Date: Sat, 6 Jun 92 20:00:46 -0400
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Moderne Forum For Morrissey And The Smiths
Volume Two Issue Fourteen
Hello again subscribers, its Michael here. Please send all posts,
requests for subscription, or address changes to:
[email protected]
I hope this issue isn't coming out so late that noone is in school to
read it, end of the quarter projects and finals have kept me quite
busy. I am sorry, but still no subscribers poll. I didn't want to
make up all the topics myself, but so far no suggestions. Please let
me know if there are any unusual topics that you think people should
be polled on.
Also, I would like to apologize for an error in date I made on V2 I13.
The 'Your Arsenal' LP is to be released in the US July 28, not August
24 as I had previously stated. Sounds much better, huh? :)
Keep sending your posts in, there should be some more news, especially
after 'Your The One For Me Fatty' is released. Sorry, no date on that
yet. And according to NME, Morrissey's world tour starts in August,
but there are no hard facts as to where he will start. Dates should
be set, I will try to find out from Sire in California when
Morrissey's tour dates are, they should be released sometime soon I
hope. And good luck to all of those people who are making the trek
later this month to see Morrissey and his 'Kill Uncle' band at the
Glastonbury Festival in England. A friend of mine is going, and it
seems Morrissey will probably preview his LP at that show.
Sorry its been so long since the last 'Strangeways', Happy 33RD
Morrissey (May 22, 1959), and enjoy! :)
Michael
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From:
[email protected] (David C. Tseng)
Subject: STRANGEWAYS
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Some news:
Morrissey has been vacationing in Los Angeles the past 2 weeks. It is
unsure if he's doing any type of record company business, but
hopefully he is also working out some tour plans. While here, I've
heard that he has surveyed the damage the past riots have caused.
Last Saturday he was seen bicycling in Venice, and stopped in a store
which was playing KROQ. They announced that there would be a
Morrissey lookalike contest at a local club that night. Morrissey
decided to attend and was completely mobbed (as usual). He stayed for
about an hour and a half, most of the time in a back, secluded room.
He signed lots of things sent back to him, surprisingly some Smiths
things also.
In other news, the new album is scheduled for release July 28, some of
the song titles are : "You're Gonna Need Someone On Your Side" ,
"Glamorous Glue" , "Certain People I Know" , "We'll Let You Know" ,
"We Hate It..." "You're the one for me, Fatty" , "Seasick Yet Still
Docked" , "Tomorrow" , "I Know It's Gonna Happen Someday" and one more
I can't seem to remember. Those are not in order as they would appear
on the LP.
Lastly, if anyone ordered SYL2 and wondered where it is, it will be
coming soon, everything will be printed by June 8, and mailed by June
14. Thanks for your patience.
David Tseng
From:
[email protected] (Scott Krajewski)
Subject: VOX
If you haven't already, then you'd better pick up the June issue of VOX.
It's an English music magazine and this issue is full of great stuff.
page 4 -- couple paragraphs about The Smiths' compilation
page 7 -- Morrissey quotes
pages 20 - 26 -- a part of "Moz/Marr" is reprinted
page 37 -- a short bit on Rourke,Gannon, and Joyce
page 40 -- a list of famous people on Smiths' single convers
I think that's about all. Check it out!
Has anyone else seen the Hammersmith Odeon video? I love it.
Scott
From:
[email protected] (Scott Krajewski)
Subject: Live In Dallas
I just picked up a copy of Live In Dallas from the music store. I
think that it is pretty good. It's not as good as Hammersmith, but a
good concert. Everyday Is Like Sunday got a little out of hand
though. About the new album, I received a catalog from a mail-order
music place in Milwaukee that claims to have Your Arsenal already.
They want $25 plus $7 shipping. What's the deal. I thought it wasn't
due to be released for a while?
Scott
From:
[email protected] (Mark Dorset)
Subject: Strangeways
Hi there, I just found out about your magazine tonight and I'm glad I did!
put me on the mailing list please?
Here's an offering for your magazine:
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I'm living in Melbourne Australia and I have noticed there seems to be
a bit of confusion about Morrissey's "Education in Reverse" album... I
can pretty much clear up the confusion for Edward Baichtal (see issue
2.10) and others.
Morrissey's 1st album as we all know is called "Viva Hate". For some
reason when the vinyl album (not cd) was released in Australia they
called it "Education in Reverse". I'm not sure of the reasons, whether
that was a working title that wasn't fixed or otherwise. The track
listing is as follows:
Side 1:
Alstatian Cousin
Little Man, What Now?
