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Volume 1, Issue #15
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Notes: An FTP server has been gratiously set up for
the Strangeways archives and other stuff including
the discography and lyrics. I will send everything
to the site this weekend (hopefully). The site is:
quartz.rutgers.edu (128.6.4.8)
and all information will be in the pub/Strangeways
directory. Contents so far:
Strangeways volumes 1-15,
Discography
Smiths/Morrissey Lyrics in ASCII format
Smiths/Morrissey Lyrics in WP 5.1 format
Please try to use the server during off hours.
The lyrics files are fairly large (100K or so).
Enjoy.
=K=
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From: Simon Hughes <sph%
[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 91 14:48:18 BST
Subject: Strangeways: Moz tour, Marr on split
In S14, Kevin writes
>does anyone know when (if) Morrissey has made any tour plans whatsoever?
Funny you should mention that! This weeks NME (20/4/91) says that Moz will be
doing a short Euro-tour (Dublin (27/4), Paris, Deinze(?), Utrecht, Cologne,
Berlin and Hamburg (6/5)). No UK dates are confirmed as yet but there should
be gigs in Scotland soon and England later in the year. No mention of USA gigs
at all, I'm afraid.
His back-up, which will work with him on future recordings, is entirely new and
includes an ex-Polecats guitarist! Support on all dates is Phranc.
On to new stuff. In the same ish of NME there is a quite revealing interview
with Johnny Marr about events surrounding the break-up of The Smiths. It's the
first time (to my knowledge) that Marr has really opened up about the split. I
suspect that he was prompted to do so by comments from Moz, in the past few
months, which, it is claimed, `rewrite history'. Selected quotes follow:
`I guess the real ugly period was the one before, during and after the last US
tour. We were all of us - personally, professionally and in public - a mess.'
`I just stopped liking the other members of the group.'
`We had completely inflated senses of our own importance. Ultimately I was
giving every single second of my life to someone else.' (Moz)
`I wanted to change but... Look there were two songs that I wrote that I wanted
to use sequencers in, and a bass line with a groove. In consequence both songs
ended up as instrumentals - our only ones except for Oscillate Wildly - Money
Changes Everything and The Draize Train.'
`I'd been thinking about leaving for ages and ages, but nobody knew that.'
`... leaving me to answer this bit of blackmail in the NME hoping presumably
that I'd deny it all.' (news that Marr had quit The Smiths)
`So my phone call was a reaction to a piece of blackmail from people who had
been so close.' (a phone call to NME saying he hadn't quit The Smiths and that,
if he was out, he wouldn't let the others use the name `The Smiths')
Apparently Marr has spoken to Moz only once since the split - a month or two
after it happened. What price a reunion now!?
Simon
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From: CALS::HEBERT 2-APR-1991 16:35:08.41
Subj: Loyal Supporters
Regarding the Spin quotes from Morrissey... re: what he thinks of his "loyal
supporters" - I have a really poor-sound-quality live tape of the
Smiths Great Woods show (at the Great Woods venue in Mass.) and
on that tape Morrissey (sorry - can't quite get used to calling him Moz
yet as I'm from *this* side of the Atlantic) says to the crowd, as
they're clapping wildly, "You're very kind" and then he says a couple
times after that "You're very kind and you're very clever". This always
makes me laugh - so apparently, Morrissey does think his fans are clever!
Clever to like him. Thanks so much Morrissey. (He's right of course ;^) )
- Charlotte
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Date: Thu, 18 Apr 91 12:37:07 -0700
From: "Michael A. Ramirez" <
[email protected]>
Subject: Subject:
Greetings, I have a question concerning Morrissey's parents. I
heard a rumor that they were Jehovah's Witnesses. Could this be true,
or is it just another rumor.
The Creem interview is a lot better than the Spin. In the Creem
interview, Morrissey lets the interviewer listen to a new track just
finished, and there are really good descriptions of his house or should
I say manor, and its interior. Check it out it is worth it.
I really like Morrissey's cover of The Jam's That's Entertainment.
It is on the B side to Sing Your Life, which should be out domestically (US)
any day now.
That is all the news I have for now. Catch you guys later.
Ramirez
[email protected]
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Date: 18 Apr 91 18:37:32
From:
[email protected]
Subject: PICCADIILLY PALARE
Yes I'm back
Here is a very random question what are the words at the very very end of
Piccadilly Palare? I heard for the first time a couple of days ago. They are
not printed. The words are also very hard to pick up at times. the actually at
times sound like a buzz.
Nicole
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Date: 18 Apr 91 18:40:29
From:
[email protected]
Subject: Mon Dieu, Live and in the Flesh
About the Morrissey Tour a friend reported to me that it might be late summer
early fall.
