IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
March 18th, 1993
Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
[email protected].
ATTENDEES
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Almquist, Philip / Consultant
Crocker, Dave / SGI
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
IAB Liaison
Chapin, Lyman / BBN
Christian Huitema / INRIA
Regrets
Borman, David / Cray Research
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
AGENDA
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1. Administrivia
o Roll Call
o Bash the Agenda
o Approval of minutes
- Feb 22nd
- Mar 1st
- Mar 8th
2. Protocol Actions
o RFC 1327 tutorial
o NOC Tools revisited
3. DRAFT Protocols Expired in Grade
o The Finger User Information Protocol <RFC1288>
o Telnet Linemode Option <RFC1184>
o NICNAME/WHOIS <RFC954>
o Bootstrap Protocol <RFC951>
4. PROPOSED Protocols Expired in Grade
o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks <RFC1201>
o Use of OSI IS-IS for Routing in TCP/IP and Dual Environments <RFC1195>
o Network News Transfer Protocol <RFC977>
5. Working Group Actions
o Authentication and Access Control
o Mail and Directory Management
o Source Demand Routing
6. Tasked Items
o RPC & NFS
o IP Security Working Group Charter
o IP Address Guidelines A/S
o WAR with RIP
o RIP A/S
o Revised IPLPDN Working Group Charter
7. Management Issues
o US vs International Domains
o Status of SAAG
o Co-Area Director for Security
o The RFC1154 issue
o Compressing TCP/IP Headers
o New Working Group Chairman Orientation
MINUTES
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1) Administrivia
o Approval of the Minutes
The IESG approved the minutes of the February 22nd, the March 1st,
and the March 8th Teleconferences.
o Next Meeting
The IESG next plans to meet informally over dinner at the IETF
Plenary.
2) Protocol Actions
o RFC 1327 Tutorial
This document was submitted to the IESG for consideration as an
Informational document a bit pre-maturely. The Area Director has
reviewed the document and has suggested several changes including a
revision to the title. This item will be listed as "WG-DISCUSS"
until a new document is submitted.
o NOC Tools
The NOC Tools Catalogue was approved by the IESG earlier as an
Informational document. After the approval, and before publication,
several additions were gathered. The IESG was asked whether the
changes should be made to the document or whether original document
should be published.
The NOC Tools Catalogue is one of several living documents that is
updated regularly. Rather than revise the document after the IESG
has approved it, the IESG recommends publication of an update
document listing the new entries.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify the RFC Editor that the IESG recommends he
publish the NOC Tools document as initially submitted and make any
additions in a separate addendum document.
3) Draft Standard Protocols Expired in Grade
The IESG briefly reviewed the status of the Draft Standard Protocols
which have been Proposed Standards for more than 2 years to determine
of IESG action is needed or whether any extensions granted earlier are
still valid.
o Finger User Information Protocol
This protocol was revised since being elevated to Draft Standard.
The revisions were made to make the documentation align more closely
to the implemented protocol. The IESG should consider its status.
ACTION: Hobby -- Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
Finger to full Standard.
o Telnet Linemode Option
This Telnet Option has been widely implemented and operationally
deployed. Its status will be reviewed by the IESG.
ACTION: Hobby - Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
the Telnet Linemode Option to Full Standard.
o NICNAME/WHOIS
The IESG earlier reviewed this protocol and found the documentation
to be lacking. The current document is little more than the
description of a specific service offered by the DDN NIC at one
time. The Whois and Network Information Lookup Service Working
Group is tasked to produce a new protocol document. No actions
needed at this time.
o Bootstrap Protocol
Some additions to the BOOTP Protocol is being contemplated as part
of the Dynamic Host Configuration effort. The IESG will consider
the status of this protocol when the Dynamic Host configuration work
is submitted to the IESG. No further action is needed at this
time.
4) Proposed Standard Protocols Expired in Grade
These protocols have been Proposed Standards for more than two years.
o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks
The IESG knew little of the status of this protocol, and committed
to reviewing its status.
ACTION: Knowles or Piscitello -- Review the IP over ARCnet protocol and
determine if it meets the requirements for Draft Standard status.
o Use of OSI IS-IS for Routing in TCP/IP and Dual Environments
A revision of RFC 1195 has been posted and work is continuing to
implement and deploy the protocol. The chairman of this working
group is unable to continue his service and a new chairman is being
sought. This protocols should be reviewed by the IESG
ACTION: Hinden -- Investigate the status of the Dual IS-IS protocol.
