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A forum for Morrissey and The Smiths.
Volume 1, Issue #2
Let's get some information flowing...this is starting to work!
It looks like I'll be sending something out more or less daily
depending on a) how busy I am, and b) how many and how large of
posts I get. Keep it coming!!
=K=
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Date: 25 Feb 91 13:46:26
From: Nicole.E.Nelson%
[email protected]
Subject: Strangeways
Marr- has been picked up by the talking heads-again
Nicol
[ Talking Heads?!? When's their next album coming out? I thought
they had disbanded after Byrne went off on his solo career. -K ]
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Date: 25 Feb 91 16:56:00
From: Nicole.E.Nelson%
[email protected]
Subject: Strangeways
Here's a little Intro
My name is Nicole, i am also a dartmouth student(93). I live in NYC- which
happens to have a very large Smiths/Morrissey following.
I have been following Moz, and the gang since around 84/85. The first tune
that I ever heard was Suffer Little Children and Reel Around the Fountain. For
me it is impossible to have a "favorite Song" because Moz/Marr wrote so many
things together.
I have never seen Moz in concert for two rasons
1) Moz cancelled several of his shows in NYC on the Queen is dead tour
2) On the same tour (early date) i had i previous engagment that couldn't
broken
so I am one of the long time suffering Smiths Fan
My thoughts On Moz solo
Well, I don't think that people should compare his work to that of the Smiths.
Moz has been a pretty good by himself. I know that many were disappointed by
Viva Hate, because they didn't have that "smiths" sound, though i wonder what
Marr would have done with Sudehead and Everyday is Like Sunday- because they
are WONDERFUL and SIMPLY CHARMING.
I didn't like the fact that Moz put out several singles and then a comp album.
How does the line go "Re-issue, Re-package, Re-evaluate the songs....."
I realise that HMV/EMI had a lot to do with that .
on the most part has singles have been good, with the exception of Ouija
Board- which I think is weak as a single but great on Bona Drag.
I heard that Moz was going to tour the states the spring. I think that we all
should remember that even if dates are set, that doesn't mean he is going to
perform. Moz has a rep. of cancelling shows. I heard that he real doesn't like
to tour, and if anyone has seen him in concert or the video Sister I'm a
Poet, knows why.
I have some questions
Who, besides myself has The World Won't Listen on CD.- it's only an import on
CD, i think.
Who is the cover star on Hatful of Hollow???
Does anyone has the boot of with Wonderful Woman with different lyrics
And- does anyone have the single This Charming Man New York/ This Charming Man
Manchester.
If anyone wants a Smiths discography I should be typing one in soon.
Nicole
People see no worth in you
oh but I do.
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From:
[email protected]
Subject: Strangeways
I think just about everyone who's a Smiths fan must have The World Won't
Listen or at least heard of it. Most won't buy it because the songs have
all been released on other compilation albums. I don't know why Rough
Trade released _the World Won't Listen_ and _Louder Than Bombs_ (the
first in the UK, the latter in the US) within a few months of each other.
Especially since they both contain almost the same songs! Hmmm.
Just for the record, I have the CD (yes, import only). Morrissey said
in an interview (at KROQ) that he enjoyed releasing singles and wasn't
really an "album" person. Don't expect too much from the album...I
think EMI/HMV is forcing him to do something a bit longer than a
single.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found _Bona Drag_ a little disappointing.
Can't answer any of the other questions. Just send the discography to
Strangeways.
=K=
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Date: 25 Feb 91 18:27:25
From: Michael.C.Massengale%
[email protected]
Subject: STRANGEWAYS: James cover?
Found this interesting tidbit in a James discography...
>The Smiths covered a James song - >'What's The World', on their cassingle
>'I Started Something I Couldn't Finish'.
Has anybody heard this? Is this track available on CD? And for that matter,
what Smiths tracks are unavailable on CD? I guess we'd know if we had a
complete discography. If there are enough tracks (I personally thought they
were all out on CD), maybe we could make a compilation cassette.
