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Volume 1, Issue #6
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 12:39 EST
From: Richard Locke <locke%
[email protected]>
Subject: Strangeways
Greetings,
I've been a Smiths fan for about 6 years and have most of their
legitimate stuff in one form or another. Unfortunately, I've heard
it all so many times that it [legit stuff] has gotten "old" ;-)
Regarding some stuff I've seen discussed: I taped a Morrissey & Vinni
Reilly song off the radio where they abort the session & laugh about it
when someone hits the wrong note on the guitar -- is the is the
giveaway single "I know Very Well How I Got My Note Wrong" someone
mentioned? It sounds like it. You gotta hear it, it's great.
(Purely a stroke of luck that I taped it...)
There was some discussion about the broadcast concert that eventually
became "Rank". Does anyone know for sure the date of that performance?
In any case, I have a tape of the radio concert which include
"How Soon Is Now", which didn't make it onto Rank for some unknown
reason. I couldn't identify any other songs which they played that
didn't get onto Rank... Anyone got authoritative info on this?
I'm heavily into live tape trading. This is what I have from the
Smiths:
demos and live tracks, 1983-1986 (g-vg+, 60m)
(possibly from vinyl "a nice bit of meat" boot)
greek theatre, berkely, ca, 8-23-86 (ex-, 70m)
Rockpalast 5/4/84 (video) (ex-, 60m)
better live than dead (vg+, 45m)
(originally from BBC radio broadcast, not Rank)
other: I have the Sandie Shaw stuff and some fan club 7"ers taped...
Send me e-mail {uunet!pdn!locke} if you want to trade.
I trade lots of other bands, too.
Finally, here's song lists for misc. live & rare stuff I have:
Demos/live
sweet and tender hooligan (demo), how soon is now, frankly mr. shankly
(both live), half a person (demo), meat is murder, the queen is dead
(both live), london, is it really so strange (both demos), bigmouth
strikes again (live), shoplifters of the world (demo), panic,
the boy with the thorn in his side, whats the world (all 3 live),
purple haze (soundcheck), cemetary gates
misc b-sides & stuff (some has been release on the Morrisey album):
draize train instrumental, pretty girls make graves (featuring
audrey riley), some girls are bigger than others (live brixton '86),
hand in glove, i don't owe you anything, jeanne (3 from sandie shaw)
last..playboy, michael's bones, ouija board..., yes, i am blind, east west,
november spawned a monster
fan club 7" Playbox, London '85: heaven knows I'm miserable now, jeane,
this charming man, hand in glove
fan club 7" Goodbye to Elvis, Scotland '85: still ill, rusholme
ruffians, what she said, what's the world
fan club 7" Radio Sessions: is it really so strange, london, sweet
and tender hooligan, half a person
Better Live than Dead: william it was really nothing, nowhere fast,
what she said, hand in glove, how soon is now?, stretch out,
that joke isn't funny anymore, shakespeare's sister, meat is murder,
miserable lie, barbarism begins at home
[ Send mail directly to Richard if you are interested in obtaining these
albums. He will work out something with you. I suggest instead of sending
tapes that you send him about $2.00 per tape (for the tape and postage).
Lars will be compiling the Morrissey KROQ interview and the Concert that
they played on the radio (parts of it were from _Rank_). I haven't sent
him the tapes yet, so don't expect it out for a little while. He will
post to Strangeways when it's ready. =K= ]
[ Richard - My copy of _Better Live Than Dead_ will probably go out on
Monday, so expect it around the end of the week. Let me know if it
doesn't get there. =K= ]
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 21:09:21 PST
From: CAR-RT SORT 28-Feb-1991 0928 <arthur%
[email protected]>
Subject: STRANGEWAYS
"This Charming Man" New York City Mix
Hi,
This is my first posting to S/W so I'll give a quick intro before my
question. My name is Edward Arthur, I work for Digital Equipment Corp
in the Boston area but am originally from the New York area. I've been
listening to the Smiths since the very first time I heard "This Charming
Man" whenever it came out ('83?) - I'm certainly NOT known for my memory!
I've never seen the Smiths live - I was out of town but times they toured
although my younger brother saw them and said it was the best show he'd
ever seen. I'm looking forward to catching Morrissey on his solo tour
but I may not go if the venue is too large...