Report on whether an extension should be granted.
o Network News Transfer Protocol
The NNTP Protocol is being revised in the NNTP Working Group. It is
not clear whether the new protocol should be considered an update or
whether it is a new protocol. If the later, the original NNTP
should be reviewed for advancement independently of the current
revisions.
ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the NNTP Protocol as defined in RFC 977
and report on whether the protocol should be evaluated independently of
the current protocol developments in the working group.
5) Working Group Action
o Authorization and Access Control (aac)
The IESG continues to have questions about the relationship of IP
Security, Common Authentication Technology, and this proposed
group. A brief document relating these efforts was requested of the
Security Area Director.
ACTION: SCrocker produce a short document describing the relationship
between the IP Security, AAC, and CAT Working Groups and how they
relate to the Internet security problem space.
o Mail and Directory Management (madman)
The charter is under active discussion. A new version is expected
from Steve Kille. Participation in the charter drafting was
explicitly requested of Dave Crocker.
o Source Demand Routing.
The Source Demand Routing Charter was recast to produce a prototype
protocol initially. After the significant issues surrounding
dynamic construction of source routes is resolved, the work will
more to proposed standard. The IESG approved this Working Group.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Source Demand
Routing Working Group.
6) Tasked Items
Only the tasked items with some information to report are listed
below.
o IP Addressing
The first draft of the IP Addressing Applicability Statement was
written by Yakov Rekhter and Tony Li for the IESG.
ACTION: Gross, Hinden -- Review the draft Applicability Statement and
after making any necessary changes post it as an Internet Draft.
o RPC-NFS
There continues to be no progress to report. The IESG agreed that
the NFS and RPC documents will move to historic state regardless of
whether SUN agrees to participate in an open process to define
accurate new specifications. The question is on of timing and the
IESG agreed to wait another two weeks before taking this action.
7) Management Issues
o US and Regional ADMD Guidelines
The X.400 Operations Working Group is contemplating a proposed
standard for the assignment of ADMDs in the US. This assignment
strategy is applicable to other nations. The IESG recommends that
this document be an developed as an Informational policy
implementation guideline and not a standard.
ACTION: Huizer -- Advise the X.400 Operations Working Group that the
IESG feels the X.400 ADMD assignment document should be an
Informational implementation guidelines rather than standard.
o New Working Group chairman briefing.
The IESG agreed that the new Working Group Chairman orientation was a
good idea. Without a syllabus, it was not clear the IESG should
require attendance for new (or even some old-timers!).
ACTION: DCrocker -- Prepare a syllabus for the New Working Group
chairman briefing and distribute to the IESG as soon before the IETF
meeting as possible.
o Status of the SAAG
Steve Crocker related the history of the SAAG to the IESG and
explained that the original mission of the SAAG, security education
and guidance, does not quite satisfy the needs for an Area
Directorate. The IESG agreed that the SAAG could be refocused on
the protocol review and technical advisory missions that
directorates have grown to meet.
o New Version of IP
There was not much information sent to the Internet Area Director
on the current implementation experience for the proposed sucessors
to the IP v4 protocol.
Appendix - Summary of Action Items Assigned
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify the RFC Editor that the IESG recommends he
publish the NOC Tools document as initially submitted and make any
additions in a separate addendum document.
ACTION: Hobby -- Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
Finger to full Standard.
ACTION: Hobby - Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
the Telnet Linemode Option to Full Standard
ACTION: Knowles or Piscitello -- Review the IP over ARCnet protocol and
determine if it meets the requirements for Draft Standard status.
ACTION: Hinden -- Investigate the status of the Dual IS-IS protocol.
Report on whether an extension should be granted.
ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the NNTP Protocol as defined in RFC 977
and report on whether the protocol should be evaluated independently of
the current protocol developments in the working group.
ACTION: SCrocker produce a short document describing the relationship
between the IP Security, AAC, and CAT Working Groups and how they
relate to the Internet security problem space.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Source Demand
Routing Working Group.
ACTION: Gross, Hinden -- Review the draft Applicability Statement and
after making any necessary changes post it as an Internet Draft.
ACTION: Huizer -- Advise the X.400 Operations Working Group that the
IESG feels the X.400 ADMD assignment document should be an
Informational implementation guidelines rather than standard.
ACTION: DCrocker -- Prepare a syllabus for the New Working Group
chairman briefing and distribute to the IESG as soon before the IETF
meeting as possible.
