INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
                      October 21 , 1993

        Reported by:  Steve Coya, Acting IESG Secretary

This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

For more information please contact the IESG Secretary at
[email protected].

ATTENDEES
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   Bradner, Scott / Harvard
   Chapin, Lyman / BBN
   Coya, Steve / CNRI
   Crocker, Dave / SGI
   Crocker, Steve / TIS
   Gross, Philip / ANS
   Hinden, Robert / SUN
   Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
   Klensin, John / UNU
   Mankin, Allison / NRL
   Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
   Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
   Stewart, John / CNRI

IAB Liaisons
   Christian Huitema / INRIA
   Yakov Rekhter / IBM

Regrets
   Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
   Rose, Marshall / DBC


1. The minutes from the September 23 and October 7 IESG Teleconferences
  were approved.

2. Scott and Allison have sent suggestions for changes to the "ISO
  CLNP in Tuba Envonments" document to Dave Piscitello. The document
  will be revised resubmitted Internet-Draft. Coya is to wait for
  explicit approval from Scott and Allison before sending the IESG
  announcement approving this as an Experimental Protocol.

3. The IESG approved the publication of "PPP in HDLC Framing"
  <draft-ietf-pppext-hdlc-framing-02.txt> and "The Point-to-Point
  Protocol (PPP)" <draft-ietf-pppext-lcp-main-02.txt> as DRAFT
  standards.

  The IESG also approved the publication of "Requirements for an
  Internet Standard Point-to-Point Protocol"
  <draft-ietf-pppext-requirements-01.txt> as an Informational RFC.

4. The IESG approved the publication of "Multicast Extensions to OSPF"
  <draft-ietf-mospf-multicast-04.txt, .ps> as a Proposed Standard

  The IESG also approved the publication of "MOSPF: Analysis and
  Experience" <draft-ietf-mospf-analysis-02.txt> as an Informational
  RFC.

5. The IESG approved the publication of "OSPF Version 2"
  <draft-ietf-ospf-version2-04.txt, .ps> as a DRAFT Standard. This is
  a recycle in grade action.

6. Following some discussion, including the decision to remove a
  paragraph from the draft charter, the IESG approved the formation of
  the Routing over Large clouds Working Group. Hinden to notify the WG
  Chair of the change made to the text of the charter.

7. The IESG deferred approving the publication of "A Revised Catalog of
  Available X.500 Implementations" draft-ietf-ids-catalog-00.txt> as an
  Informational RFC pending a review by Erik Huizer.

8. The IESG has decided NOT TO meet from 4-6 PM on Monday during the
  IETF meeting in Houston. Bob Hinden offered to make arrangements for
  the IESG to meet in a restaurant following the IESG Open Plenary
  meeting on Thursday. Additionally, Steve Coya is to investigate the
  possibilities of organizing an IESG lunch meeting on Wednesday.

  There was some discussion on whether to schedule dinner meetings on
  Sunday night at future IETF meetings, and the possibility of having
  a standard meeting place each morning during the IETF meeting week.
  The breakfast idea, while generally acceptable,  will not be done
  for the Houston meeting. Coya to make arrangements for this can be
  done in Seattle, and to identify any problems (logistic or
  financial) that need to be addressed.

9. Dave Piscitello provided a status update on the "Classical ARP over
  ATM" document. The text which was deemed inappropriate for inclusion
  in an Internet RFC has been removed, and additional changes have
  been made to the document and it is now ready for IESG review and
  discussion. It was suggested that the IAB review the document from
  an architectural perspective, and Yakov offered to take this to the
  IAB. It was noted that the last call period does not expire until
  the middle of the IETF meeting in Houston.

10. The IPng Area will be requesting a series of white papers from a
   number of individuals, and asked for IESG opinions on how the
   publication should be handled. It was agreed that these should
   follow the same route of initial announcement as Internet-Drafts,
   eventually published as Informational RFCs.

   It was noted that while the IPng is essentially soliciting
   opinions, the opinions expressed by the authors of the individual
   white papers does not automatically represent the opinions of the
   area... nor do they exclude that possibility. It was suggested that
   a standard text section noting that these are opinions be included
   in each and every document.

11. Lyman reported on some of the results of the ISO/IEC JTC1/SC6
   meeting held last month in Seoul. A liaison contribution from
   SC6 to ISOC proposes that SC6 and ISOC jointly negotiate a
   "memorandum of understanding" as the basis of a category A
   liaison relationship between SC6 and ISOC; describes the bene-
   fits that SC6 sees in the establishment of such a liaison rela-
   tionship; recognizes the current reality that the best place in
   which to pursue technical work on the development of standards
   for internetworking is the IETF; and reaffirms the resolution
   of its working groups from last February to make the relevant
   Network and Transport layer SC6 documents available to ISOC and
   to the Internet community at large (preferably in electronic
   form). The "electronic form" aspect has been held up since
   February by the ISO Central Secretariat, but Lyman expects an
   agreement to be reached soon that will permit the documents on
   SC6's list to be posted as RFCs.

   Lyman will send a note to the IAB and IESG with the list of SC6
   documents that are covered by the SC6 liaison from Seoul. The
   liaison contribution itself will be posted shortly as an internet
   draft.

12. Coya to send a message to the RFC Editor asking for an extension
   on the Remote Query Protocol RFC submission which is to be reviewed
   by Dave Crocker.

13. Phill reported that he is working on the IETF charter. At this
   time, it is approximately 10 pages of text with outlines for the
   rest of the document. Phill reviewed some of the major sections of
   the charter, and his plans to get some individual reviews done
   prior to holding a single topic teleconference with interested IESG
   members to review the charter.