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From:
[email protected]
Subject: New Morrissey Single and New Electronic Single
Greetings all. I just picked up the new Morrissey ("Sing Your Life") and
Electronic ("Get the Message") singles. The Morrissey single contains
"Sing Your Life", "That's Entertainment" and "The Loop", for those
of you who haven't had a chance to get it yet. It's a great single, but
there doesn't seem to be a lot of hype surrounding it, as when any other
Morrissey single has been released. In fact, I don't think KROQ even
knows a new single is out. He did release this one rather quickly, didn't
he.
Anyway, the new Electronic single really blew me away. I'm not a real
"synthesizer" person (although Marr was great playing the synthesizer
at the DM show). The new single has a lot of guitar in it, in addition
to a heavy synthesized beat. It sounds a lot like New Order's early
music. Of course there are four remixes of the same song, but hey, what's
new about that. A friend of mine suggested that they sound a lot like
Peter Hook's _Revenge_ group.
=K=
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[ Here's a transmission that came over _Babble_, the Cure mailing list.
I thought it was pretty interesting. It seems everyone is getting
interviewed these days :-) =K= ]
Reply-To:
[email protected]
Date: 23-APR-1991 20:57:25 GMT +00:00
From:
[email protected]
To: babble <@aberdeen.ac.uk:
[email protected]>
I just read a pretty good interview with Bob in a local music magazine
called 'Lime Lizard',from the Kent area.I thought at first that I'd type
it all in and let you people read it,but then I realised that i have better
things to do.What I will do is list some of his more interesting (In my
opinion) quotes.Here goes:
Interviewer(I):'Does it bother you that people cast you in the same genre
as Morrissey?There always seems to be a tendency for you two to be compared.'
Bob(B):'Does there?'
I:'Yes.I think its probably the angst and anxiety in your music,but I think
there is a greater complexity with you,not with your character but with
your creative progression.'
B:'It doesn't bother me.I mean I hate him,I just think that he's
hopeless,really useless.I always did.I've always disliked The Smikths.I
think I disliked them from the first time I heard the name,before I'd really
heard them.I thought 'How dare they!'.There're certain groups that get
somewhere and people sort of have faith in them.I could never see why.'
I:'Is it his seriousness?'
B:'He tends to moan without humour.At least I moan with Humour.I think there
is a enormous difference between us.He's so po-faced it bugs me.I remember
their first interview,when he was asked which Smith he would most like to
kill:Mark E. or Robert?He said'I'd put them both together and shhot them.'
and I'm thinking 'Why?'.Why didn't Morrissey say 'I wouldn't shoot either
of them.'?So from that point I realised it was all a load of bollocks.He's
someone who is too infatuated with the moe glib aspects of Oscar Wilde,the
quotable side of life.Its just a dream for someone to talk out of inverted
commaslike Morrissey does,its so premeditated.John Marr is just like Keith
Richards,its like all the old cliches in that group were just there without
any human involvement.It was all that like 'brilliant guitarist' stuff.I
mean he's a fuckin' uselessguitarist.Not as useless as I am,but in the sphere
of people who can actually play the guitar and play the guitar well he's
just not there.Everthing about him I've always disliked.'
A while later....
B:'...There is too much snobbery involved in a lot of things and I'm as
guilty as anyone,despite my best efforts not to be.Sometimes I try to like
things about people that otherwise I wouldn't.Like if George Michael put
out the most brilliant single in the world I'd still think he was a cunt
and I would hate him.'
I can't really be bothered to type in any more,my eyes are getting tired.I
suppose if someone else wanted to type it in,they could send me an SAE and
I'll photo copy it,but hten again I may not.
Any one have any comments?I quite like The Smiths,and I think that
Marr is a fine guitarist,not matter what Bob says.I don't agree with Bob
when he calls George Michael a cunt.He is is much more of a puss oozing
sore on the face of Humanity to be only a cunt.
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Date: 25 Apr 91 19:14:24
From:
[email protected]
Subject: time, and buring questions
in the hulmerist video, who is the backdrop image???
who is the coverstar for hatful of hollow?
does anyone know the status of the tour?
come on guys lets have a little conversation, this is getting tired really
fast.
nicole
so sing your life
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[ This is from rec.music.misc. I guess morrissey is starting to tour.
Hopefully he'll get to the U.S. pretty soon :-) ]
Just a short note here to inform everyone that the Bard Of Whalley Range is to
tour Eire and Scotland (one date in Dublin and 3 in Scotland (Glasgow,Dundee
and Aderdeen i think).
I just found out about it today 24th april in the NME. I got 4 tickets, ten
pounds each so on the 17th of May i'll post a wee review for all you that are
interested ont tother side of pond!
Viva Dead Ponies
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