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So here's archive number five! And god, I've still got a meg of this shit left
so don't think it's going to stop anytime soon. As of this writing, the war
is still going on strong. The PLA have set up pages somewhere that will
automatically spam the BNF and sometimes it gets to the point of your post
being scrolled off the board within 20 minutes. I'm still on the edge of my
seat about all of this wondering what's going to happen with it all.  These
posts start on August 20th, 1997. Just shows you how behind I am in doing all
this stuff.



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                  HAVE YOU EVER KNOWN A 13 YR.OLD WHO COULD STICK
                  W/ANYTHING THIS LONG?
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                  Posted by: I never have. It seems to me
                  E-mail: these people are older
                  Location: than thirteen.
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Like 53? (and 40) Have your fun now, John and Patsy
                  'cause I'm pretty sure they don't have computers in
                  jail.

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                  Posted by: Teacher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Has anyone else here fantasized about having sex with
                  John? I know he has a small pecker, but
                  still....mmmmmmmm. I would want to do it with him on
                  his desk at work, and Patsy could watch. maybe Burke
                  could come in and periodically wipe the sweat off our
                  writhing bodies.



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                  Posted by: Attention
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Ramsey haters and lovers and wanabees. Goodnight. git.



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                  Posted by: I dont believe
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  these are hackers these are people who are paid to do
                  this



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                  Posted by: goodnite
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Attention see ya tomorrow



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                  Posted by: Getting Tired
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Teacher The way JonBenets head was fractured . Does
                  that mean her skull was bleeding?



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                  Posted by: Teacher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  I would love to give John a blow job while Jacques the
                  dog humps my leg and Patsy masturbates with a hot dog.



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                  Posted by: V
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  To: Teacher

                  Don't EVER mix metaphors at an orgy. Important.



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                  Posted by: Teacher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Here's another fantasy:
                  Santa rubs glitter all over my body while Mrs. Claus
                  writes a play about it. Then Fleet breaks down the door
                  with a baseball bat and he gets arrested. All this
                  while Patsy is complaining that her knees are fat and
                  I'm riding John like he's a pony...oh God...

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                  You have to see this old thread from the past!!!
                  Seriously! Is this sweet or what?
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                  Posted by: Teacher Fan
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  LogicBox's Birthday Thread
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                  Posted by: Tannest
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  Happy Birthday LogicBox!!! :)

                  Posted by: to: TW
                  E-mail: no, that doesn't work either.
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  A whole 3 min. have gone by. We REALLY NEED for you,
                  tw, to make another thread.

                  get this: you are not wanted here. you were never
                  wanted here.

                  Posted by: Texas2
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  Logicbox, is this the big one... 18?

                  Happy birthday to you
                  Happy birthdayt to you
                  HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR LOGICCCCCC!
                  Happy Birthday to you!!!!!

                  Hope it's a great one, shared with friends and people
                  you love! Hope you get great gifts, too!

                  Posted by: TO: TW
                  E-mail: the whole state of Texas
                  Location: is coming to get you
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  if you don't take off Texas2's hat. Quick, everybody,
                  come look!
                  TW in Tex2's hat!!
                  Have you ever seen anything so silly looking in all
                  your life?

                  Posted by: Fri
                  E-mail: 4:30pm
                  Location: EC USA
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  Has everybody gone on strike? Or is this case solved,
                  And I missed it- Answer anyone??

                  Posted by: happy birthday to you
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  from the boulder forum

                  Posted by: Murphy
                  E-mail:
                  Location: Georgia
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  Hear you've reached the big 18 Logic!
                  Hope your day's filled with much love and happiness.

                  Looks like you've got a pretty darn exciting future
                  ahead of you "WonderKid". Winning Awards these days too
                  & the whole bit - FANTASTIC! The best is yet to come:)

                  HAPPY BIRTHDAY LOGICBOX!

                  Murf

                  PS - Hi Tannest!

                  Posted by: Logic Box
                  E-mail: [email protected] (well it will be soon,
                  dammit)
                  Location: 408
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  w00w00... thanks and stuff. Maybe I'll go commit a few
                  federal crimes now so I can tried as an adult, that
                  would make me feel cool (that was a joke, BTW). My
                  birthday's pretty spiffy so far, thanks all... Hi
                  Tannest, I love you! ;)

                  Posted by: to: TW
                  E-mail: i don't know tannest, but i do know
                  Location: Murphy
                  Posted on: Thursday May 01, 1997

                  And she wouldn't be caught dead visiting one of your
                  ratty threads, let alone chatting with you.

                  Now, go on; take Murphy's hat off. Murphy's posts were
                  informative and interesting; yours are dumb and
                  dreadful. Now, hear this:

                  You are a fool; an idiot and a fool. A dirty idiot and
                  fool.

                  I've told you this before, but listen up: You have no
                  idea who you are dealing with on the internet. If you
                  did, you would never spend all day, 24 hours a day,
                  seven days a week, making people mad.

                  Now, go on down to the sewer pipes where you belong.
                  Sleep well.

                  A little birdie told me that you were thrown off mIRC.

                  My goodness, I wonder why?

                  What's this world coming to?

                  Posted by: Murphy
                  E-mail: icq 178011
                  Location: Georgia
                  Posted on: Friday May 02, 1997

                  to - to:TW

                  Above you write that you know me what where I visit and
                  were I don't. Who I'm friends with, who I'm not.

                  Sorry nameless - You don't know me or any of those
                  things about me.

                  I've met, chatted with, and enjoyed Logic's visits.
                  LogicBox isn't you're problem, YOU are you're problem.

                  Soon as I saw this thread I came straight here. Logic
                  was on IRC just a night or two ago. YES, I do and will
                  continue to chat with LogicBox.

                  You RatPatrol ppl are the ones trashing these threads
                  with your stupidity. The RatPatrols running around all
                  over these threads spewing forth ignorance pretending
                  like you know something while proving you are without a
                  clue.

                  The Rat Patrol fuels - thread destruction.

                  Posted by: Tannest
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday May 02, 1997

                  Hi Murphy, thanks for admitting you know us! :) Logic
                  and I enjoy chatting with everyone from the threads!!!

                  As soon as my page is done I will come chat again on a
                  more regular basis.... this has turned into a big
                  project! But fun. Plus the last few days has brought on
                  a big change in my professional life, (I hope for the
                  better, but who knows!?!)

                  I have to comment just once on the IDIOT who calls
                  themself "Rat Patrol"'s post. You say in your post,
                  "A little birdie told me that you were thrown off mIRC.
                  "

                  First of all... mIRC is a software program. You can not
                  be thrown off it. You must be talking about IRC, right?
                  Since you offer warnings as to how to behave on the
                  INTERNET you may want to stop looking like such a fool
                  whenever you make these threats and statements trying
                  to ridicule someone else. Plus, it's pretty much
                  impossible for someone to be kicked off the IRC
                  entirely.

                  You are really getting annoying, I may just have to get
                  off the fence about you when I have more time. You are
                  starting to tempt my flaming urges...

                  Posted by: To: Logic Box
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday May 02, 1997

                  Browsing through, saw the thread,

                  Happy Birthday Logic Box!

                  (regardless of Who you are, Where you are..It's your
                  birthday, Man!)

                  :)

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                  Posted by: elf watch
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  fuck you that was bullshit

                  come over and pull the leaches from within my septic
                  dank pussy hole



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                  Posted by: PAL
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  What a wonderful thing to post as Logic Box is under a
                  suicide watch. At one time he did have a few cyber
                  friends. Too bad he published that piece about
                  instigating the ruination of the BNF in that PLA-zine.
                  Now back to high school he discovers he has no real
                  friends. Can someone please contact his high school
                  counselor? Logic Box suicide attempts need to stop. A
                  bright mind is a terrible thing to waste.



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                  Posted by: Are you retarded?
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  He published the PLA 45 story in early April.


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                  Posted by: Mike Ockhurts
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Heights/8243 has
                  been REMOVED.
                  Have A nice Day!

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                  Posted by: logic nuts
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  thats not funny man ,we want more attention

       [I don't know if this was mentioned in one of my earlier
        archives, but someone made a "We hate PLA page" which was
        taken down a few days later. The page was really lame and
        whoever designed it just couldn't get the hang of WYSIWYG
        html editors. Basically the page just listed each person
        "in" the PLA and had a paragraph of insults next to each
        name. Very uncreative. ]

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                  Posted by: Rosalie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  These juvies seem to think they can run us from the
                  forum by typing dirty words and idiotic phrases.
                  Listen, honies, I don't care for that language, and I
                  don't use that language, but I've seen it all and heard
                  it all more times than you could imagine. You need to
                  get lives and get the hell out of here. I have never
                  posted a nasty word in this forum but I know them all
                  as well as you. If you think seeing the c-word or the
                  d-word or the p-word or the s-word is going to "shock
                  me out of this forum" you've got another thought
                  coming. Get a life you little asshole(s)!

