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Driving without a license - TO DEATH ROW!

[APFN] I talked to Linda and George just days before they left
Florida. A few week sor so before what happend below, they had
written "We have drawn the line in the sand" - It was about what
was happening in Waco... I have that letter in my files, the last
time I read it I cried. An APFN fax network Advisor Pat Sutton
followed the situtation, keeping in close contact with Linda and
George's soon as I can make phone calls, I'll follow-up & give
you a update. After all this time I am still in shock over this.
I am praying they are still on DEATH ROW.
I am almost affaird to know the answer! //klv

>http://www.ILLUSIONS.COM/OPF/GL931025.htm
>
>We have all thought, somewhere along the line, what we would do if
>confronted by certain situations. These "fantasies" are something that
every patriot must think about. What would happen if that "fantasy" were
to
come true? How would you react? What had you anticipated? Would you
realize that >you had less time than you thought to come to terms with
the situation, and to REACT? As you read this story, please try to
place yourself in a similar situation, one that might be predicated
on your lifestyle and habits. What would you do?
>
>Transcribed conversation of October 25, 1993:
>
>It must have come as a shock to everyone who knows us, George Sibley and
>Lynda Lyon, to hear or read that we had gunned down a police officer, in
>cold blood. Some may have wondered if we possibly could have done such a
>thing. Others would say that we would never have done such a thing without
>cause. Some have already turned their backs on us.
>
>When George and I, along with my son, packed the car and left Florida
it was for one purpose, to leave the dangerous and stressful situation
where arrest hung over our heads, and to give some friends some time
to prepare the paperwork we needed to file a stop action on the judges
order. These friends had volunteered to do this, and even passed a hat
for us for the filing fees. We had expected the paperwork to be filed
in three days. It wasn't!