Michael
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Date: 25 Feb 91 19:05:49
From: Nicole.E.Nelson%
[email protected]
Subject: Discography
The Smiths Discography
Hand in Glove/Handsome Devil
May 1983
This Charming Man/Jeane
Nov 83
This Charming Man(manchester) /This Charming Man(London)/ Accept Yourself/
Wonderful Woman
12" Nov 83
This Charming Man New York/ This Charming Man(instrumental
Dec. 1883
What Difference Does IT Make/ Back To The Old House
Jan 1984
What Difference Does It Make/ Back to The Old House/ These Thingsd Take Time
12" Feb 84
Hand In Glove/ I Don't Owe You Anything(Sandie Shaw w/The Smiths)
April 84
Hand in Glove/ I Don't Owe You Anything/Jeane( Sandie Shaw w/The Smiths)
12" April 84
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now/ Suffer Little Children
May 84
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now/ Suffere Little Children/ Girl Afraid
12" May 84
William It Was Really Nothing/ Please PLease Let Me Get What I Want
Aug 1984
William It Was Really Nothing/ Please PLease Let Me Get What I Want/ How Soon
Is Now
12" Aug 1984
How Soon IS Now/ Well I Wonder
Feb 85
How Soon Is Now/ Well I Wonder/ Oscillate Wildly
Feb 85
Shakespeare's Sister/ What She Said
March 85
That Joke Isn't Funny Any More/ Meat Is Murder(live)
July 85
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore/ Nowhere Fast(live)/ Stretch Out And Wait(live)/
Shakespeare's Sister(live)/ Meat Is Murder(live)
July 85
Big Mouth Strikes Again/ Money Changes Everything
May 86
Big Mouth Strikes Again/ Money CHanges Everything/ Unloveable
12" may 86
Panic/ Vicar In A Tutu
July 86
Panic/ Vicar In A Tutu/ The Draize Train
12" July 86
Ask/Cemetery Gates
Oct 86
Ask/Cemetery Gates/ Golden Lights
12" Oct 86
Shoplifters Of The World Unite/ Half A Person
Jan 87
Shoplifters of The World Unite/ Half A Person/London
12" Jan 87
You Just Haven't Earned It Yet Baby/ Half A Person/London
(mispress 12" jan 87)
Sheila Take A Bow/ Is It really So Strange/ Sweet And Tender Hooligan
12" April 87
Girlfriend In A Coma/ I Keep Mine Hidden
July 87
Girlfriend In A Coma/ I keep Mine Hidden/ Work Is A For Letter Word
12" July 87
I Started Something I Couldn't Finish? Pretty Girls Make Graves/ Some Girls
Are Bigger Than Others
12" Oct 87
Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me/ Rusholme Ruffians
Dec 87
Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me /Rusholme Ruffians/ Nowhere Fast
12" dec 87
Albums
THE SMITHS
Released Februray 84
Reel Around The Fountain/You've Got Everything Now/Miserable Lie/Pretty Girls
Make Graves/ The Hand That Rocks The Cradle/ Still Ill/Hand In Glove/ What
Difference Does It Make/ I Don't Owe You Anything/ Suffer Little Children
Hatful Of Hollow
Released November 84
William It Was Really Nothing/ What Difference Does It Make / These Things
Take Time/ This Charmong Man/ How Soon Is Now/ Handsome Devil/ Hand In Glove/
Still ILL/Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now/This Night Has Opened My Eyes/You've
Got Everything Now/ Accept Yourself/Girl Afraid/Back To The Old House/ Reel
Around The Fountain/ Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want.
Meat Is Murder
Released Febuary 1985
The Headmaster Ritual/Rusholme Ruffians/ I Want The One I Can't Have/ What She
Said/ That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore/ Nowhere Fast/ Well I Wonder/ Barbarism
Begins At Home/ Meat Is Murder.
The Queen Is Dead
Released June 1986
The Queen Is Dead/ Frankly Mr. Shankly/I Know It's All Over/ never Had No
Ever/Cemetery Gates /Big Mouth Strikes Again/The Boy With A Thorn In His Side/
Vicar In A Tutu/ There Is A Light That Never Goes Out/Some Girls Are Bigger
Than Others.
The World Won't Listen
Released March 87
Panic/Ask/London/Big Mouth Strikes Again/ Shakespeare's Sister/There is a
Light That Never Goes Out/Shoplifters Of The World Unite/The Boy With The
Thorn In His Side/Asleep/Unloveable/Half A Person/Stretch Out And Wait/ That
Joke Isn't Funny Anymore/Oscillate Wildly/ You Just Haven't Earned It Yet,
Baby/ Rubber Ring.
