This report contains IPNG Directorate meeting notes, positions and
action items.
These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
ATTENDEES
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Scott Bradner / Harvard
Allison Mankin / NRL
J Allard / Microsoft
Steve Bellovin / AT&T
Ross Callon / Wellfleet
Brian Carpenter / CERN
Dave Clark / MIT
John Curran / NEARnet
Steve Deering / Xerox PARC
Dino Farinacci / Cisco
Eric Fleischman / Boeing
Mark Knopper / Ameritech
Greg Minshall / Novell
Paul Mockapetris / ISI
Lixia Zhang / Xerox PARC
Regrets
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Jim Bound / DEC
Paul Francis / NTT
Rob Ullmann / Lotus
1. The first topic was to decide if there should there be a BOF on
addresses at the Toronto IETF meeting. Dave Clark laid the
foundation for the discussion, stating that the directorate has a
strong sense of direction (16 bit fixed address and a SIPP-like
header), but that there had been no IETF debate on this approach.
The BOF will provide for an organized and articulated discussion on
alternate directions which would be passed to the WG working on the
16 bit fixed, SIPP-like header design), a "Last Call" discussion in
a sense.
2. The members of the directorate were split wrt having the bof,
particularly with the perception of others; the "message" that would
be conveyed to non-directorate members if there was such a bof...
specifically that the IPNG Decision is a non-decision. Some voiced
their concern that the bof would turn into a religious debate (fixed
vs. variable).
A variation proposed was to hold a bof to identify specific examples
which demonstrate a fatal flaw with the 16byte-fixed approach.
Quote du jours: "Dave's cool"
(Mark Knopper's repsonse when informed that Dave would be
chairing the proposed bof).
3. A complaint was voiced that writeups from the Chicago retreat had
not been made available, and that this would be a gap in the
documentation trail.
4. Paul Mockapeteris suggested that the recommendation of Scott and
Allison be issued as an RFC - followed by an extended last call for
IETF. Comments would be published as an RFC.
Also suggested was that the BOF be used to identify and discuss
those features or functions that can not/could not be accommodated
with a fixed 16 byte IP address.
5. A (non-binding :-) straw poll was taken to ascertain the
directorate's general sense on 16 byte fixed lengh. The question
was: did the directorate support the designation of SIPP-16 as IPng?
Of those still on the call, a significant majority stated that it
was acceptable.
Steve Bellovin Yes
Ross Callon Yes
Brian Carpenter Yes
Dave Clark Yes
John Curran Yes
Steve Deering Yes
Dino Farinacci Yes
Eric Fleischman Yes
Mark Knopper No (fixed ok)
Lixia Zhang Yes