       [This is in response to the PLA's autoposting page. Somewhere on
        the net they set up a page to post a million threads over and
        over again. They all had the same topic which was something
        along the lines of "FUCK SHIT PUSSY! ARE YOU OFFENDED??!" Very
        stupid, even by PLA standards. ]


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                  Posted by: elf watch
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  yes my feelings exactly
                  we will deal with them like we killed the others
                  it will be fun and relaxing to feed their hearts to
                  satan.

                  we will all have a good laugh when this is over



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                  Posted by: Rosalie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Indeed it would be fun and relaxing and I would feed
                  their hearts to Satan most joyfully. Roses!



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                  Posted by: *****
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  why are we here in the first place?
                  not to talk about those assholes in training

                  keep the treads in order

                  quit talking about jameson



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                  Posted by: observer
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  The constant defense of jameson by these juvenile
                  delinquent wannabes is very interesting, don't you
                  think?

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                  Posted by: WHO
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  1. Creating a thread and then filling it with trash
                  before BNF even posts there.

                  2. Wasting time typing in new foul language when you
                  could just paste in old stuff.

                  3. Actually reading our posts to see where to spam. Is
                  there something wrong with this picture?

                  4. Spending the time to go into our archives and find
                  stuff. We don't even do that!

                  PLA AWARDS:

                  Most scuzzy looking: RBCP
                  Child most liekly to be raised by foster parents: Emily

                  Most repulsive fat guy: el jefe
                  Most intellectually immature: oobick
                  Female most in need of bag on head: "Pinguano"
                  Most totally boring person who want to seem cool:
                  Psykopath

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                  Posted by: One more
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  UGLIEST girl who looks like a guy and is uglier than a
                  dog's butt:

                  TANNEST



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                  Posted by: Psykopath
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Cult of Eternal Damnation
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  I'm not in the PLA fool. I'm in the Cult of Eternal
                  Damnation, a religous cult. The PLA is a group of
                  hoodlums, we're a group of Satan Worshipers. God, learn
                  to tell the difference.

       [I can't tell you how hard that post made my laugh. ]

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                  Posted by: To: Psykopath
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  There is no difference, you idiot.



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                  Posted by: blue pisser
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  now now girls

                  the hot flashes are to be enjoyed


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                  Posted by: 31373
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Hickory, North Carolina
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  I think that I'm doing the whole forum a favor by
                  posting this information. You will all thank me when
                  these people go down!!

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                  Posted by: NonEMus
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Be glad to help - just tell me how.

                  Where is the info you posted? Did they alredy delete?

                  Mike Ockurts is in this PLA.

       [Haha, Mike Ockurts is the name on the account where PLA's page
        was located over a year ago. Say the name outloud. Then laugh. ]

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                  Posted by: 31373
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Hickory, North Carolina
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  I think that I'm doing the whole forum a favor by
                  posting this information. You will all thank me when
                  these people go down!!

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                  Posted by: To:31373
                  E-mail:
                  Location: Here
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Is that your prison number? Go away, please. We don't
                  care about you and your feud with all those sallow,
                  underdeveloped little boys. If they'd spend as much
                  time lifting weights as they do keyboarding, they might
                  get to look like something. Then maybe they could get
                  REAL dates instead of living their pathetic little
                  lives in cyberspace.



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                  Posted by: To: To 31273
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  You have some good points, but I feel that these little
                  underdeveloped boys are totally inequipped to live in
                  the real world, compete with other boys for dates, etc.

                  They are total zeros.



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                  Posted by: elf watch
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  dear 3113
                  you sound hot :)

                  have you ever been licked in the snatch by a
                  fat veiny woman with pms,and a strap on that is bigger
                  then mike tysons forearm??

                  no reason just curious :)



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                  Posted by: What
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  A stupid little brat you are.


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                  Posted by: Psykopath
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Cult of Eternal Damnation
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  It has come to my attention that some stupid people
                  seem to think that I am in the PLA. I am not. I am in
                  the Cult of Eternal Damnation, a cult dedicated to
                  getting in to the coolest parts of Hell by making Satan
                  happy and messing with stupid people, such as the
                  people in the forum. The PLA are a bunch of phone
                  losers, the Cult of Eternal Damnation is a bunch of
                  cool PLA. Get it through your heads, I am not in the
                  PLA, nor assosciated with the PLA. This has been
                  another Cult of Eternal Damnation Post, NOT a PLA Post.

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                  Posted by: Priest
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  May Jesus forgive you, and may God the Father have
                  mercy on your poor little soul.

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                  Posted by: xxx
                  E-mail: xxx
                  Location: xxx
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Post here for Wednesday night--we can't let these brats
                  take the forum over.

       [This was someone making a new post at the top of the forum in
        hopes of overcoming all of the spam posts. It was a hopeless
        battle for the regular BNFers. They kept capturing all the
        previous posts that were about to be scrolled away by spam and
        pasting them into new threads. When that thread reached the bottom
        they started over. This went on for about 5 hours straight. ]


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                  Posted by: NOW
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Hang Tough

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                  Posted by: GSH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Reporting in and hanging tough. Somewhere on the
                  tangled threads were Rosalie and oreo...We will meet
                  again...AND...What was Jameson saying about the saliva
                  on JBR's body and the report being in BN? Bulls***
                  unless s/he posts the story.....

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                  Posted by: N
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Re: the new threads, they are all the same couple of
                  titles, showing they are automatically being generated.
                  Please don't go to any website url that was posted here
                  today or yesterday whether it is supposed to be pro or
                  anti-PLA. Surely that is causing the generation of new
                  threads because when the delinquents are really here
                  they don't repeat themselves word for word.

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                  Posted by: GSH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  N...Think you should get the SuperSlueth hat for
                  figuring out how all these new threads, with the same
                  title, are being generated. Makes ya want to quit URL
                  hopping, doesn't it?

                  Do you think that was really Jameson? I am riding that
                  ole fence, but will not take that misinformation....not
                  even with a grain of salt, unless there is an URL..But,
                  as Koby said, don't believe anything you see, read, or
                  hear about this case. *laughing softly* Does that mean
                  not to believe Koby cause I read it?



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                  Posted by: N
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  I can't believe it was Jameson, as it imitates his
                  style but NOT QUITE well enough. Jameson never tells us
                  to look up stories, a la Mrs. Brady. Plus there IS NO
                  STORY. But that post isn't in the style of the LOSERS
                  either (they don't know that many words) so God only
                  knows who posted it.



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                  Posted by: GSH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  N....Or, all of you that understand computers..Could it
                  be that when we click on certain threads, made by those
                  who are trying to play games, that it generates a new
                  thread? Be careful of where you click? *backing out,
                  wondering if that sounds impossible*...



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                  Posted by: Oreo
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Can't believe I started this thread and it is still
                  intact.

                  Hi ALL

                  Cookie :)



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                  Posted by: to: GSH
                  E-mail: pseu
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  stay on the threads you create...stick with them as
                  long as possible.

                  BBL



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                  Posted by: Rosalie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  COOKIE!!! :)
                  I've missed being on normal threads. I feel so out of
                  touch!



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                  Posted by: GSH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Oreo, dear Oreo..I am so glad to read a familiar post
                  that I could just pour the milk and rejoice in
                  oreos....
                  N....Think you are right that the LOSERS don't put that
                  much thought into imitating a poster..Close, but not
                  quite...Sad, but it could be one of our own......*hell,
                  who knows who is who anymore?*...



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                  Posted by: Oreo
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  I plan on staying here but if we need to we have a back
                  up.

                  Has Teacher been here?
                  or Rosie or China?

                  Was there 1 decent thread today?
                  I didn't find one.



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                  Posted by: Oreo
                  E-mail: GSH
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Who led the sing a long when I was absent. I sent you
                  posts that night but they just evaporated in cyberdom!



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                  Posted by: Tippy
                  E-mail: 9:17pmcentral
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Hi all - I've been here every night but can't usually
                  decide where to post.

                  Had to quit late Monday night so noted the thread
                  number so I could check the archives the next day.
                  Would you believe that our posts weren't on it any
                  more, even in the archives?

                  I sent a long plea to BN yesterday. Anyone else tried
                  that?



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                  Posted by: strange
                  E-mail:
                  Location: NC
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Well this looks pretty normal. Do you ever feel like
                  your playing hide and seek? Things could not get
                  weirder in here.