Everyday Is Like Sunday
Bengali in Platforms
Angel, Angel, Down We Go Together
Late Night, Maudlin Street
Side 2:
Suedehead
Break Up the Family
The Ordinary Boys
I Dont Mind If You Forget Me
Dial-A-Cliche
Margaret On the Guillotine
The # on the record is EMC 790 180 and they arent pressing them
anymore so they are collectors items. I'm not sure what they're worth
nowadays, the last time I saw one for sale was in an ad in NME from
1990 and they were asking 10 pounds, but I have heard they're worth
about 25 pounds now. I have a spare one which I can sell if anyone
wants it badly. In Mint condition for AU$30 (plus postage). Or I'm
willing to swap it for a copy of the New York Mix of "This Charming
Man" on 12" vinyl.
ZH
P.S. If you've seen Morrissey live be thankful, he cancelled his
Melbourne show last year at the last minute, resheduling it for a week
later, then cancelling that show at the last minute as well without
rescheduling.
P.P.S. I have heard a rumour that later this year all the old Smiths
albums are being re-released with new covers, and a new `Best Of' CD
is coming out as well. Can anyone back this up?
From:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Strangeways
greetings from indianapolis!!!!
it is i, rene', here to say a few things about
the MORRISSEY in DALLAS video i just bought today!
for one, whoever said it wasnt any good was way wrong...
there were no quick shots of morrissey...the whole video was morrissey!
that is all i saw through the whole video...morrissey morrissey
and more MORRISSEY!!!!!!
the songs were awesome as they always are and i have never fealt
happier with a video.
reminds me of chicago when morrissey toured in the fall for a
brief time. i thought chicago was good because i was in the front with my friends having the greatest time of my life!
but this dallas show was way better!
morrissey is in my opinion and i am sure in other peoples
opinions THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH! and i dont mean that circus thing...
nobody in the world can bring out so much POWER AND EXCITEMENT
than morrissey!
a wonderful entertainer and a wonderful man!
how often does anyone find a person with so much meaning
and so much presence? you dont...it is rare and morrissey has this
power.
it is THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH and i hope to hear tour dates soon.
forever morrissey
rene'
From: Tom Cronin <
[email protected]>
Subject: submission: vinyl lust
Hello. I have been overcome by a dream. A vision. I must have
everything the Smiths released on vinyl (I don't have to duplicate 7"
and 12" though, unless the 7" is different, only 12" is fine.) I was
wondering if there's anyone out there who bought they're vinyl long
ago and then decided that nowadays CDs are the way to go. If so, or
if you just don't want your vinyl, or need money, please contact me.
I need vinyl. If anyone has a copy of The Smiths with the original
printed paper sleeve, I'm interested. All the stores around here have
clear vinyl inner sleeves (some sort of rerelease, I suppose.)
Does anyone have any tour info for Morrissey and the new album?
Hopefully the trend of two tours per album will continue (the best
part of Kill Uncle.)
Tom
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Tom Cronin "Ere long done do does did"
[email protected] - Some dizzy whore, 1804
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From:
[email protected] (Scott Krajewski)
Subject: Lyrics
Alright, this is my FIRST time trying to figure out lyrics on a song
so bear with me. There are a couple places where I am confused. I
note those with brackets "[]" or just question marks. Please E-mail
me if anyone can figure out what I can't or anyone has any
corrections. I know this is most futile since the lyrics will appear
in the July album, but what the hell.
"We Hate It when Our Friends Become Successful"
We hate it when our friends become successful
We hate it when our friends become successful
Oh look at those clothes
Now look at that [vase]
It's so [old]
[It's such a video]
Well, it's really laughable
We hate it when our friends become successful
and if their northern
That it makes it even worse then
If we can destroy them
You bet your life we will destroy them
If we can hurt them
Well, we may as well
It's really laughable
You see it should have been me
It could have been me
Everybody knows
Everybody says so
They say
Oh, you have loads of songs
So many songs
??????
First chorus
??????
Just listen.....
That's all for now!
Scott
From: Tom Cronin <
[email protected]>
Subject: submission
Hello. In response to the Wonderful Woman questions, I have both
the vinyl referred to (A Nice Bit of Meat, w/ Marilyn Monroe on the
cover, I presume) and the CD (Morrissey 1959-1987). The two albums
say that the songs were recorded at two different times, although I am
absolutely certain that they are the same. If the person who has the
CD also has the Hand in Glove 7", they can verify whether the Handsome
Devil is the same or not. (The date of Handsome Devil is on the
single). I've never heard Wonderful Woman non-live, so I can't say if
the lyrics are changed.
