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Subject: Part 28, The Casolaro Murder --> The Feds' Theft of Inslaw Software
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I made the following transcript from a tape recording
of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
WBAI-FM (99.5)
505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
New York, NY 10018 (212) 279-0707
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(continuation)
SAMORI MARKSMAN:
We go to our next guest, Harry Martin, who is the publisher of
the Napa Sentinel [Napa, California] and who has been doing an
extraordinary amount of investigatory work around the Inslaw affair.
We will begin by welcoming Harry Martin back to WBAI. Good morning.
Just to let you know that I'm in the studio with Paul DeRienzo.
....
[deleted some previously discussed information]
HARRY MARTIN:
The person who is awaiting criminal prosecution is Michael
Riconosciuto, of course. But mind you, he was not arrested at the
time he made the deposition. He gave a deposition to Congress, and
he indicated to the committee that if he went ahead and testified --
as he did -- therefore, he would be subject to arrest within a
short period of time. Within seven days he was arrested!
But Ari Ben-Menashe is certainly not under any criminal arrest. He is
a member of the Israeli Mossad [intelligence agency]. And the other
people who have come forward and testified to these various things
are not in jail. Michael Riconosciuto is a man who has signed an
affidavit, and yes, he is in jail awaiting criminal charges of
supposedly owning a methamphetamine lab in Pearce County, Washington.
However, after he was arrested -- while I was on a Seattle radio
show, I was on hold and the news came on -- there were three
methamphetamine labs broken up in Pearce County, Washington, not
associated with him whatsoever. And it would lead to the suspicion
that perhaps they were all connected to one thing and had nothing
to do with Michael, but they decided to hang one on him right after
his testimony.
PAUL DeRIENZO:
Why don't you give us some background on who Ari Ben-Menashe is,
because his name has come up on a number of different issues.
HARRY MARTIN:
His name has turned up on the October Surprise and everything else.
He is a member of the Mossad and he apparently indicates that he
is a witness to the exchange of the PROMIS software to the Iraqis
in Santiago, Chile. Now there was also a British Air Force officer
who was a witness to that thing, supposedly, and he was hung. And
they declared that to be suicide. That was in Chile. Ben-Menashe
has come forward on a lot of things, but you have to understand
that the Israelis, at the present time, are also very irritated
with the Bush Administration. And you cannot be sure how much
information and disinformation is being passed around.
PAUL DeRIENZO:
How about Mr. Riconosciuto? We discussed the legal problems he
got himself in after he spoke out. But what is his history?
HARRY MARTIN:
He's a very brilliant computer scientist. He has worked inside
the CIA for a long time. And nobody can deny this fact.
Nobody is challenging that particular role. He was the man who
had the access keys to almost any computer situation: monies,
who's who and everything else. He's very dangerous in the aspect
that he has all that knowledge of the key players in many, many
things. And, of course, his affidavit stated that he converted
the PROMIS software using the Cabazon Indian reservation, in
Indio, California, to do this. And Dr. Earl Brian was very much
involved there. That place was also used for the manufacture of
biological warfare and chemical warfare to be used by the Contras
in Nicaragua. Testimony has come forward from many people that
that whole Indian tribe and those people running it are shown by
the California Department of Justice to have Mafia and CIA ties.
This is a documented situation. But jurisdiction becomes a problem
because it is an independent Indian nation.
....
PAUL DeRIENZO:
We have reports that have come out in COMPUTERWORLD and other
sources based on these statements made by Mr. Ben-Menashe and Mr.
Riconosciuto that Robert McFarlane, who was the former National
Security Advisor, was involved in giving the Israeli Government
copies of this software. Bill Hamilton says that he found out,
quite by accident, that Canada was using it widely; that the Royal
Canadian Mounted Police were using it in their intelligence facilities.
....
Now, what was the role of the Indian reservation?
HARRY MARTIN:
Well, there are several Indian reservations that are being used
by the Wackenhut Corporation and intelligence agencies to do
things like manufacture equipment or ..... They can skip a lot of
corners because these nations are technically independent. For
instance, one reservation is in New Mexico, but it also goes
across the Mexican border. Therefore, it becomes an open corridor
where you don't use customs or anything because part of your
properties are in one country and part is in another. And they
have used these Indian tribes for everything from the manufacture
of weapons to the software situation ... opening up gambling casinos.
And understand -- a lot of the money involved in the savings and
loan scandal came from the Bureau of Indian Affairs. The Bureau
of Indian Affairs puts out money to be invested on short-term
notices, and this is how a lot of the savings & loans that went
down started up. And that's where a lot of their money came from.
There could be a lot of inter-ties in there. It is so complex,
and of course, Danny Casolaro referred to it as "the Octopus".
You can understand why now, because it gets into .... You see,
the trouble is, you can't isolate Inslaw by itself. Inslaw by
itself is just a minor thing compared with the overall package.
The total corruption that seems to have played around .....
Iran/Contra gets involved, and the October Surprise gets involved.
There are just so many players that keep coming across each other,
and it's a really massive story. I don't know anybody who is going
to get the whole picture.
(to be continued)
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This is one of countless stories unveiling the deeply corrupted
and subverted state of our theoretically democratic Government.
This story makes it disgustingly obvious that patriotism is not
the waving of flags, the tying of yellow ribbons and the mindless
supporting of our Government, just because it happens to be ours.
You don't support cancer just because you happen to have it.
Patriotism is telling the truth to the people of our country
in order that they may unite to conquer the anti-democratic cancer
that is gradually destroying ours and our children's freedom.
So please post the installments of this ongoing series to
computer bulletin boards, and post hardcopies in public places,
both on and off campus. That would be a truly patriotic deed.
John DiNardo
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