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                  Posted by: Poster gal
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Hi folks. I agree the threads are being generated
                  automatically. I'm not sure how they do it. They may
                  have something posted on a bulletin board. Some thing
                  like the web page with the hili peppers. The thing is,
                  if you generate a thread, the forum gives you the
                  "return" screen. And if you try to create two threads,
                  the forum tells you you can't do it. I know becasue I
                  clicked on the chili peppers and this is what happened.
                  So you can tell if you do it.

                  And I don't think there are any strange URLs posted
                  here tonite.

                  But I do agree we should stay off strange URLs.


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                  Posted by: xxx
                  E-mail: xxx
                  Location: xxx
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  Somewhere they have rigged up an E-Mail forwarding
                  service to post two new threads when they are accessed.
                  They are:

                  JBR Thursday #243 and
                  PLA is going down.

                  It may be that they are not on line now, this is just
                  being done automatically.

                  I think the best thing to do is NOT POST on any of
                  those threads--use the threads we know to be
                  authentic--those with other names.

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                  Posted by: yyy
                  E-mail: yyy
                  Location: yyy
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  gotcha. Good for you for being so observant.



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                  Posted by: Pseu
                  E-mail: here
                  Location: there
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  just logged on...thanks to the thread starter for the
                  advice.

                  If that's the case, well...you know what to look for
                  now.

                  off to look for news, BBL



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                  Posted by: pseu
                  E-mail: here @ 9:20 CST
                  Location: there
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  the only decent thread below is:

                  NIGHT SHIFT REPORT

                  w/GSH & Crew



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                  Posted by: Celia
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: denver
                  Posted on: Wednesday August 20, 1997

                  I heard that you could put long messages on the PLA
                  guestbook and it would fill up the computer and crash
                  it. I don't know if it's possible but it could be worth
                  a try. It might give us a small break so we can talk
                  about jonbenet.


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                  Posted by: *-*
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  N...You have a skill at this...Our very own Gill
                  Bates..*pray, not of Norman fame*....Somehow, a URL is
                  a thread starter..It is a site not connected to this
                  Forum, and whenever someone visits that site, a new
                  thread is made...A step further than the little red
                  peppers....Fascinating what can be done.....

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                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997



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                  Posted by: GSH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Guess I hit a nerve by calling the leader of the boys
                  Gill Bates..Been fun, but I miss the Night Shift.....


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                  Posted by: Forum Terms and Conditions
                  E-mail:
                  Location: Boulder News Forum
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  While as a general rule users of this bulletin board
                  are not required to identify themselves to
                  participate in bulletin board communications, The Daily
                  Camera and BoulderNews reserve the right to reveal your
                  identity in the event of a complaint or legal action
                  arising from any message posted by you.

                  YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. WE WILL FIND YOU.

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                  Posted by: we are lovers not fighters
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  we are not here to make trouble
                  we want the people who are cussing and calling us names
                  to be stoped

                  pla inc



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                  Posted by: we are here to talk about the case
                  E-mail:
                  Location: s
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  we are being cussed at and talked down to
                  and now they want to sue or navels

                  pla inc


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                  Posted by: N
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  How 'bout you pry your atrophied little brain out of
                  your reeking, cancerous colon and shove it deeply into
                  your maggot-infested, snot-packed nose where it would
                  fit more snugly.

                  Your attempts demonstrate to one and all that someone
                  is paying you to do this. I hope it supports your
                  heroin habit adequately.

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                  Posted by: A real poster
                  E-mail: Not a PLA member
                  Location: Everywhere
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Shohani - who is Matt Wright? Are you saying he is PLA
                  founder? Someone below said Bill Cook was. If it really
                  is Matt and not Bill, how did you find him?

                  I am behind you 100 percent. Please stop this insanity.

       [Now it's getting good...they think that Matt Wright is the guy
        who runs PLA or made the PLA web page. Actually, Matt Wright is
        a guy who runs a site on the web offering free cgi scripts. The
        PLA used Matt Wright's web board script and on the bottom of
        the web board there's a little notice saying, "This script was
        created by Matt Wright! Visit my page of scripts!" or something
        like that. Who knows how they came up with the idea that Matt
        was the PLA head hauncho. ]


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                  Posted by: B. Jackson
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: California
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Matt Wright is the person who created the PLA web site.
                  Oh, sorry, I'm not shohani, but I did check the PLA
                  site and can answer your question, but probably not as
                  well as she can. The address
                  is:http://phonelosers.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm

                  That's all I know. I think he sells space on the web or
                  something to people and he is proud of having thousands
                  of hits on his site. The more people he can encourage
                  to do this, the more popular his site is. (I know I
                  dont understand it either)

                  My husband and I just got connedted to aol
                  about a month ago and we both are interested
                  in this case.



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                  Posted by: Real poster again
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  B.Jackson, thank you for your answer.

                  Is matt wright also the founder of the PLA or just the
                  person who made the web site?

                  Welcome to the forum, B. It is usually a good place to
                  come and visit. But these PLA weirdos attacked our site
                  about a week ago and it is ruined right now. Keep
                  coming back B, we're going to get it fixed. We are
                  after these teenage loonies.



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                  Posted by: hello no
                  E-mail:
                  Location: on the shitter
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  god damn where is the party??

                  gonna get the show on the road and paint some trains

                  doom style
                  ruthless and cold
                  up in till the trial
                  living kinda bold



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                  Posted by: B.Jackson
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: California
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Thank you, a friend at work told me about it and we
                  always talk about the case. I don'thave that much time.
                  we have young kids--2--but my husband is self employed
                  and he gets to spend more time than I do. I work for
                  the county in a small town in California. You hear so
                  many different stories about this case that its hard to
                  keep up with it.



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                  Posted by: cara
                  E-mail: x
                  Location: sf bay area
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  B. Jackson--Welcome. If that's your real e-mail
                  address, you don't want to use it here or you can end
                  up with all kinds of unwanted mail.


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                  Help me bring down the PLA!
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                  Posted by: 31373
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Hickory, North Carolina
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  I think that I'm doing the whole forum a favor by
                  posting this information. You will all thank me when
                  these people go down!!

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                  Posted by: hey moron
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  shut your fat pie mouth. your page is down. i just get
                  the geocities main page when i go there.

                  you're worse than those pla fuckers. grow up.


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                  Posted by: elf watch
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                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  This is interesting

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                  Posted by: PLA IS
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  PHAG LOVERS OF AMERICA


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                  Posted by: Amish
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  I used to lurk here a couple of months ago. I have been
                  offline for a while and just returned. What the hell is
                  happening here? This has been going on for a while, I
                  presume? Who is PLA? Are they responsible? Who is
                  queer? The PLA? Somebody has to tell me, this is too
                  good to miss!!Is the PLA one of those "it's ok to have
                  sex with kids" groups? Why would kids want to trash
                  this forum? Most of the people here are here because
                  they have seen the cruel things that adults sometimes
                  do to children. We want to see justice done and the
                  guilty ones fry. Why don't they go trash forums that
                  feature people that they actually have a gripe with?
                  Someone who goes against everything they believe would
                  be a more satisfying target, I would think. Someone
                  please send me a clue!

                  Got my laptop in the buggy,
                  Amish

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                  Posted by: Clue?
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  You know as much as anyone as why. There is no why,
                  there is only who.



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                  Posted by: Athemysst
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Everyone got tired fighting. A lot of people went over
                  to the forum at Joshua-7.com. Like Mrs. Brady and
                  Murphy and others. Jameson. I don't know the exact
                  address, but I type www.joshua-7.com from my browser
                  address window and I get there with a couple of clicks.
                  Joshua-7 only has a few offerings and the forum is, I
                  suppose, "better" than this one.



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                  Posted by: Teacher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  What a lot of us were saying is true: there is one real
                  sick-o on this forum and It has taken over. Do the
                  math.

                  It's an incredible being. It opens one hundred windows
                  of threads, glues the same post into all of them and
                  clicks SUBMIT so that the poor forum is forced to
                  accept a hundred stupid posts on one thread.

                  It thinks this is SO SPECIAL. It thinks it is SO MUCH
                  SMARTER THAN THE REST OF US. It thinks that its own
                  CLEVERNESS is responsible for the Death of the Forum
                  and so it Rejoices. This person thinks that its own
                  pathology is a kind of SUPREME INTELLIGENCE.

                  Oh well.



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                  Posted by: BayB B
                  E-mail:
                  Location: 10:30pm cdt
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  About an hour and a half ago they went to joshua7 and
                  are trashing it as we speak.



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                  Posted by: on-line
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  They are brainless, clueless. They are not funny.
                  They are inarticulate. They seem to have no coherent
                  objection to this forum, other than that they think
                  it's dumb.

