Senora Guanche's story. We also think that the
wounds of a dead goat that we observed in Taco could have
been caused by an animal. We are not experts in this kind
of thing but we have listened to the advice of those who
are more experienced* But we are thoroughly convinced that
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In certain deaths, such as some which took place on Wed. ,
October 3 in the Taco area, the hand of man, using extreme¬
ly sharp instruments, was responsible for the wounds on the
carcasses of eight animals. We cannot deny that dogs are
the cause of some of the deaths. But we would not be honest
with ourselves, nor faithful to our observations, if we did
not hold the firm opinion that a group of people were the
perpetrators of M the exploits of Taco 11 * The motive is obs¬
cure; it defies logic. The deeds are always done in the
same area, and repeated frequently.lt would be a real work
of detection to find the killers.
Finally, the last report we have on the animal killings appeared
in DIARXO DE AVISOS on October 16, 1979. In the article, Bethen-
court and B* Morales report that the Taco "vampires 1 ? had struck at
least fourteen animals within a month. Two different corrals had
suffered an attack on Sunday, October 14th. One sheep was found
dead in each corral. A distance of 100 meters separated the cor¬
rals, with a third unaffected corral in between. The victimized
sheep were left with Circular holes in their bodies and necks,
and no blood. The article does not state whether an autopsy was
conducted on both or either animal, but it is reported that, in
this case, each sheep was missing its kidneys.
In a case we Ml use to close our account of the Canary Islands 1
saga of strangeness for 1979, the event did not occurred directly
over the islands, from all accounts. But on Sunday, November 11,
1979, passengers aboard a Caravelle jet bound from Austria to Tene¬
rife were awed and terrified when a number of pulsating red objects
appeared to be on a collision course with the airplane. One pass¬
enger collapsed as the objects zoomed away. The shaken pilot then
made an emergency landing at Valencia on the Spanish mainland. The
Spanish Transport Ministry opened a "secret investigation" into
the event.
SOME NOTES AND "CONCLUSIONS" ON THE INTERNATIONAL SCENE
"Conclusions 11 , because at this juncture there are few, if any. We
cannot conclusively resolve the question of whether the occurrence
of "classic" animal mutilations as we know them in the United Sta¬
tes and Canada is a truly global phenomenon. 0h f there are some in¬
triguing bits of data among the international reports, and it makes
us long for more details. There are certainly some characteristics
which seem compellingly reminiscent of the U,S, and Canadian cases,
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20
but these similarities could be superficial. The causative ele¬
ment (s) might not be the same.
The Brasilian account of the floating-ascending-disappearing calf
brings to mind a report from a county in the Western U,S,, an
area plagued off-and-on by mutilations throughout the mid to late
1970*5, The story, unconfirmed though it may be, suggests that 2
law officers, while driving on a highway, encountered a cow or a
calf which was said to have been in the process of floating across
the highway at an altitude of several feet. Then there is the Judy
Doraty UFO abduction case (see review of IT A Strange Harvest"),
There are other countries, beyond those surveyed in this issue, in
which possible mutilations or at least unusual deaths of animals
have been reported. If time, space and circumstances permit, we 1 11
provide information on these at a later date. We'll continue to
monitor the international scene and report the findings as they
become available,
SOURCES: For providing information used in these summaries, our
thanks to - Fernando Cerda Guardia, Bob Pratt, Dr. P,M.H, Edwards,
Danny Liska and Donald Boates, And we owe a very special debt of
gratitude to our translators, without whom this survey would not
have been possible: Barbara C, Mathey, Leslie H, Johnson, Jean
Sider and Roger Arguello. And thanks also to Howard and Lovola
Burgess for translations they provided.
BRIEFS
HIGH TIMES magazine (Trans-High Corporation; Dept, B154, P.0* Box
4824; Church Street Station;New York,NY 10249 - back issues: $2,50
each) - The May 1980 edition featured a cover article by John A*
Keel titled "UFOs, Mothman and Me" in which Keel mentions mutila¬
tions briefly and claims that both classic animal and human mutes
have occurred in Mexico, It r s an interesting article, nonetheless;
good to have Keel back again. And, the current issue of HIGH TIMES,
as we go to press, includes an in-depth piece on mutilations by
Tom Clark and Animal Mutilation Probe Director David Perkins.