All this reminds me... Was Handsome Devil ever recorded (and
subsequently released) in the Rough Trade studios? I know it is out
live, and on Peel Sessions (or whatever it was on Hatful of Hollow)
but is there such a thing as a studio version of this song?
In response to the discography, is there anyone out there who
knows ALL of the Smiths releases, including those from the US, France,
W.Germany, etc.? I'm attempting to get the _complete_ collection
(dream on) and I would appreciate any help I could get. For example,
the fact that The Boy with The Thorn in His Side does not appear in
discographies irks me, as I own it, so I know it was put out (albeit
by Sire.) Any help graciously accepted.
Tom
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Tom Cronin "Ere long done do does did"
[email protected] - Some dizzy whore, 1804
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From: PAUL LEDDY <U30480%
[email protected]>
Subject: How Morrissey comes up with lyrics.
Hi,
Yes it is my first posting.
I was wondering if anyone knows of any publications or such that goes
in detail about Morrissey lyric writing...How he comes up with ideas,
what kind of imagery does he try to convey. His influences of using
Wilde.
Anything would be great.
Thanks,
Paul
From: Gyles <
[email protected]>
Subject: Rare CD's
Hello. I just recieved two bootlegs that may be of interest to you
people. One is 'The Smiths - Live Panic!!!' and the other is
'Morrisey (sic) - Higher Education'. I will describe them now for you.
THE SMITHS - 'LIVE PANIC'
Total Running Time 43:17.
Recorded live somewhere in the U.K. 1984
Tracks and running times as listed on the case of the CD (These generally
do not correspond to the actual running time)
1. Classics For You (0:56)
2. How Soon is Now? (4:16)
3. Nowhere Fast (2:06)
4. I Want the One I Can't Have (2:04)
5. Bigmouth Strikes Again (3:18)
6. Panic (2:44)
7. Heaven Knows (4:51) *Actually Meat is Murder
8. Stretch (4:58) *Actually The Queen Is Dead
9. I Know It's Over (6:19)
10. Queen (3:05) *Actually Hand in Glove
11. I Want to Go Home (3:25) *a.k.a. The Headmaster Ritual
12. You've Got Everything Now (3:12)
Comments: Generally it is pretty good. It's a fairly decent recording.
The tracks have very abrupt beginning and ends, but I suppose that is
to be expected. I have only listened to it twice, on loudspeakers and
on headphones and it sounds better on headphones. I would give it
about a 7 out of 10. Except for tracks 7,11 and 12 which have somehow
been sped up so that Morrissey sounds like one of the chipmunks, these
tracks have sound quality about 4 or 5 out of 10.
Morrissey - 'Higher Education'
Total Running Time 50:33.
Recorded live in Utrecht, Holland, 1 July 1991.
1. Mute Witness (3:36)
2. Will Never Marry (3:16)
3. Pregnant For The Last Time (2:35)
4. Everyday is Like Sunday (3:13)
5. Cosmic Dancer (4:03)
6. Disappointed (3:06)
7. Our Frank (3:30)
8. That's Entertainment (3:47)
9. I've Changed My Plea To Guilty (3:06)
10. Piccadilly Palare (2:57)
11. Sing Your Life (3:23)
12. (Asian Rut *Not Listed*)
King Lear (5:50)
13. The Last of the Famous
International Playboys (3:17)
14. November Spawned a Monster (4:48)
Comments: Very good recording. I would easily give it a 9 out of 10
for sound quality. The songs Cosmic Dancer and Disappointed are the
same as were released on (I think) the Pregnant for the Last Time
single. The only problem I have with this CD is that they seem to
think 'Morrisey' is the correct spelling of his name.
I would be willing to make a few copies of these recordings if
people wanted to trade or whatever.
Darren
[email protected]
From:
[email protected]
Subject: Strangeways
Sire Records has put together a project called "Get Out!" which I
believe is somehow intended to combat homophobia. I don't know how
they intend to do that, but, according to Rolling Stone, if you dial
1-800-876-1199 (? - I think that's right) they will send you a free
copy of the Get Out! CD, and you will also receive 3 issues of Out
magazine.
Oh, BTW, the CD has a track from Morrissey on it.
Michael