                  They are racist and anti-semitic

                  We've found their websites, and found "writings" by
                  them - incredibly tedious descriptions of how they
                  embarassed a telephone operator. They are people really
                  without any charm or talent. They just wreck things,
                  chosen at random. They could just as easily be writing
                  dirty words on the wall, or calling you in the middle
                  of the night repeatedly and saying "wrong number"

                  Their only talent is choosing easy targets.



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                  Posted by: BayB B
                  E-mail:
                  Location: 10:32pm cdt
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Teacher, it isn't so hard to figure out how they made
                  so many repeat posts. What is interesting is that it
                  took them so long to figure it out.



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                  Posted by: Athemysst
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  I know I, for one, gave up some time back. Others hung
                  in there longer. Then, in the last week or so, entropy
                  really set in. I think we're hovering at the line of
                  death. The whole process will repeat itself, faster, on
                  the Joshua forum. Does this have to happen? If the
                  murder is never solved, I guess it has to happen
                  sometime. We'll all get senile or something.

                  I thought there was more to say, somehow, but it became
                  impossible. There used to be a serious discussion of
                  abuse, children, law enforcement...I guess, like all
                  Americans, we'll forget until it hits again, and we'll
                  pray in the meantime it doesn't hit close to home.



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                  Posted by: GSH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  BayB B..Yep, they are taking over the Joshua Forum for
                  tonight...At least these hackers are destroying
                  cybersites, virtual people...Scary that this is what is
                  out there in our virtual world.



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                  Posted by: To Amish:
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  I'm not a rigid person, I even have a high level of
                  tolerance for mischief, but what's been happening here
                  is vulgar and interferes with the rights of others. I
                  would hate for a minor to post here and be spoken to by
                  this PLA person/persons.
                  Who knows if this person actually tries to contact
                  other posters? If there is a line between mischief and
                  pornography, this person has stepped over it.

                  Listed on thread below is a number for the FBI.
                  Apparently "interfering with the integrity of the
                  Internet" is within their domain.



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                  Posted by: Rosalie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Gee, and to think I went over there to get away from it
                  all.



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                  Posted by: To Amish:
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Normally I'm not a rigid person, but I believe the
                  person or persons who call themselves PLA have
                  stepped over the line from mischief to harrassment and
                  outright pornography. With all they've been doing, they
                  could even try to contact individual posters. I'm sure
                  that minors sometimes
                  scan here and have likely been the recipients of
                  lewd suggestions. Surely this is against the law?

                  Posted below is a number for the FBI. According to a
                  Website called Policing the Internet, interfering with
                  the integrity of the Internet
                  is within the FBI domain.



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                  Posted by: Imbackon
                  E-mail: That's it for me
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  After about 2 weeks of this, I've pretty much decided
                  that there can be no more cohesive conversation on the
                  forums regarding this case.
                  They've won, but in a sense I feel like I haven't
                  really lost. The superphreaker posting all this crap,
                  has probably done me a favor. I'm going to
                  give up on this case for awhile. Who knows if we
                  stop watching, maybe there will actually be an arrest
                  one of these days.
                  See ya when.



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                  Posted by: Teacher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  To BayB B.

                  You're absolutely right, my dear.



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                  Posted by: Astrologer
                  E-mail:
                  Location: 9:00PM PDT
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Athemysst, long time no type. We've missed you!

                  A former hippie, I never thought I'd say this, but I
                  now support Internet monitoring. It goes beyond
                  "Reckless typing with malicious intent."

                  Heavens knows we'd have a magnitude of witnesses here
                  at the Forum to testify against these Ridalin-deprived
                  Nintendo Brothers!



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                  Posted by: Friend
                  E-mail: here @ 10:00 pm CDT
                  Location: there
                  Posted on: Thursday August 21, 1997

                  Dan is collecting ISPs' as fast as they post on his
                  forum...action will be taken.



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                  Posted by: BayB B
                  E-mail:
                  Location: 11:45pm cdt
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I hate to be the bearer of sad news, but Longhornn just
                  reported that Dan's is down while he cleans up the mess
                  and I think they are back here.



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                  Posted by: N
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  So that's why joshua7 is down and this is up. They are
                  deliberately meeting the challenge because it is well
                  known that Dan deletes offensive posts. It is too bad.
                  They were a sedate group over there and just before it
                  went down I saw desaix, one of their most serious
                  posters, mock wartally for being vulgar. I guess that
                  enraged him and he gave orders to his troops to
                  destroy.

                  It is so calm here scrolling and seeing real posts with
                  real people.


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                  Posted by: Rosalie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Does anyone else see what I see? Maybe my time really
                  IS up...

       [This is in reference to Dan taking down the Joshua-7 JBR forum
        for the night. The spamming got so bad over there that Dan gave
        up for the night and replaced the discussion board with a large
        picture of the grim reaper and a message saying Go Away or
        something. Most of the BNFers assumed that the PLA had hacked
        into his site and put it there. ]

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                  Posted by: no ruthie
                  E-mail: not yet
                  Location: more to come
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  man i am really sick of these fools. what the hell is
                  their problem, like we care what the pla is, i dont
                  even know what the hell theyre talking about. so its
                  all wasted time to me, just scroll past the wierdos
                  everyday, not much real news about jbr anyway i
                  suppose, ps. yes whatyou saw ,was GRIM!!!



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                  Posted by: DON'T GO THERE
                  E-mail: visitor to joshua an hr. ago.
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Don't go to the joshua forum. Their hacking skills are
                  something to behold, but death threats are not my cup
                  of tea and should not be yours either. By morning Dan
                  should have it straightened out. A kind soul there
                  posted warnings about what was happening. Unfortunately
                  most of them are like little lambs and they click on
                  any link offered to them... I will not be going there
                  to see the carnage as I wish to keep my hard drive and
                  modem working.



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                  Posted by: FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  The PLA is not responsible for what is there now. The
                  person who runs the forum posted that threat. He was
                  going to bed and didn't want the forum to be overrun by
                  the juvenile threads so he shut it down for the night.
                  It will be up and running tomorrow. Don't give the PLA
                  any credit, they are nothing but wanna-bes. They are
                  not capable of serious hacking. They use threats to
                  scare people but aren't capable of carrying them out.
                  They hide behind modems and telephones and use them as
                  a means to harrass people because they are weak, plain
                  and simple. If they carried on the way they do face to
                  face with people they would be getting their asses
                  kicked on a regular basis. Don't be afraid of them.
                  Actions speak louder than words, and so far all they're
                  doing is talking. It's the only thing they know how to
                  do.



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                  Posted by: To FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  The PLA types are not just talking, they've ruined
                  two forums for everyone, and messed with people's
                  computers.

                  If the forum has learned anything, it should be that
                  bad people don;t stop just because you ignore
                  them. They take more liberties.

                  Fight back. Demand that they be traced. This is
                  illegal.



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                  Posted by: FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I meant they are not directly responsible for Joshua
                  being down. They didn't hack into it and bring it down,
                  the owner put it down for the night. Yes, they are
                  indirectly responsible for it being shut down because
                  they posted stupid threads. All I'm saying is that
                  there is no reason to fear them. They can't get inside
                  your computer. All they are capable of is posting
                  meaningless threads filled with trash and four letter
                  words. And that isn't saying much. I have yet to hear
                  of them actually getting into anyone's computer, if
                  it's happened let me know. Chances are, it never
                  happened and people are so paranoid they think it has.
                  Just because your browser crashes or you get an error
                  message does not mean they are doing anything to you.
                  Things like this happen all the time.



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                  Posted by: to FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  you don't know us so step off

                  don't know abut many others here but I seem to have a
                  lot people pissed at me in real life
                  by things that I said to them(in person)
                  99 percent can not do anything about

                  I always say"if they are as well armed as me just
                  gonna have to see"



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                  Posted by: FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Yes I know you, you are a little chicken shit. If you
                  are so brilliant, hack into my computer. Go ahead. See,
                  you can't. I am much better armed than you you little
                  runt. And you better watch your back, because it's that
                  1 percent that can do something about it that will do
                  something about it.



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                  Posted by: Aussie
                  E-mail:
                  Location: joshua forum
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Who are these PLA what is it and how is they can
                  cause so much damage.
                  Who put the grim reaper on the page ???



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                  Posted by: To FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  You're right. They are only capable of stupid stuff
                  like obscenities and the like. They probably don't even
                  know what a root user is. C'mon "hackers"-- if you're
                  so clever tell us all what a root user is.



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                  Posted by: To You Don't Know Us"
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Tell it to the FBI when they look you up for
                  obscenity pornography, and interfering with
                  the integrity of the Internet.