Now for my question. Is there such as thing as the New York City mix
of "This Charming Man"? Some friends of mine have asked me to buy them
a copy but I've never seen one...supposedly it was a US release on vinyl
and is a rare collector's item...so, DOES IT EXIST?
Thanks,
Ed "Why are you being so reasonable now?"
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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 22:08:07 -0800
From: "Michael A. Ramirez" <mar%
[email protected]>
Hello, I am looking for a bootleg of a festival know as the G-Mex
Festival that took place in Machester in July of '86. The bands on the venue
included The Smiths (of course), A Certain Ratio, The Fall,
Echo and the Bunnymen, and New Order. Please e-mail or post if you wish.
Intro: Michael A. Ramirez
I am a freshman at the University of California at Berkeley. I intend
to major in Computer Science or Computer Engineering.
I first heard The Smiths on a college radio station when How Soon Is
Now? came out. From that time I didn't here much from them, until last year.
When a friend (you know who you are :) ) started to play their music. Now
I am a semi-collector.
Favorite Songs:
How Soon Is Now?
There is a light that never goes out.
I hope to hear from someone who has a copy of the above bootleg.
Thanks...
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From: Simon Hughes <sph%
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 14:26:01 GMT
Subject: Strangeways: Wonderful Woman, Smiths covers compilation, Peel sessions,
Kill Uncle
Various points arising from Strangeways #4.
Wonderful Woman was the B-side of the (1st) UK 12" release of the This
Charming Man single. A lot of people accuse Moz of having a droning whining
voice and offhand I can't think of better evidence than this song! It is a
bit of a dirge!! Pleasant though --- "When she calls me, I do not walk I run"
Actually its the only Smiths song I know that has had two completely
different titles and lyrics. What I mean is that there was an early Smiths
song called `What Does She See in Him' which had completely different lyrics
to Wonderful Woman but the same music. I've only ever seen it in one place
which was a bootleg tape of one of their early gigs (the earliest I've
seen bootlegged).
Marc Howard Anderson <ma1m+%
[email protected]> writes
>Also, I heard a rumor a while back that there were plans to possibly
>release a collection of Smiths unreleased songs including a cover of New
>Order's "Blue Monday". Has anyone else heard similar rumors?
I think this is referring to the deliberate hoax I saw in a British music rag.
Could have been an Aprils fool joke but I don't remember.
Moz did record a session for John Peel's BBC radio program but he didn't like
it so it was never broadcast. Bet there's a bootleg of it somewhere! The
Smiths did at least three Peel sessions (from memory)
Handsome Devil, Reel Around the Fountain, Miserable Lie, What Difference Does
It Make
This Charming Man, Back to the Old House, This Night has Opened my Eyes, Still
Ill
Nowhere Fast, Rusholme Ruffians, Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want,
?
They also did a few sessions for other radio programs. E.g. some of the
Hatfull of Hollow tracks are from a David Jensen session.
The UK release of Kill Uncle (all 33 mins of it!) should be out 4 March.
Simon
[ Is _Kill Uncle_ THAT short? That's rather disappointing! =K= ]
[ By the way, the official release date for the United States is 5 March
(Tuesday). I think it might be out right now...some big record stores
get all their stuff in before release dates. =K=
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From: Simon Hughes <sph%
[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 91 14:46:26 GMT
Subject: Strangeways: Discography
A few bits and bobs arising from the discography in Strangeways #5. Everything
here refers to UK Rough Trade releases unless otherwise stated.
There was a 12" of Shakespears Sister with extra track `Stretch Out and Wait'.
The 7" of Girlfriend in a Coma was backed with `Work is a Four Letter Word', not
I Keep Mine Hidden.
I believe that I Started Something and Stop Me if You've Heard this One Before
were corresponding US and UK releases. But I can't remember which was for which
country! Whichever was released in the UK had a cassette release which included
Pretty Girls Make Graves (radio session version?), Some Girls are Bigger than
Others (live, with extra verse) and What's the World (live cover of a James
song). Incidentally the videos for ISS and SMIYHTOB were exactly the same!
Simon
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