IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
June 10, 1993
Recorded by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
Reported by: John Stewart
This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
[email protected].
ATTENDEES
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Bradner, Scott / Harvard
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Crocker, Dave / SGI
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Kahle, Brewster / WAIS
Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
Mankin, Allison / Locus
Rose, Marshall / DBC
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
IAB Liaison
Christian Huitema / INRIA
Yakov Rekhter / IBM
Regrets
Chapin, Lyman / BBN
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
Agenda
1. Administrivia
o Roll Call
o Bash the Agenda
o Approval of the Minutes
- May 13th
- May 27th
o Announcements
o Next meeting
2. Protocol Actions
o Distributed Authentication Security Service
o Op Reqs for X.400 Management Domains
o Assertion of C=US; A=IMX
o IP Multicast over Token Ring
o Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay
o OIM MIB
o Bridge MIB
3. Management Issues
o Brewster Kahle's status as Applications Area Co-director
o RARE Technical Reports
o Dynamic Host Configuration
o Router Requirement
o CIDR A/S
o Working Group Management
4. RFC Editor Actions
o Speedloader
5. Working Group Actions
o Internet Protocol Security Protocol (ipsec)
o Authorization and Access Control (aac)
o Interactive Mail Access Protocol (imap)
o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic)
o Inter-Domain Multicast Routing Working Group (IDMR)
Minutes
1. Administrivia
o Approval of the Minutes
- May 13th
deferred
- May 27th
deferred
o Announcements
This is Greg Vaudreuil's last IESG teleconference. John Stewart
will serve as the IESG Secretary after Greg leaves.
o Next meeting
24 June 11:30 a.m. - 1:30 p.m. EDT
2. Protocol Actions
o Distributed Authentication Security Service
The IESG approved the Internet-Draft <draft-ietf-cat-dass-02.txt>
"Distributed Authentication Security Service" for publication as
an Experimental RFC.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce to IETF-Announce the IESG's decision to
allow the "Distributed Authentication Security Service" Internet-Draft
to be published as an Experimental RFC.
o Op Reqs for X.400 Management Domains
This document has not yet been reviewed by the Area Director.
o Assertion of C=US; A=IMX
The Area Director has some problems with how the document is
being put forth. Erik will talk to the authors and then report
back to the IESG.
ACTION: Huizer -- Contact the authors of the "Assertion of C=US; A=IMX"
Internet-Draft and report back to the IESG to summarize the issues.
o IP Multicast over Token Ring
The IESG approved the Internet-Draft
<draft-pusateri-tokenring-lan-02.txt> "IP Multicast over Token
Ring" as a Proposed Standard.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "IP Multicast over Token Ring" as a
Proposed Standard to IETF-Announce.
o Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame Relay
The IESG approved the Internet-Draft
<draft-ietf-iplpdn-framerelay-04.txt> "Multiprotocol
Interconnect over Frame Relay" as a Draft Standard.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "Multiprotocol Interconnect over Frame
Relay" as a Draft Standard to IETF-Announce.
o OIM MIB
The IESG approved moving "OIM MIB" to Historic status.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "OIM MIB" as Historic to IETF-Announce.
o Bridge MIB
The IESG approved the Internet-Draft
<draft-ietf-bridge-definitions-02.txt> "Definitions of Managed
Objects for Bridges" as a Draft Standard.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce "Definitions of Managed Objects for
Bridges" as a Draft Standard to IETF-Announce.
3. Management Issues
o Brewster Kahle's status as Applications Area Co-director
Due to time constraints, Brewster will be stepping down. Erik
Huizer needs help very soon, especially in light of the upcoming
IETF. There was a proposal to appoint John Klensin as an
interim Area Co-director. John is one of the most active
members of the Applications Area directorate, and, according to
Erik and Brewster, is currently the best candidate to fill the
position.
Christian Huitema believes that the IAB needs to approve any
interim Area [Co]-director. No agreement was reached. An off-
line teleconference will be scheduled to try and resolve the
issue of IAB approval. The point of conflict is whether the
IESG should be entitled to make temporary appointments, without
approval of the IAB or its nominating committee, in what the
IESG deems as emergency situations.
ACTION: Gross -- Set up a teleconference with Gross, Huitema, SCrocker,
Chapin, and anyone else in the IESG who wants to join, to discuss
whether IAB approval is needed for IESG appointees for interim Area
[Co]-directors.
ACTION: Huietema -- Communicate to the IAB the IESG's desire to have
an interim Applications Area Co-director soon.
o Working Group Requirements Document
The Working Group Requirements document will be posted as an
Internet-Draft on Friday.
o RARE Technical Reports
The IESG agreed to allow the use of Internet-Drafts and RFCs for
RARE documents. Jon Postel, RFC Editor, has indicated that this
is acceptable as long as he retains RFC Editor control.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify Jon Postel of the IESG decision to allow
Internet-Drafts and RFCs to be used for RARE documents.
o Dynamic Host Configuration
Dave Piscitello was not present. No action to report.
o Router Requirement
No action to report.
o CIDR Applicability Statement
There was discussion on whether the A/S should enumerate
specific protocols or not. Bob Hinden said he would prefer that
the document contain a list, but that he would go along with
what the rest of the IESG decided. The decision made was not to
list specific routing protocols, but rather have a separate AS
for CIDR, and a separate AS for a common EGP. There are some
remaining details that will be worked out in a teleconference.
ACTION: Hinden and Rekhter -- Have conference call to get the
specifics of what parts of CIDR should be included in the AS,
and what, if anything, should be in any companion document(s).
ACTION: Hinden -- Post a reviced CIDR draft by Friday 18 June.
o Registering MIME extensions
There has been significant confusion about the procedure for
registering MIME content types, charsets, and content transfer-
encodings. The Gopher people expressed concern about the
apparent difficulty of doing this.
ACTION: Huizer -- Send mail to IESG with possible resolution to
problem of registering MIME extensions.
4. RFC Editor Actions
o Speedloader
The IESG determined that this document on machine-readable
bibliographies is similar to other work going on in the IETF.
A two week extension will be requested from the RFC Editor so
that the IESG can discuss with the author the plan of convening
a BOF at the next IETF meeting to review these several similar
proposals.
ACTION: Huizer -- Work with the authors to for a BOF to discuss
these machine-readable bibliography-related proposals.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Ask the RFC Editor for an extension while the
IESG talks to the authors.
5. Working Group Actions
o Internet Protocol Security Protocol (ipsec)
o Authorization and Access Control (aac)
These working group charters have been held up awaiting a
security architecture statement. This statement has been
delayed, and these otherwise reasonable working groups are
now in a scheduling bind. The IESG agreed to approve the
working groups in two weeks if the architecture statement is
approved, or as soon as it is submitted to the IESG.
Meanwhile, these groups will be given permission to schedule
a session at the Amsterdam IETF.
ACTION: SCrocker -- Send the security architecture statement to
the IESG so that approval of the ipsec and aac working groups
can happen on the list.
ACTION: SCrocker -- Authorize the ipsec and aac groups to meet in
Amsterdam.
o Interactive Mail Access Protocol (imap)
The IESG approved this working group.
o Multiparty Multimedia Session Control (mmusic)
Erik is waiting for a response from proposed chairs on the
changes suggested by the IAB.
o Inter-Domain Multicast Routing Working Group (IDMR)
Because the charter was just submitted, this decision will
be deferred for two weeks. The group is authorized to
meet in Amsterdam.
ACTION: Hinden -- Communicate to the prospective IDMR working
group chairs the IESG decision to allow them to meet in Amsterdam.
6. Tasked Items
o IETF Charter
No action to report.