       [The term "obscenity pornography" is referring to a tasteless
        picture someone was posting into the messages on the joshua-7
        forum. Someone had pasted jonbenet's head onto the body of a
        naked woman. Whoever did it put some effort into it because
        it looked real. ]

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                  Posted by: To FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I'm not afraid of these people. They haven't done
                  anything to my computer. But they've interfered
                  with my right to use the forum. They've created
                  a public nuisance, the same as people who deface
                  property, or make obscene phone calls, or stalk
                  people. So why should we put up with it, just
                  because it's happening in communications and not
                  "on the street?"



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                  Posted by: It's not your forum
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  It's BNF's.



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                  Posted by: to FYI
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  SHUT UP AND SUCK ME AND MY ARAB DOG OFF

                  YOU TWO BIT WHITE TRAILER TRASH MUTT

                  HOPE YOU GET AIDS IN YOUR SLEEP AND IT TAKES

                  ALL YOUR SAVINGS TRYING TO FIGHT IT



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                  Posted by: It Seems
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  That everytime their lack of intelligence is pointed
                  out, their only defence is to resort to obscenity.
                  ---some defence!


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                  Are you there Shohani?
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                  Posted by: a fan
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  You are sorely missed. Surely John and Patsy haven't
                  gotten to you and thrown you in a basement?

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                  Posted by: Another fan
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I think she's tracking down the people who are trashing
                  this forum. Don't know if you caught her post about the
                  legal thing but if that doesn't work, my guess is
                  she'll find another way. It will be interesting to see
                  what happens. God bless her if she actually gets on to
                  a workable angle.



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                  Posted by: shohani
                  E-mail: ***
                  Location: ***
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  This is a test to see if I can post this message from
                  the ACLU.



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                  Posted by: shohani
                  E-mail: ***
                  Location: ***
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  My computer is really screwed up this a.m.

                  O.K., today I received a reply from the ACLU, and
                  I was happy to learn that what is happening here
                  is against the law according to the Federal
                  Communications Act of 1986.
                  The act is 56 pages long, but the sections that
                  pertain to us were highlighted and I will try to
                  copy them here. (Bear w/me you know I only use
                  two finger)
                  SECTI0N 2701. Unlawful access to electronically
                  stored communications.
                  (a) OFFENSE--Except as provided in subsection (c) of
                  this section whoever...obtains, alters or
                  PREVENTS AUTHORIZED ACCESS (Caps mine) shall be
                  punished as provided in subsection (b) of this
                  section.

                  (b)PUNISHMENT--The punishment for an offense
                  under subsection (a) of this section is:
                  (1)If the offense is commited for purposes
                  of malicious destruction or damage...(other stuff
                  that doesn't pertain to us)

                  (A) A fine of not more than $250,000 or
                  imprisonment of not more than one year, or both,
                  in the case of a first offense under this sub-
                  paragraph; and...(it goes on about a fine of two years
                  for any subsequent offense, etc.

                  Bottom line is we have a case which I will file
                  tomorrow as a class action suit and the gov. has two
                  years to resolve it--I just hope these kids parents
                  have really nice houses they can sell to pay us, don't
                  you?



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                  Posted by: shohani
                  E-mail: ***
                  Location: ***
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Will someone let me know if this got thru? The who BNF
                  is fucked up on my computer, just large empty white
                  space where blue used to be... and slow....so
                  slow....also, if someone wouldn't mind, and so I don't
                  hate to keep typing this legal stuff all day, could
                  someone cut & paste it and keep it sort of near the top
                  so everyone can see it? Thanks in advance. Sho



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                  Posted by: shohani
                  E-mail: ***
                  Location: ***
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I thought I was paranoid, but I guess not. When I
                  posted the above I was using the screen name "shohani"
                  and the whole forum page was messed up. It was just a
                  sea of white and I had to guess where the lines should
                  be to type a message--ain't this a bitch?
                  Fortunately, everything is documented in the archives,
                  so all this crap will be a piece of cake to
                  prove....happy days are (almost) here again..
                  I JUST LOVE A GOOD FIGHT, ESPECIALLY IF IT INVOLVES
                  LITIGATION--MAKES ME FEEL SO SELF-RIGHTEOUS!



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                  Posted by: shohani
                  E-mail: ***
                  Location: ****
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I used to get so pissed when the BNF archived all the
                  crap along with the good threads because it took so
                  long to download. This morning I'm saying, Thank God!
                  Thank God! Thank God!
                  off to mek a pot of coffee & wait & see if someone
                  replies so I'll know this is getting thru...



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                  Posted by: hi shohani!
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Your lawsuit sounds like fun.



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                  Posted by: shohani
                  E-mail: ***
                  Location: ***
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Thanks for responding, sometimes I make threads and
                  posts and they disappear before I even get a chance to
                  check them out...at least I know this one got thru...I
                  knew this had to be illegal.
                  I think there is even more we can do in Civil
                  court--harrassment charges, etc. I'll find out more
                  today.



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                  Posted by: To Sho:
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Don't know when you posted this info? but it sounds
                  good to me, go girl! Going to get my cup of java, will
                  check later as its just after 7 am.



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                  Posted by: shohani
                  E-mail: ***
                  Location: ***
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I started about 3:30 this a.m. on the west coast.
                  It's now 5:45a.m.
                  Have been reading Cornwell's latest book, "Cause of
                  Death" unless you're a diehard fan, don't bother, it's
                  boring--and whoever thought forensic pathology could be
                  boring?

                  Anyway, I forgot to post this info earlier.
                  The above actions are prohibited under the Electronic
                  Communications Privacy Act of 1986.
                  Under the Codes, Statutes, and Regulations Section of
                  Senate Bill (S.2575)

                  If you want your own copy, write to:
                  Senate Document Room
                  Hart Senate Office Bldg. Boo4
                  Washington, D.C. 20510-7016



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                  Posted by: Jay
                  E-mail:
                  Location: Fla
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Go git em, Shohani.

                  I think they met their match, or better!



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                  Posted by: Dying Laughing
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  $250,000 fine for trashing a Bulletin Board that can
                  easily keep anyone out they want.

                  Shohani, you are sooooo full of crap. Lying Bitch!



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                  Posted by: you got to take a number
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  if a nigga like me is going under you fools

                  will have to take a number and call for back up



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                  Posted by: Web searcher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  You don't have to write to the Senate to get a vopy,
                  almost all laws that pertain to the Internet are online
                  somewhere. A fast search using infoseek found a few
                  copies of the ECPA, including one at
                  http://w3.one.net/~smadigan/free/text/ecpa.txt

                  Have fun reading!


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                  Posted by: Scared
                  E-mail: to
                  Location: death
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Some of you say you posted on there forum and one of
                  you say you posted 1,000s of kisses X. Your not afraid
                  to post on there forum? They said they can capture our
                  address. Does that mean they can send someone a virus?
                  They are to scary for me. I am staying far away from
                  them. I think they can do real mean things to us. I
                  hate them so much. They ruined our forum and theres not
                  diddly we can do.

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                  Posted by: Don't worry
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  That's just what they want you to think. They can't do
                  anything to you. They act big and tough but they are
                  just little boys.



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                  Posted by: Yes, and
                  E-mail: little boys
                  Location: with too
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  much time on their hands, too. Soon their first report
                  cards will be coming in and they will again be called
                  on the carpet for being failures.



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                  Posted by: ---
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  To: Scared

                  Hi RBCP!



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                  Posted by: Don't Be Afraid
                  E-mail: they can't
                  Location: do anything
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  You don't have to be afraid. Read "Are you there,
                  shohani?" its a few threads down. Also, be happy if
                  they do e-mail you because all you have to do is
                  highlight it abd forward it to TO8Email1.
                  Their account will be pulled.



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                  Posted by: turbowolf1
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  shut up and come over and blow me and my arab dog

                  screw you with a AIDs infested nigger alien dick

                  hope you burn in hell with jesus for all the nasty

                  things that are on your little minds



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                  Posted by: To Turbowolf
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  You silly ineffective little jerk. Don't you know
                  anything but obscenity? The FBI will soon be knocking
                  on your door.



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                  Posted by: They Are Making Death Threats!
                  E-mail: @Boulder News - Call The FBI!
                  Location: Look At Joshua-7.com Forum!
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997


                  Boycott This Forum and All Forums!
                  Return to the Opinion forum index page

                  Posted by: They Are Making Death Threats!
                  E-mail: @Boulder News - Call The FBI!
                  Location: Look At Joshua-7.com Forum!
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  http://www.joshua-7.com/jonbenet.htm
                  FBI - Talk To Dan AT THE ABOVE URL!!
                  He will explain What is happening at his forum, it is
                  like what's happenning here!
                  AT 1:20 AM Central Time On August 22, 1997,
                  Someone breached the security at
                  http://www.joshua-7.com/jonbenet.htm
                  The hackers,a.k.a. Phone Losers Of America
                  (PLA)Are suspected Of This Crime!!
                  CALL THE FBI NOW!!
                  "interfering with the integrity of the Internet"
                  is within their domain!! THIS IS VERY ILLEGAL!!
                  DEATH THREATS AGAINST THE READERS
                  AND POSTERS OF JOSHUA 7.COM AND
                  BOULDER NEWS FORUM, IS ILLEGAL!!

