IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

                 REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING

                      December 14th, 1992

        Reported by:  Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.

These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.

For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.


Attendees
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   Borman, David / Cray Research
   Coya, Steve / CNRI
   Crocker, Dave / TBO
   Gross, Philip / ANS
   Hinden, Robert / SUN
   Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
   Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
   Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
   Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
   Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
   Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
   Chapin, Lyman / BBN

Regrets
   Almquist, Philip / Consultant
   Crocker, Steve / TIS
   Davin, Chuck / Bellcore

   Reynolds, Joyce / ISI

Agenda
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 This teleconference was called to discuss the current IESG plans for
 progressing the various proposals for the next IP.



MINUTES
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 The IESG began with a review of the current state.  The IP criteria
 document edited by Craig Partridge and Frank Kastenholtz, expected to
 be completed by December 15th, is not likely to result in specific
 decision criteria.  The document is expected to be a listing of
 issues to be considered.  The IESG had committed to reviewing the
 various proposals against the criteria by December 15th.

 The IESG affirmed its position that the choice of the next IP will
 be made as nearly as possible follow the standard IETF standardization
 process of document, implement, and test.  To facilitate this work,
 and given the current time constraints, the IESG agreed to review the
 initial specifications for the proposals and release a list of
 comments for each proposal as soon as possible.

 All the proposals lack adequate implementation experience.  The IESG
 has requested and affirmed the requirement that by February 15th,
 multiple interoperable implementations be made available for public
 review. This requirement goes beyond that necessary for Proposed
 Standard and is intended to form the basis for comparison of the
 various proposals.

o "P" Internet Protocol/ Extended IP (PIP/EIP)

 The IESG discussed PIP and observed that the proposal may face
 difficulties in completing the specification, implementation and
 deployment within the timeframe expected from the CIDR short term
 solution.  The IESG also observed that PIP appears to have limited
 constituency and will need to demonstrate wider acceptance in the
 near term to be considered a serious contender.

o TCP/UDP over Bigger Addresses (TUBA)

 The IESG observed that the lack of a well documented deployment and
 transition plan was a shortcoming of the current TUBA work.  It is
 not clear from the current proposals when the various portions of the
 Internet will be required to support TUBA and what services will be
 available to hosts which do not support TUBA.

o Simple IP/ IP Address Encapsulation (SIP/IPAE)

 There is currently no provision for the management of SIP.  MIBs for
 the management of SIP and the IPAE transition are needed.



 The IESG discussed the necessity for unique endpoint identifiers, and
 while there was some difficulty reaching a precise definitions, the
 IESG,  reached agreement that they were essential for the next IP.
 The definition used for the purposes of this agreement was "A
 globally unique identifier as understood in same sense as IPv4 usage
 of a host address"

ACTION: Coya, Gross -- Write up the comments agreed to this meeting and
circulate them to the IESG and the relevant Working Groups.


Appendix - Summary of Action Items


ACTION: Coya, Gross -- Write up the comments agreed to this meeting and
circulate them to the IESG and the relevant Working Groups.