>The arrest warrant was issued and we knew it was a matter of days, even
>hours. Still trusting that the paperwork would be prepared and ready, as
>promised, we intended to be gone no longer than a week. No papers were
>filed, or even prepared. We realized, with heavy hearts, that our friend's
>inaction had just made us fugitives. Still George and I hoped we could
still file the paperwork ourselves, somehow. Unfortunately, we had never
planned for this contingency. We trusted to much on the word of those
who
had, so casually , volunteered their help.
>
>For a month we stayed with some out of state friends, or in cheap motels,
>while, desperately trying to find a way to resolve this mess. We had no
>choice now but to find a new place to live, with new names. Out of state,
>the only people we feared were the bounty hunters. And we knew how ruthless
>they could be.
>
>We were in Opelika, Alabama and spent a few days there. It's a rather
>impoverished town with little opportunity. We decided to try the Mobile
>area. The morning we decided to leave Opelika, I stopped in front of
>Wal-Mart to make an important call to Orlando. George had parked the car
>about four spaces down so I couldn't see the car from where I was standing.
>George and my son stayed in the car.
>
>George's own words:
>
>After a few minutes I noticed a police car driving around in the parking
>lot. After going down a few rows of cars the car stopped at the far side of
>the drive in back of our car. The policeman got out of his car and walked
>toward ours. He said, "Please step out of the car." Which I was already
>doing. He then asked me for a driver's license. I explained I had none as I
>had no contracts with the state. He then told me to put my hands on the car,
>and I hesitated, as I wished to explain further. He then asked if I had any
>ID, and I replied, "Yes, Sir, I do." He then told me to step away from the
>car, and I hesitated again, wishing to explain and get papers from the car.
>He asked, "Do you have a problem with that?" To which I replied, "Yes!" And,
>didn't get a chance to explain why as the policeman reached for his gun. I
>did not know what was on his mind, and was not thinking, at that point,
>about his being police, or not, just he is reaching for his gun. I,
>instinctively, reached for mine and that made the situation irreversible.
>
>The policeman, to my surprise, turned to his right nearly one hundred
>degrees and began running towards his car, hand on his gun. He could have
>turned and fired at any moment, and should have. I knew that once he reached
>cover behind his car he would certainly fire at me, so I fired then. Once he
>reached the car, and as I approached, he fired at me, hitting me in the left
>arm. I returned fire, and ducked. Lynda came to the scene at that time,
>having seen him fire at me, and fired three or four shots. I was on the
>officers side of the car at that time, with an empty gun. The policeman had
>gotten back in the car and driven away, using the radio.
>
>Lynda's own words:
>
>I was standing at the phone, I heard the shots and people running in panic.
>I turned and saw what was happening, dropped the phone and cried, "Oh. God,
>No! No!" I ran up behind the police car, drew my own gun and fired three or
>four shots at the officer. He turned to me in surprise and then got in his
>car and drove away.
>
>Although George and I tried to get out of the area quickly, we were not
>familiar with the roads and ran into a roadblock. After a four hour standoff
>with police, deputies, highway patrol and SWAT teams we finally decide to
>surrender. [Will cover the standoff later]
>
>No, we are not cold blooded killers. It was an unfortunate tragedy that
>could have been avoided if George had only been given a chance to show our
>papers. As hopeless as it appears, It is not as bad as it seems. Our
>attorneys have told us we have a good chance for acquittal. George and I
>intend to see this through with dignity and perseverance. Please pray for
>us.
>
>---
>
>George Sibley and Lynda Lyon are currently in the county jail,
>Lee County, Alabama.
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>http://www.ILLUSIONS.COM/OPF/GL931021.htm
>
>From: Gary Hunt at the Outpost of Freedom on the Golden Hill Paugeesukq
>Reservation Date: October 21, 1993
>
>SPECIAL REPORT
>
>Today I received a phone call. It was collect, but, as soon as I heard the
>operator, I knew that it was a call that I have been waiting for. I had been
>trying to get word in to the Lee County Jail so as to find out what had
>occurred just a few weeks ago. After all of this time, the prayers and
>thinking, worrying about them, I had finally heard from Lynda Lyon.
>
>Regarding this story, it had been pieced together from sources that have all
>been through the filter known as law enforcement (not to be confused with
>peace officers) and has been filtered about as much as the information that
>flowed across media airwaves, out of Waco, Texas, during March and April of
>this year.
>
>The report you are about to read is not inconsistent with what had
>previously been presented, but you will find that certain aspects now have
>details which would indicate a different scenario than before. There was no
>"domestic" call, nor was there justification to claim that any lawful call
>had been put out. George had been sitting in his car with their son. Lynda
>was making a phone call. The officer approached George, who was not driving,
>traveling, or anything but sitting in a car which had plates that said, "UCC
>1-207". The officer refused to listen to George explain that he was under
no
>contract, as a free Citizen of Florida, to have to produce a license in
>Alabama. The officer refused to even look at the paperwork that George had,
>explaining that there was no lawful requirement to produce a license for
>traveling on the roadways. The officer then informed George, without
benefit
>of George submitting the evidence, that he was under arrest. George was
>being denied his freedom by the actions of an officer that was not even
>assigned to traffic (a supply officer) but felt qualified to deny a free
man his freedom without investigating the matter. George got out of the
car,
and then balked. The officer reached for his gun but George was a bit
quicker.
>George and Lynda were defending their rights, as guaranteed by the
>Constitution, and did not allow the officer to deny them their freedom.
>
>Charlie Reese wrote an editorial a few months ago. In that piece he pointed
>out that we are becoming a nation where more and more crimes are committed
>by government under the guise of preventing crime on us (look at the
>statistics and see if it is working). He stated that police crime in this
>country is at an all time high. This is the criteria that is existent
>whenever people begin to loose their freedoms. As he said, "Government
crime is becoming more prevalent."
>
>What George and Lynda did is not much different than what David Koresh and
>the Branch Davidians did eight months ago. David's actions were in defense
>of every door in America that can be broken down ANY TIME! George and
>Lynda's actions were to deny "law enforcement" from stealing your rights to
>travel freely in this country.
>
>I don't want to say, "let this be a lesson", to "law enforcement". However,
>I do want to say that there are many in this country who have studied our
>history and know what was intended. They have begun to stand up for those
>rights in Idaho, Texas and now in Alabama. Perhaps there is hope that we
>can regain the liberties and freedoms that are our birthright.
>
>=======================================================================
>Don't believe anything you read on the Net unless:
>1) you can confirm it with another source, and/or
>2) it is consistent with what you already know to be true.

"I think we have more machinery of government than is necessary,
too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious." -
Thomas Jefferson Letter to William Ludlow, 1824

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