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                  Posted by: Ya Right
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  The PLA knows the laws, we have never threatened death.



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                  Posted by: Hawaii 5-0ers
                  E-mail: Didn't hide it good enough
                  Location: everywhere
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Please fellow Forum members read this page to see that
                  it is the PLA whose trashing this Forum.

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                  Dedicated to all those striving detective Hawaii
                  5--0ers from the BNF

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                  All pages made by myself were produced with a cute
                  little ASCII editor known fondly as Super Notepad.
                  Kinda quirky with keyboard controls, but the neato icon
                  makes up for that. Get it here.
                  Super Notepad

                  Ramsey Links:
                  The infamous BNF
                  Another forum for when BNF gets dull (this link
                  is to the Joshua forum)

                  Where did all this nonsense begin, you ask yourself? Go
                  fucking answer yourself.
                  PLA~~Home of your hell~~PLA
                  Click on the ChiliPeppers! (this is the one
                  that if you clicked on a pepper a new thread
                  was created on BNF)
                  RBCP worship. Warning, nauseating!
                  Someone makes a PLA hate page. Not very talented.
                  I am, however, laughing my ass off at the descriptions
                  of the people I credit on this very page. Learn HTML
                  and you'll be pretty cool!

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                  Thanks to Dirk Dirty, r0y_gerbil, and my mother
                  (Seriously. Yes I have a mother, so what if she
                  fornicated with Satan?) for supplying my graphics.
                  All the loving, caring people that made and will
                  continue to make your precious forum a nightmare for
                  the rest of its existance: Tannest, LogicBox, W1rehead,
                  Sabastian Rhiufshien, r0y_gerbil, GlueGirl, SUT,
                  Spessa, Forum Pal, ooops, our new god Havok_, others I
                  can't think of....

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                  It seems that it's time to clear something up for all
                  you elderlies. I left my mother and father sitting in
                  thier suburban home wondering where the fuck I was in
                  1992, at the humble age of 15. Yes, I'm 21. That should
                  narrow your search for me down quite a bit.
                  Often times, I wish I hadn't done that. Foresight is a
                  wonderful thing. My mother cooked some really fantastic
                  meals and I got a standard allowance that I could spend
                  as I pleased! Damn, that was really stupid of me. I
                  thank you all for getting me thinking about that,
                  because I haven't thought about it in a long time. I
                  think I'd better have my mom come look at this page,
                  feel sorry for me, she can see how ~sorry~ I am that I
                  left home and maybe she'll send me a care package or a
                  big fat check. To spend as I please. And maybe she can
                  answer this question....WHY THE FUCK WOULDN'T YOU LET
                  ME STAY OUT AFTER 11PM?? I'd probably still be
                  spongeing off of you if you would have just let me stay
                  out 'til 2am.
                  Any psychiatrists out there in the forum? (and not you
                  Linda. I didn't say "pseudo-psychiatrists".)

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                  Posted by: Dr Friedendorfer
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  After reviewing your case, my best advice is to kill
                  yourself as soon as possible.



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                  Posted by: This Kook...
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Sounds like the typical "poor me, my mommy wouldn't let
                  me run things at home, so I left..." young asshole. So?
                  Good for mommy. Why should parents have to put up with
                  ingrates forever?

                  So now, 'Sonny Boy', has a psychological problem with
                  mommies all over the net. Too Bad. Maybe it's about
                  time these kiddy losers find out that if you live at
                  home and being supported, you live by the rules of the
                  house. If they can't do this...boot their asses out,
                  and let them find out what 'making your way in the
                  world' REALLY means.

                  If these little sucks want to mess the forums up
                  because mommy wouldn't let them stay out past
                  eleven...it's their problem. Obviously, this jerk, even
                  at twenty-one isn't capable of being an adult__and as
                  much crap as he and his teenie bopper friends do all
                  day on-line, he's not capable of working, going to
                  school, or having friendships outside of the net and
                  the nerds.

                  LOL - This cremepuff is a loser_Big time.



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                  Posted by: Ditto
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Right On! No one has respect or compassion for a butt
                  head twenty-one that's still acting like an adolescent.
                  This low life is trapped in his own decisions...Too
                  Bad. So Sad...Learn to make better choices dumb ass, or
                  you'll be a perpetual thirteen year old the rest of
                  your life.

                  Signed,

                  Daddy and Mommy



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                  Posted by: So What did you do
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Bubblehead, steal a computer?

                  I'll bet your parents were really relieved that you
                  left and hope they never hear from you again.



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                  Posted by: duh
                  E-mail: duh
                  Location: duh
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Your right. Tannest and logicbox are the first names
                  listed in this guy's credits. Nice try Tannest and
                  Logicbox. It wasn't Linda WS ever. You just made that
                  up trying to make some one else look bad. But its you
                  two thats bad.



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                  Posted by: Bought a Computer, I have lotsa credit cards
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  That page was never hidden, you fucking imbecile. I
                  advertise that page and the link to that page here
                  EVERYDAY. Now you think you're a super sleuth becuase
                  you ACTUALLY went over to a page that is advertised
                  here 24/7? Cunning work, girls, maybe Columbo will come
                  pat you on the head

                  "I'd rather stay a child, and keep my self respect; if
                  being an adult MEANS BEING LIKE YOU!"

                  Better than I could have said it myself. Stay tuned.



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                  Posted by: Get it right
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Tannest claims no total innocence... Her point is that
                  LindaWS is almost as guilty, but you people refuse to
                  believe it.

                  Tannest freely admits to trashing this board.



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                  Posted by: TOO BAD YOU OLD FOLX HAVE TO CARE
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  What about when I was pimping my ass out on the streets
                  of Missoula Montana to all the homo boys there that
                  could pay for the action? DO YOU FEEL SORRY ABOUT THAT?
                  You'd better or I'll have to come re-enact the whole
                  scene in front of your repulsed oogling eyes. I love
                  hot gay sex and I want more! My loose anus begs for a
                  hot injection of big manly meat. Maybe I'll get your
                  husbands meat(you know...those guys who don't pay any
                  attention to you anymore because they're tired of the
                  busy-body you've turned into.) You probably talk their
                  ears off all day about the excitement on the forum,
                  while they stare at you blankly and try to tune you out
                  so they can follow their golf game. I will get that man
                  to have my ass, in any way he pleases. Til then....have
                  fun yappin in vain.



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                  Posted by: hahahahahahahaahahah
                  E-mail: ahahahahhahaahahahahha
                  Location: hahahahahahahahahaha
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  hhahahahahahahahahha



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                  Posted by: To: Too Bad, Indeed
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  No, I don't feel sorry for you in any way. If you were
                  a decent person, you would never have been doing what
                  you claim to have done in Missoula, Montana, much less
                  anywhere else.

                  As for credit cards, everybody has credit cards. Where
                  did you get yours, steal them?

                  Contrary to what you believe, most men are not gay and
                  would bash your face in if you made advances to them.
                  In fact, I hope that happens to you all of the time,
                  you dunce.

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                  Posted by: Bewildered and Battered
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I don't think anyone who looks like that could
                  genuinely be responsible for all this havok. I think
                  someone is using those pictures as a ruise. That girl
                  in the pictures probably has no idea that her
                  photographs are being slandered like this.

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                  Posted by: Infoseeker
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  I didn't see the pictures as Dan deletes all their
                  posts within minutes. However, I have seen her pictures
                  and she is young and pretty with long hair. There is
                  one of her at work in shorts; one on an ottoman at home
                  dressed up and one head closeup. From their web sites
                  it appears she is Logic Box's girlfriend. Logic Box
                  seems to be about 17. Though she just might be their
                  mascot, leader, den mother, whatever.

                  Yes, some of the PLA are girls. And as the archived
                  threads show, she was part of this forum as well as
                  part of the PLA. Unless early members explain, we can't
                  know how she was welcomed into the irc channels and
                  this board, since the archives weren't started until
                  January 26 and occasional threads were deleted after
                  (not many, but some). There seems to be a fine line
                  between PLA and "Regular forum poster" in the early
                  days.

                  Any oldtimers want to enlighten those of us who weren't
                  here then?

