PRIVACY Forum Digest     Friday, 31 December 1993     Volume 02 : Issue 38

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CONTENTS
       Mail with SSN visible (Wm. Randolph Franklin)
       Re: "On the Road to Nosiness?" (Judy Sammel)
       Public Hearings on Privacy (Dave Banisar)


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VOLUME 02, ISSUE 38

  Quote for the day:

       "I'm strong to the finich,
        'Cause I eat my spinich.
        I'm Popeye the Sailor Man! (Boop! Boop!)"

            -- Animated and comic strip character "Popeye"; created in the
               1930's by Max Fleischer for his original animated cartoons.
               Two hundred more cartoons (much lower quality) featuring
               Popeye were made between 1961 and 1963, and were aired in
               various syndicated and network venues.

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Date:    Mon, 13 Dec 1993 18:39:52 -0500
From:    Wm Randolph Franklin <[email protected]>
Subject: Mail with SSN visible

Concerning:

  > Date:    Fri, 10 Dec 93 18:33:15 GMT
  > From:    Brinton Cooper <[email protected]>
  > Subject: SSN's in Mail Addresses

  > Further, as the Postal Service is bound, under the Privacy Act, to
  > not disclose any information relating to the individual, ...

... except when they sell your change-of-address info to mass
marketers, or they ignore a forwarding order and deliver your mail to
the next occupant at the address, or they deliver your mail to your
neighbor, or ...

New York State also prints your SSN on address labels used to mail state
tax booklets and forms.  So does the IRS, if I remember rightly, at
least for the 1040.

When the Daily Racing Form printed notices of official actions
concerning jockeys, they would print the jockeys' SSNs as well as their
names.  At least they did 20 years ago; dunno about today.

On the other hand, T Rowe Price just announced that they've stopped
printing your SSN on account statements.

--
Wm. Randolph Franklin,  [email protected], (518) 276-6077;  Fax: -6261
ECSE Dept., 6026 JEC, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy NY, 12180 USA

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Date:    Thu, 16 Dec 93 22:23 EST
From:    [email protected]
Subject: Re: "On the Road to Nosiness?"

Concerning the use of photos and sensors to catch traffic violations,
John M.  Joy ([email protected]) writes:

: Dollars to donuts the person to whom the vehicle is registered gets the
: bill (and the point assessment), not (necessarily) the driver.  Are these
: photos really clear enough to identify the face of a driver beyond a
: reasonable doubt (particularly when members of the same family tend to
: drive the same vehicles, and members of the same family tend to resemble
: one another)?

    I was living in Germany a couple of years ago, where these setups
are widely used.  I got nabbed for running a red light (it was still
yellow, officer, honest...)  by one of them.  The setup consists of two
cameras, one which takes a picture just as you cross into the
intersection, and another which takes one about a second later, to see
whether you went completely through.  (This is to avoid ticketing people
who actually stop at the intersection, but a little beyond the line.)  I
saw the flash from the first photo, but was going too fast to stop.
When I got the photos in the mail (along with a DM 120 ticket and
several points on my license) not only could you *clearly* recognize my
face, but you could also tell by the facial expression in the photo that
I was using my favorite obscenity at the time the second picture was
taken, since by then I knew I'd been caught.

    Sent along with this was a form you could fill out if you wanted to
fight the ticket, and it was my understanding that if you could show
that you were not the one driving, you *might* have a chance of winning.

 Judy Sammel
 [email protected]

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Date:    Fri, 17 Dec 1993 13:00:10 EST
From:    Dave Banisar <[email protected]>
Subject: Public Hearings on Privacy

                             NEWS
                  US OFFICE OF CONSUMER AFFAIRS

 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE              Contact: George  Idelson  (USOCA)
 December 10, 1993                           (202)634-4344
                                             Patricia  Faley  (USOCA)
                                             (202)634-4329

 PUBLIC HEARINGS ON INFORMATION AGE PRIVACY SET FOR CALIFORNIA AND
 WASHINGTON, DC.

 Sacramento: January 10-11,  1994;  Washington,  DC:  January  26-27,
 1994.  Public Invited to Participate.

      Representatives from the public,  private  and  non  profit
 sectors will present their views on personal privacy and data
 protection in the information age at public  hearings  of  a  U.S.
 Government task force in early 1994.

      The hearings will be open meetings  of  the  Privacy  Working
 Group, chaired by Patricia Faley,  Acting  Director  of  the  United
 States Office of Consumer Affairs (USOCA).  The Working Group is
 part of a task force set up by  the  Clinton  Administration  to
 consider how to spur development of an "information
 superhighway." officially known  as  the  National  Information
 Infrastructure (NII), the "data highway" will be capable of
 exchanging data, voice and images  electronically  within  a  vast
 network of individuals, businesses, government agencies and other
 organizations around the world.  Ensuring ready access to
 information is the goal of the Administrative initiative, but
 protecting individual privacy is essential to its success.

      The public meetings will examine privacy issues relating to
 such areas as law  enforcement,  financial  services,  information
 technology, and direct marketing.  The California meeting,
 January 10th and llth, will be hosted  by  Jim  Conran,  Director,
 California Department of Consumer Affairs  in  the  First  Floor
 Hearing Room at 400 R  Street  in  Sacramento.  The  Washington,  DC
 meeting, January 26th and 27th, will be held at the U.S.
 Department of Commerce Auditorium,  14th  &  Constitution  Ave.  NW.
 Registration begins at 8:30am, meetings at 9am.

      The public is invited to attend,  question  speakers  and  to
 make brief comments, but space is limited.  Concise written
 statements for the record should be sent to "Privacy," USOCA,
 1620 L Street NW, Washington DC 20036 or faxed to (202)634-4135.

                                 # # #

United States Office of Comumer Affairs - 1620 L Street, NW,  Washington,
D.C. 20036-5605

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