IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
February 22nd, 1993
Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
[email protected].
ATTENDEES
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Almquist, Philip / Consultant
Chapin, Lyman / BBN
Crocker, Dave / TBO
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
Regrets
Borman, David / Cray Research
Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
AGENDA
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1) Administrivia
o Role Call
o Bash the Agenda
o Approval of the Minutes
- February 1st
- February 8th
2) Protocol Actions
o Directed ARP
o NFS
o RPC
o IP Address Guidelines
o X.500 DUA Metrics
o Noop Tools RFC
3) Technical management issues
o Nomination Committee Clarification
o Network Management Area
o SNMP
o RIP Applicability Statement
o Wide Area Routing with RIP
o Delegation of Naming Authority for the US Domain
4) RFC Editor Actions
o SNMP Over Foo Documents
5) Working Group Actions
o IP Security (ipsec)
o Integrated Directory Services (ids)
o Training Materials (trainmat)
o Remote Conferencing (remconf)
o Secure FTP
MINUTES
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1) Administrivia
o Approval of the Minutes
The minutes from the Teleconferences of February 1st and February
8th were approved.
o Next Meeting
The next IESG teleconference was scheduled for March 1st, from 11:30
to 1:30 ET.
2) Protocol Actions
o Directed ARP
After consulting with the IPLPDN Working Group, it is clear this
protocol is a product of that group. The proposal suffers from
several technical flaws and the IESG was concerned that there is no
specific interest in actually implementing and experimenting with
this protocol. Acknowledging these shortcomings, the IESG approved
this protocol for publication as Experimental. This protocol will
clearly need additional work should it be proposed for
standardization.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the approval of the Directed ARP
specification as an Experimental Protocol.
The IESG discussed the general case where a IETF Working Group may
produce a specification for experimentation which has significant
shortcomings.
POSITION: A protocol which is intended to be experimental may be
published as a IETF Working Group product even with known technical
deficiencies.
o NFS/RPC
There is no action to report.
o IP Addressing Guidelines
Progress is being made on preparing the CIDR document set. The IESG
was reminded that it is responsible for an Applicability Statement
(AS) for CIDR.
ACTION: Gross, Hinden: Write the Applicability Statement for CIDR.
o X.500 DUA Metrics
The IESG had no objection to the publication of this document as an
informational product of the OSIDS Working Group.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the acceptance of the X.500 DUA Metrics
document as an Informational document.
o Tools RFC
The IESG discussed this Network OSI Operations Working Group
document. The document is partly a requirements document and partly
a NOC Tools style catalogue of tools necessary to operate a CLNP
internet. It was noted that this work would be a good candidate for
a proposed standard "CLNP requirements" document.
The title needs to be revised before it can be published as an RFC.
ACTION: Vaudreuil - Request clarification from the Working Group
chairman about the nature of this document. Communicate the IESG sense
that this would be a good basis of a requirements document.
3) Technical Management Issues
o Nomination Committee Request
The IESG nomination committee requested clarification on an earlier
IESG discussion as to whether the IESG facilitator and the IETF
chairman should be the same person. The IESG discussed this and
agreed that the IETF chairman should remain the chairman of the
IESG. Secretariat help is available to delegate specific tasks as
the chairman requires.
POSITION: IESG chairman should be the IETF chairman. Secretariat help
is available as needed and as delegated by the IETF chairman.
ACTION: Coya - Further ponder the role of the IESG facilitator WRT to
the IETF Secretariat and report thoughts to the IESG.
o Network Management Area
With the resignation of Chuck Davin, the IESG is without a Network
Management Area Director. Besides the ongoing work on SNMP
Evolution, there are a collection of MIBs that require review and
processing for advancement. The IESG agreed that the IESG should be
able to cover for the Network Management Area Director and should
not wait for a new Area Director.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Investigate the current status of the Network
Management Area Directorate and investigate the process by which the
various MIBS can be reviewed.
o SNMP Version2
The SNMP Version 2 protocol is nearing completion and is expected to
be submitted to the IESG before Columbus. There continues to be a
degree of controversy over the process and to a lesser degree the
content of the protocol.
ACTION: SCrocker, Piscitello - Poll the SNMP community for feedback on
the process of SNMP Evolution. Report to the IESG.
Two documents are of low quality and need to be rewritten, however
the IESG was willing to allow the current documents to progress
provided they are re-written before advancement to Draft Standard.
o RIP Applicability Statement.
No action to report.
o Wide Area Routing with RIP
No action to report
o Delegation of Naming Authority for the US Domain
Discussion on the delegation of authority for the US domain was deferred.
4) RFC Editor Actions
o SNMP over Multi-Protocols
There was no objection from the working group or authors to the
elimination of the text in each referring to SNMP Security.
ACTION: Piscitello - Communicate to the RFC Editor the IESG willingness
to have the SNMP over Foo documents edited before publication to
eliminate the SNMP Security references.
5) Working Group Actions
o IP Security
No Progress to Report
o Integrated Directory Services (ids)
The formation of the Integrated Directory Services Working Group was
approved by the IESG.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Integrated Directory
Services Working Group.
o Network Training Materials (trainmat)
The formation of the Training Materials Working Group was approved
by the IESG.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Network Training
Materials Working Group.
o Remote Conferencing
The Remote Conferencing work is being carried out in several single
focus working groups. As additional requirements arise other
Working Groups will be formed. No further action is required.
o Secure FTP
It is not clear whether this effort should be chartered in the
Applications or Security Area. While the focus is intended to be on
security aspects, other changes to FTP are possible and should be
coordinated in the Applications Area. No resolution was reached in
the short time this was discussed.
Appendix -- Summary of Action Items Assigned
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the approval of the Directed ARP
specification as an Experimental Protocol.
ACTION: Gross, Hinden: Write the Applicability Statement for CIDR.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the acceptance of the X.500 DUA Metrics
document as an Informational document.
ACTION: Vaudreuil - Request clarification from the Working Group
chairman about the nature of this document. Communicate the IESG sense
that this would be a good basis of a requirements document.
ACTION: Coya - Further ponder the role of the IESG facilitator WRT to
the IETF Secretariat and report thoughts to the IESG.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Investigate the current status of the Network
Management Area Directorate and investigate the process by which the
various MIBS can be reviewed.
ACTION: SCrocker, Piscitello - Poll the SNMP community for feedback on
the process of SNMP Evolution. Report to the IESG.
ACTION: Piscitello - Communicate to the RFC Editor the IESG willingness
to have the SNMP over Foo documents edited before publication to
eliminate the SNMP Security references.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Integrated Directory
Services Working Group.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Network Training
Materials Working Group.
Appendix - Summary of Positions Taken
POSITION: A protocol which is intended to be experimental may be
published as a IETF Working Group product even with known technical
deficiencies.
POSITION: IESG chairman should be the IETF chairman. Secretariat help
is available as needed and as delegated by the IETF chairman.