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                  Posted by: elf watch
                  E-mail: elfie
                  Location: nowhere
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  It seems that our discussion forum has been left alone
                  for over 8 hours now. Could it be that all our
                  complaining finally got their net access taken away?
                  Rejoice everyone! We did it!

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                  Posted by: Yuck
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  You are seriously messed up, and even more jealous.
                  Tannest has fun, wherever and whatever she's doing.

                  Maybe the PLA is bored with you now.... Certainly no
                  one's access has been compromised.



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                  Posted by: Yuck = Tannest
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  Nice try. There is nothing for me to be jealous of.
                  Unlike you, I don't depend on this forum for pleasure,
                  I can go out in the real world and interact with real
                  people. I don't have to hide behind a computer. LOL



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                  Posted by: Tannest
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Oregon
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  LOL

                  Oh ya, I bet.

                  And what makes you think I don't? You don't know
                  anything about my real life, not even any of you idiots
                  I talked to for months.

                  You guys are really sad. And hypocritical, at least I
                  admit what I have done. The rest of you losers liked to
                  play and raise hell and slam jameson, etc... as long as
                  I was there to be blamed for it.

                  You really suck. And you know who you are.



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                  Posted by: I am Tannest
                  E-mail: and
                  Location: wow
                  Posted on: Friday August 22, 1997

                  do I have fun. Got more men and more money and more
                  time and more music and more shadow dancing than I can
                  handle. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!



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                  Posted by: LOL at Linda
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  Oh yes Queen L.

                  I wish I could be you!

                  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



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                  Posted by: Oh Really?
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  If you have a life why are you spending a Friday night
                  on the computer talking to us? The people you call
                  hypocrites? The people you have talked to for months?
                  Do you realize how pathetic that sounds? You call us
                  names, say we are pathetic, but you just can stay away,
                  can you Tannest? Admit it, you're in it more than we
                  are. We come here and talk about the case and then we
                  leave and go about with our lives. But not you. This is
                  your obsession. You're the one who's sick Tannest. LOL.



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                  Posted by: You stupid asses
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  Um... I work 9 hours a day. I don't come here then, and
                  what I do with my Friday nights is really none of your
                  business.

                  Have fun here tonight.



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                  Posted by: Tannest
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Oregon
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  Besides, it's not my fault I have huge teeth and a face
                  like a horses.



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                  Posted by: Didn't you hear?!?!!
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  There's a Noxema conference in town! Where else would
                  they be?????



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                  Posted by: Tannest
                  E-mail: tan
                  Location: est
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  hey look at this! i don't like people telling the truth
                  about me so i am going to spam the bnf again tonight to
                  get rid of the threads that tell the truth! nobody will
                  ever know it happened and that i date little kids for a
                  living!



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                  Posted by: Noxema
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  We took one look at these kids and realized there is no
                  way we can make a product strong enough to rid them of
                  their acne. Of course when then realized there was no
                  hope they went crying to their mommy. Wait...what? That
                  was their GIRLFRIEND??? All of those pimply teenagers
                  were dating that fat ass middle age chic? Oh MAN that's
                  nasty.



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                  Posted by: +
                  E-mail: +
                  Location: +++
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  This really is SAD!! Nothing to do on a Friday night
                  but hunch over their little 'puters and trash old
                  ladies's forum talk? Hope things get better for you
                  kids.



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                  Posted by: Tannest
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: Oregon
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  I'm so lonely,
                  talk to meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
                  SEND ME MAIL. That's the only reason I post my address.
                  I HAVE NO FRIENDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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                  Posted by: To LOL
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  If I tell you something, do you promise that you won't
                  let it hurt your feelings?

                  You promise?

                  Okay. Now, don't let this upset you, but first of all,
                  you cannot believe everything people tell you. Like,
                  maybe they might LIE to you.

                  Southerners don't lie, but a Northerner might!

                  Also, a human being is an upright creature who needs at
                  least five hours sleep a night.

                  If a humanoid posts to a number of forums all hours of
                  the night, and day, and never gets any sleep, it is
                  time to get the old detective hat on and start
                  thinking.....

                  Why?

                  Why?

                  Why, you might ask yourself, doesn't that person need
                  any sleep?

                  Could it maybe be there is MORE than one person? Could
                  there be two? Maybe three? Maybe five? Maybe ten?
                  And could they all have a reason for posting? And do
                  you notice that some days and nights they post, and
                  other days and nights they don't?

                  And have you noticed any pattern about when they post,
                  and can you figure out what that pattern means?

                  And do you think that they might be working at
                  something you know nothing about, and they might have a
                  reason for doing so, besides the obvious fun they are
                  having?

                  These are the kinds of questions little girls have to
                  ask themselves if they want to grow up to be able to
                  solve murder mysteries.



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                  Posted by: Whatever...
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  Take some Prozac or something, and shut the fuck up
                  already...



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                  Posted by: To whatever
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  If anyone ever accuses you of being an intellectual,
                  you let me know and I'll deal with them.

                  In the meantime, take your heartworm pill, have your
                  anal sacs expressed (maybe T can do that for you) and
                  eat shit.



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                  Posted by: Hmmm...
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  I smell FAG........


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              Posted by: Gretta VanSustren
              E-mail: [email protected]
              Location: CNN Center, Atlanta, GA
              Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997


              yep! it has provided me with many laughs and countless pages
              documenting the inbred nature of today's society...mainly...
              you. the tabloid friuts and nutcases devoted to a cause that
              even the most desparate parties ACTUALLY INVOLVED in the case
              would just as soon ask you to mind your own buisness. perhaps
              the PLA left because reason. they examined the drive behind
              your postings, the lack of intellegence in what you wrote...
              their attention span ran out...while yours still festers and
              rots along, not knowing where to find another scandal to
              leech existence from. get out more. fly a kite, ride a bike,
              read a book (perhaps that's pushing it). please, i only hope
              to never become the way you people are. i don

              yours truly, Gretta.

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              Posted by: Logic
              E-mail:
              Location:
              Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

              Hi, PLA person. It is a good parody of "Gretta" but you
              consistently show yourselves to be more obsessed than we are
              by criticizing what we do with our leisure time: discussing
              the case.



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              Posted by: Tannest
              E-mail:
              Location:
              Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

              I am blushing. I am REALLY blushing. Because of my great
              beauty and fabled intelligence, I have inspired a great deal
              of enthusiastic worship in my brief life, but the above post
              was as vibrantly enthusiastic as a [message garbled] THANKS
              for all the exclamation points, and I only hope I can continue
              to live up to your expectations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              Posted by: Yay
              E-mail: It's
              Location: over
              Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997


              Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
              The Forum Wins!

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              Posted by: skeptic
              E-mail: color
              Location: me
              Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

              How do you figure? Who keeps posting all these joshu-7 threads?



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              Posted by: Caution
              E-mail:
              Location:
              Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

              The title of this thread looks like a call to arms, folks.
              Buckle your seatbelt.


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                  Posted by: �
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  OK, we know that threads titled with PLA, or about
                  Joshua's, or weired topics we should stay off of, but
                  now we must be even more careful which of the BNF
                  threads we click on, as some are damaging another forum
                  as well as ours and are self replicating all the junk.
                  Just a heads up

       [This is paranoia speaking. The PLA did not create anything of the
        sort, they just didn't know how else to explain all the spam. ]

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                  Posted by: Take a Screen Shot
                  E-mail: of
                  Location: This Page @ 3:24 EDT
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  None of these threads generated any new threads for the
                  past hour. I've clicked on everyone several times and
                  posted on most as well.

                  The only new threads created during this time were
                  created by posters to this forum that are on this forum
                  except for the http:\\joshua-7 threads which , I think,
                  are created by someone clicking on the e-mail address
                  posted by the "concerned" poster over at Joshua-7.
                  David is working on this.

                  Your caution is well advised though, in case I am
                  mistake.

                  friend


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                  Posted by: Granny Pritchard
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  Guess what? We're still here. You didn't run us off. Oh
                  sure, you made us grannies work a little harder - but
                  not as hard as you did. This afternoon you made it
                  tough, but while you were here, I went to the beach.
                  Now I'm back posting as if nothing ever happened.

                  So you made life difficult for some old ladies on a
                  small town newspaper forum. This is a proud
                  accomplishemnt for you, I'm sure. You have shown
                  yourself to be racist, anti-semitic and childishly
                  obscene. Again, I can tell you are quite proud of this.

                  Here's a thought for you. Why not build on your
                  success? The New York times has forums. Microsoft has
                  forums. There are forums for skin heads and Neo nazis.
                  When you are finished here, why don't you try one of
                  those? Tell the Aryan Nation about your weenies. Try
                  your chili peppers on Microsoft.

                  Go ahead, you little scuzzball fruits. Show us how cule
                  you really are.