And - it is said that an article on mutes will appear in LIFE very
shortly; likewise NEW WEST Magazine. PENTHOUSE, it is rumored, is
set to publish a mute piece by David Rorvik.
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Update: 1980
CANADA
and
There has been confusion over Just how many livestock
haw occurred in Canada in 1980. For one thing, there
press coverage (as there was in 1979) because the Royal
Mounted Police (RCMP) has clamped a secure lid on the
Lyn Lauber of Calgary is still directing the RCMP invest:
apparently feel that the press blew the situation out of p
year, and they are preferring to conduct the present pr
tie furor as possible. The RCMP is doing their job
(some of whom are very upset over the RCMP news blad
ing to do theirs - no good/bad guys, no black/white dicty
fully the RCMP will eventually release more details. As
determine, the "official" count of confirmed mutilations
(primarily Alberta & Saskatchewan) from mid-1979 throuj
is approx, thirty, with from 10 to 12 occurring in 1980
uncertain just how many of those 10 or 12 are "confirme
RCMP). Last year, the mounties have been looking at thi
of cultist involvement. The latest rumors making the ro
that they may be thinking differently now, possibly in teb
volvement of a foreign power.
Mutilations
s not much
Canadian
matter (Cpl,
igation). They
roportion last
qbe with as lit—
the media
kout) is try-
otomy. Hope -
best we can
in Canada
jjh mid-1980
(though it's
d" by the
The latest Canadian mutilation occurred - not in Alberta
wan - but in Manitoba, and it has been brought to our ai
vestigator Tommy R. Blann of Lewisville, Texas, who
tensive Canadian contacts. We'll quote from a portion
though the names and locations are being withheld:
Dr. Carroll (ed.note: a pseudonym;a veterinary patho|l
vealed that an apparent mute case had occurred on Ji
near a town in Manitoba. Dr. Carroll's examination
had been transported to his lab) had found that the le
scrotum, testicles, tail and anus had been cut and r
There were also two cuts on the left flank. Dr. Carbi
ted that the cause of death was determined to be per:
and the mutilation was done after the death of the an i:
Dr. (a local veterinarian) indicated that the male cal:
found in an alfalfa pasture amongst the rest of the he
possibility
ijrnds suggest
ms of the in-
or Saskatche-
i Mention by in-
aintains ex-
his report.
m
o::
ogist) re-
line 10, 1980
(the carcass
ft ear,
amoved.
oil rela-
toniiis.
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22
were no marks to be found on the ground to indicate
the perpetrators affected the mutilation. He also rei4
that the parts removed presented an "unusual collect
coincidences", and that predators seemed an unlikely
though possible, explanation. He also said that the c
found in a not easily accessible location. There had
any publicity about mutilations in this area to encour
pranksters. The RCMP investigated the incident, ta
tos, etc., but did not make any public statements...
how
arked
on of
, al¬
ii if was
not been
age
g pho¬
to ni
THE UNITED STATES - KANSAS
Fortean researcher Steve Hicks advises us that an acqua
his visited the Atchison County, Kansas, Sheriff's Offices
February 1980. Though occasional accounts have trickled
the press, the investigator was informed that, in the p:
up until early February 1980, 25 mutilations had been r
Atchison County - 8 cows, 15 sheep and 2 goats. The
a student para-medic, was taken to view the two freshe
es, from which the rectums and genitalia had been remi
cally". To the west, in Ellsworth and Russell Counties,
tilations occurred between August 1979 and April 1980.
Bureau of Investigation, it was announced, offered to aid
in their investigations, but "no hard evidence" had been
Summing up the recent mutilation problems in the KANS
TIMES (March 13, 1980), reporter Tom Ramstack inter
searcher in the toxicology department of a Kansas City
requested anonymity but told Ramstack about mutes he
..most mutilated cattle he has examined have been
.. strange precision (with) no clues left to follow. .
mens from cattle that died under mysterious circum^
are frequently sent to the hospital for tests to deter
cause of death. Typically, the researcher said, sevi
ternal organs have been removed with a precision ti
few surgeons could accomplish. The cattle have beei|
ed of blood, and their bodies sometimes are found
areas where only their hoofprints are visible. The
tracks precludes the possibility of predators having
intance of
in early
out through
rleceding year,
eported in
investigator,
st carcass-
nved "surgi-
7 known mu-
iThe Kansas
the sheriffs
uncovered.