Louder Than Bombs
Sire (Double Us Import)
Release April 1987
Is It Really So Strange/Sheila Take A Bow/Shoplifters Of The World Unite/Sweet
and Tender Hooligan/Half A Person/ London/Panic/Girl Afraid/Shakespeare's
Sister/William It Was Really Nothing/You Just Haven't Earned It Yet,Baby/
Heavens Knows I'm Miserable Now/Ask/Golden Lights/Oscillate Wildly/These
Things Take Time/Rubber Ring/Back To The Old House/Hand In Glove/Stretch Out
And Wait/ Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want/This Night Has Opened My
Eyes/Unlovable/Asleep
Strangeways Here We Come
September 1987
A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours/I Started Something I Couldn't
Finished/ Death Of A Disco Dancer/Girlfriend In A Coma/Stop Me If You've Heard
This One Before/Last Night I Dreamt That Somebody Loved Me/Unhappy
Birthday/Paint A Vulgar Picture/Death At One's Elbow/ I Won't Share You
Notes:
All Of The Singles and Album are Rough Trade except when listed.
The single This Charming Man New York/ This Charming Man(instrumental) was
intended to be a DJ pressing, a DANCE MIX.
Everyone will notice that How Soon Is Now is not listed Meat Is Murder. This
is becasue orginally the song was not suppose to be on the album. It is not
list on on the album, but only on the CD and Tape.I may be wrong but i do not
think it is on the import.
The World Won't Listen is a comp of Moz's favorite songs. Where as Louder Than
Bombs is a combination of Hatful of Hollow and The World Won't Listen
Stretch Out And Wait on The World Won't Listen and Louder Than Bombs but the
words are a little different.
When Louder Than Bombs was first released it was packaged wrong. The A/B album
was The Smiths . Most Of them have been sent back. How do I know this- i have
it and I bought it for $3.00 when it came out.
It is very hard, next to impossible to Find The World Won't Listen on Cass. or
Cd in a store in the states. It is not listed as an import, but i think that
is the only way one can get them.
[ I've managed to find this CD at any good import store. There's no way
you're ever going to find either _The World Won't Listen_ or _Hatful
Of Hollow_ at a "mainstream domestic" records store unless you're very
lucky. If you're in the Orange County area, there are two real good
CD/import stores that carry just about everything by the Cure, the Smiths,
Morrissey, etc. One's called the Record PX in Fountain Valley and the
other is Hyde Park Corner in Irvine. (I don't have their addresses but
I can give anyone directions if they ask).
=K= ]
I didn't included the 3 Peel Sessions.
On The Moz Discography Hairdresser on Fire Is listed on Viva Hate . It should
be noted that it appears on on the CD and Cassette.
All of the UK singles of Moz are released on his Master's Voice.
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 91 19:16:51 -0500
From: Michael Arras <arras%
[email protected]>
Subject: Strangeways
Someone once told me that at one time all of The Smiths were
vegetarians. After listening to Meat is Murder, I think that there must be
some truth to that. Can anyone confirm/discount a rumor that any of The
Smiths was at least at one time a vegetarian?
Mike Arras
[email protected]
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From:
[email protected]
Subject: Peel Sessions
Nicole states that there are three peel sessions. I only recall one on
CD. Anyone else know anything about this and where I can find the other
two peel sessions? The one I'm refering to was recorded on 18 May 1983
and has the songs "What Difference Does It Make", "Miserable Lie",
"Reel Around the Fountain" (excellent version) and "Handsome Devil".
Peel Sessions are essentially for new, struggling bands that are trying
to get some play time. Since the Smiths literally hit it off with their
first few singles, I don't think they ever really needed to record a
second (or even third) peel session. Of course there's always the
possibility that I'm wrong :-). That's why you don't see Peel Sessions
of bands after they've "made it big".
Does anyone know if there was ever a Morrissey Peel Session. I kind of
doubt it (because of the above reasons), but just because I haven't seen
it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Last item: has anyone heard of something called "the Attic Sessions"?
KROQ was playing some accoustic sets by the Smiths from this album.
I think it's a weekly show over in the UK. The radio station played
an outstanding accoustic version of "There is a Light That Never Goes Out".
=K=
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