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                  Posted by: Billie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Saturday August 23, 1997

                  Yes!


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                  Posted by: hELLO
                  E-mail: AM I THE ONLY ONE WHOSE NOTICED?
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Haven't any of you noticed that the repetitive thread
                  today is the one with the Joshua url? No doubt the boys
                  at the PLA have now rigged the Joshua forum to make a
                  thread over here on this forum every time someone
                  either signs on to the Joshua forum or makes a post
                  over there. Will someone that goes to the Joshua forum
                  please ask him to look for that kind of PLA set up in
                  his system so that he can possibly fix it. Or maybe
                  everyone should just stop going over there for a few
                  days so the PLA won't get such a chuckle over our gross
                  stupidity.

                  I'm so sick over all of these PLA games I could just
                  spit.

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                  Posted by: nice try
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  you are so transparent



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                  Posted by: WHAT?
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Transparent? I don't get it. I'm just trying to avoid
                  having 100 threads on this forum with the Joshua url on
                  it. I'm trying to find an answer to the problem, not
                  cause one.



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                  Posted by: I wish
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  you would spit. Maybe that would get it out of you
                  system and you out of ours.



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                  Posted by: Sure
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  No sooner had the URL been posted for joshua that the
                  majority of posters went over there as a temporary
                  escape. And you pathetic losers followed and tried to
                  badger us as always but you were stopped. And now your
                  biggest fear has been reliazed, that we will leave you
                  and you will have no one to torment. So you try and
                  scare us away from Joshua and stay here.



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                  Posted by: Okay you pathetic paranoid
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Please explain to me how you think one Joshua URL
                  thread after another is being created on our forum. I
                  don't care where anywhere posts on the entire internet.
                  I just hate seeing 100 out of 150 threads on this forum
                  being the Joshua URL today. It's not me that's mad.
                  It's the PLA. They have been blocked from posting on
                  the Joshua forum so that have invented a way for anyone
                  posting over there to damage our threads. Post at the
                  Joshua forum all you want. I will just adjust to the
                  l00 threads a day with that title.



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                  Posted by: DUH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  They have a page where they click on links that
                  automatically post threads. Remeber the Click the Chili
                  Pepper Page? Same idea, but after someone complained
                  and the Chili Page was taken down they put it up
                  somewhere else. But this time they aren't giving out
                  the URL so it can't be taken down.



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                  Posted by: TO DUH
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Why don't you try a little experiment. Count the number
                  of Joshua URL threads above this one. Then at your own
                  convenience when no one knows you are doing it go over
                  to the Joshua forum and post anything and then come
                  right back over here and see if there is one extra
                  Joshua url thread on this forum. Then we will know I am
                  either right or wrong.



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                  Posted by: LOL
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Yeah, RIGHT! You know where the page is because YOU are
                  one of THEM! So I go over there post and while I'm gone
                  you click and boom! Another thread! Nice try, but no
                  dice. I already tried that, when all the truly paranoid
                  people said that's what was happening. And nothing
                  changed over here! There is no way they could rig it up
                  that way unless they hacked into the BNF or Joshua, and
                  they sure hate to be called hackers! The truth is, they
                  are not that clever.



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                  Posted by: LOL
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Besides, check out the last time someone posted over on
                  joshua compared to the time the threads were posted
                  here. There's no way man.



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                  Posted by: Nerd Watcher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  What's a Nerd? A Nerd is a loser, a pathetic specimen
                  of mankind that isn't accepted by the majority, so they
                  ( it ) causes trouble whereever it goes for ATTENTION.
                  So, a Nerd is an attention seeker, intent on causing
                  havoc anyplace they know they're not welcomed.

                  What we have in this forum, are one or two Nerds that
                  have no social life because they don't fit in with the
                  majority. This forum, as some of the others, are a
                  place they ( the its ) can raise havoc, and NOT be
                  detected. UNLESS, of course, they run up against
                  someone that knows their little games, and how to
                  redirect the BS they pull BACK on them. These people
                  (and I use the term 'people' loosly), are going to meet
                  their waterloo one of these days from someone going on
                  a nerd hunt.LOL

                  The net is only anonomous to people that DON'T know
                  where to start looking. So far, even the novice know
                  that these NERDS are teeners that are now back in
                  school, and only have time to play in the evenings and
                  weekends. Poor little nerdies_they don't have weekends
                  scheduled for anything but messing with forums on their
                  little computers. I bet when they're not playing in the
                  forums, they're standing in front of the mirror
                  squeezing their pimples, jacking off in their bedrooms
                  (they LOVE those sex sites), or adjusting their high
                  risers. These people are the same ones that make
                  obnoxious phone calls, breathe hard, and then hang up.
                  Why? _ because in real life, these people are cowards
                  and misfits.

                  So, the only thing to do, is ignore their antics. Keep
                  on posting, but completely ignore the nerds regardless
                  of what they post or do. As long as serious posters in
                  this forum continue to complain or react to these
                  little nerdies, the longer they will continue to
                  provoke. Remember, these people are USELESS members of
                  society that have NO spines, and their days are
                  definitely numbered ANYWHERE they show up.



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                  Posted by: Techie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  No way going n Joshua affects anything here. PLA just
                  want you to think that. The fact that the URL appears
                  in the automatically created threads name has nothing
                  to do with where the thread was created.

                  Go to Dan's page and get ready to create a post. Hit
                  "view" / "view source" on your browser. Look at the
                  HTML. You don't have to understand HTML.
                  Read it and you'll see there's no reference to the BNF
                  URL.

                  This is coming from the chili pepper page. We don't
                  know where it is. They can put any text they want in
                  it. Right now they are using Dan's URL to scare people
                  away from there.


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                  Ward, I'm a little worried about The Beaver
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                  Posted by: tWiT
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: slobber's island, ky
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  He's been sitting in his room night and day, every day
                  on that internet thing. Him and his girlfriend have
                  taken to calling themselves RedBox and ChillyPecker,
                  and I'm afraid they might be up to no good. Go up and
                  talk to him, will ya, hah?

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                  Posted by: tWiT
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  I'm sorry June, I thought you meant our SON the beaver.


       [HAHAHAHAHA. Now THAT was funny. ]

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                  Posted by: elf watch
                  E-mail: [email protected]
                  Location: The 10th level of hell
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  PLA PLA PLA - don't you just tire of those letters? I'm
                  helping to put them all behind bars, don't worry about
                  a thing!

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                  Posted by: elf watcher
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Go play your games with the other nerds. We don't give
                  a f--k what happens to the PLA, OR what disgusting
                  games YOU want to play with them.

                  STOP making useless threads in this Forum. What's the
                  matter? Can't get a date for the weekend, so you have
                  to play anonomously in the Forums? That's your
                  problem__Work on it.

                  Loose weight, dry up those pimples, start dressing in
                  appropriate attire, take some lessons on social
                  graces__Do something to upgrade yourself INSTEAD of
                  playing your nerdie little games in a forum dedicated
                  to the memory of a little girl that was brutally
                  murdered. How much fun is that?


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                  Posted by: Observer
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  If you go to the PLA WWW Board and Dan's Discussion
                  Board you will see both of them are involved with Matt
                  Wright. He is involved in making both web pages. This
                  is beyond coincidental.

                  I think I smell a rat.

       [Ho boy, here they go again... ]

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                  Posted by: Techie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Matt Wright is well known on the net for his web site
                  "Matt Wright's Script Archive" This is a great website
                  where you can get CGI scripts (a kind of program) for
                  things like forums, guest books, counters etc. This
                  gives people who are not programmers a way to add these
                  services to their web sites.

                  It's not a coincidence at all. So many people get there
                  forum software from there. You see it all over the web.
                  Nothing fishy.



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                  Posted by: Observer
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Then why did shohani put his name in her lawsuit? I saw
                  more than one thread with his name in it last week and
                  she said he worked with the PLA.



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                  Posted by: Techie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  The PLA has succeeded in making everyone so paranoid. I
                  know you'll be afraid if to go to a URL I put here, so
                  just do an Alta Vista search on "Matt Wright" You can
                  just read the refrences that come up. You'll see
                  thousands of websites with guest books etc using his
                  CGI scripts.



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                  Posted by: Techie
                  E-mail:
                  Location:
                  Posted on: Sunday August 24, 1997

                  Here's the URL for anyone who is not afraid:
                  http://www.worldwidemart.com/scripts/

                  This is a wonderful web resource. I'm sure shohani
                  misunderstood when she saw Matt Wright credited on the
                  PLA page. For once the PLA showed the good manners to
                  give credit where credit is due, just as Dan did.




That's it, kids. See you in the next edition of Boulder News Frenzy.