AS CITY
i/iewed a re-
hospltal. He
has known:
cut with
.Speci-
tances
inine a
eral in-
t very
drain-
muddy
ck of
1 tilled the
hal
in
lsu
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23
animals, the researcher said. In fact, predatory and scaven¬
ging animals reportedly avoid the carcasses of cattle that die
under such circumstances. Even after the specimens are tes¬
ted, the researcher said, the cause of death usually remains
a mystery.
COLORADO
The "busiest" state for mutilations thus far this year - At least three
horse mutilations occurred in the El Paso County-Elbert County area
and there have been many accounts leaking out regarding unreported
mutilations in the state (see pp. 2 & 3). There have been at least
two apparent cattle mutilations in western Colorado - in Mesa County
in April and near Meeker in Rio Blanco County in late May.
IOWA
A classic cow mutilation ("definitely not predators"..."There is no
doubt in my mind. ..that humans were involved") occurred in Washing¬
ton County on or about May 11th. The remains underwent analysis by
Dr. Vaughn Seaton and his staff at Iowa State University's College of
Veterinary Medicine. The best veterinary surgeons at the college at¬
tempted to produce the same effects on another cow carcass, but after
a couple of hours it was decided that the mutilation could not be dup¬
licated. And, in Washington County, at least two encounters with uni¬
dentified helicopters were reported.
Other States
Mutilations have also been reported this year in South Dakota, Texas,
Washington and North Carolina. And Canadian mutilations have occur¬
red in Alberta and, as detailed above, in Manitoba. In the next STIG¬
MATA we'll take a closer look at all the 1980 U.S. and Canadian mu¬
tilations.
Credit: Thanks to Mr. &Mrs.Bill Allan,Dwight Whalen, Dr. N.J. Smith, Leo
Quigley, Kenneth Pawson, Helen E. Ball, Tommy Blann, Steve Hicks, Linda
M. Howe, Dorothy Aldridge, Elsie Dummer, Bob Silva, Grant Callison,Joe
Motsinger, Peter Jordan, David Brewer, Linda Williford.
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Stigmata —1981
For a while we were uncertain whether STIGMATA would continue to
be published in 1981. We would like to devote what spare time we
have to more basic in-depth research, intensive data analysis and per¬
haps the preparation of a book-length work. After deliberation, we
have decided to continue publishing. We'll roll right along, whether
the mutes do or not. Though our subscription price will be the same:
$5.00, we have not decided whether to continue with the present format
or to go to more frequent issues (perhaps bi-monthly) which would
mean smaller issues and perhaps a return to our original 85 " X 11"
newsletter. Whatever it turns out to be, we'll attempt to make it worth
your five dollars.
MISCELLANY
Linda Moulton Howe's documentary, "A Strange Harvest" is scheduled
for airing on Indianapolis, Indiana TV station WRTV on Thursday, Ju¬
ly 31, 1980 -New Yorkers Ian Summers and Daniel Ka¬
gan have contracted with Bantam Books to do an investigative/journal¬
istic book on the mutilation scene. They're currently gathering raw da¬
ta, will make a big swing through the west in August and they have a
deadline in Winter (early 1981)-Meanwhile, Michael Albers
of Minneapolis has authored a tome "provisionally titled 'THE TERROR'"
and it is scheduled for publication this fall (from Manor Books)-
-Word has it that Manor Books also has a fictional book based
on mutilations scheduled for publication in the near future. -
— Despite the RCMP's news blackout, a couple of Canadian publica¬
tions are pursuing the mute saga. ALBERTA REPORT news magazine
has already published an article this year, and Project Stigma has been
contacted by a writer preparing a feature for MACLEANS magazine —
- .. Rumors are rampant about a recent UFO abduction incident in
the western U.S., wherein a woman is taken aboard a craft where she
subsequently witnesses a livestock mutilation. Disturbing aspects have
emerged from the investigation, which is being conducted with utmost
secrecy-We thank Tom Bearden's SPECULA and J.W.
Burke, Jr.'s GRASSY KNOLL GAZETTE for their recent kind words a-
bout STIGMATA and THE CHOPPERS.. .AND THE CHOPPERS.