IPNG Directorate Teleconference
                           July 18, 1994

        Reported by:  Steve Coya

This report contains IPNG Directorate meeting notes, positions and
action items.

These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

ATTENDEES
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Scott Bradner / Harvard
Allison Mankin / NRL

J Allard / Microsoft
Steve Bellovin / AT&T
Ross Callon / Wellfleet
Brian Carpenter / CERN
Dave Clark / MIT
John Curran / NEARnet
Steve Deering / Xerox PARC
Dino Farinacci / Cisco
Eric Fleischman / Boeing
Mark Knopper / Ameritech
Greg Minshall / Novell
Paul Mockapetris / ISI
Lixia Zhang / Xerox PARC

Regrets
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Jim Bound / DEC
Paul Francis / NTT
Rob Ullmann / Lotus


1. The first topic was to decide if there should there be a BOF on
  addresses at the Toronto IETF meeting. Dave Clark laid the
  foundation for the discussion, stating that the directorate has a
  strong sense of direction (16 bit fixed address and a SIPP-like
  header), but that there had been no IETF debate on this approach.
  The BOF will provide for an organized and articulated discussion on
  alternate directions which would be passed to the WG working on the
  16 bit fixed, SIPP-like header design), a "Last Call" discussion in
  a sense.

2. The members of the directorate were split wrt having the bof,
  particularly with the perception of others; the "message" that would
  be conveyed to non-directorate members if there was such a bof...
  specifically that the IPNG Decision is a non-decision. Some voiced
  their concern that the bof would turn into a religious debate (fixed
  vs. variable).

  A variation proposed was to hold a bof to identify specific examples
  which demonstrate a fatal flaw with the 16byte-fixed approach.

  Quote du jours: "Dave's cool"

       (Mark Knopper's repsonse when informed that Dave would be
       chairing the proposed bof).

3. A complaint was voiced that writeups from the Chicago retreat had
  not been made available, and that this would be a gap in the
  documentation trail.

4. Paul Mockapeteris suggested that the recommendation of Scott and
  Allison be issued as an RFC - followed by an extended last call for
  IETF. Comments would be published as an RFC.

  Also suggested was that the BOF be used to identify and discuss
  those features or functions that can not/could not be accommodated
  with a fixed 16 byte IP address.

5. A (non-binding :-) straw poll was taken to ascertain the
  directorate's general sense on 16 byte fixed lengh. The question
  was: did the directorate support the designation of SIPP-16 as IPng?
  Of those still on the call, a significant majority stated that it
  was acceptable.

       Steve Bellovin          Yes
       Ross Callon             Yes
       Brian Carpenter         Yes
       Dave Clark              Yes
       John Curran             Yes
       Steve Deering           Yes
       Dino Farinacci          Yes
       Eric Fleischman         Yes
       Mark Knopper            No  (fixed ok)
       Lixia Zhang             Yes