This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
This material is based on work supported by the National Science
Foundation under Grant No.NCR 8820945.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
ATTENDEES
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Almquist, Philip / Consultant
Borman, David / Cray Research
Crocker, Dave / TBO
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
Regrets
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
AGENDA
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1) Administrivia
o Approval of the Minutes
November 9th,
November 10th,
November 20th,
November 30th,
December 2nd
2) Protocol Actions
o Token Ring MIB
o Identity Protocol/ Ident MIB
o FTP/FTAM Gateway
o MTU Discovery
o DS1 MIB /DS3 MIB
o IP Addressing Guidelines
3) Technical Management
o Approval of IESG Re-Organization
o IESG review of ROAD proposals
o SUN NFS/RPC
MINUTES
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1) Administrivia
o Approval of the Minutes
The minutes of the teleconferences on November 9th, November 10th,
November 30th and December 2nd as well as the minutes of the meeting
of November 20th held during the IETF plenary session in Washington
D.C. were approved.
2) Protocol Actions
In email prior to this meeting, the IESG agreed that balloting will
be used in conjunction with the regular IESG meetings to approve
protocol actions. Presence at an IESG meeting without raising an
objection is considered a "yes" vote.
o Token Ring MIB
The Token Ring MIB waiting for the completion of a survey of current
implementations before being moved to Draft Standard.
o Identity Protocol and Ident MIB
The IESG approved the elevation of the Identity Protocol and the
Ident MIB to Proposed Standard. The IESG had previously asked for a
revision to the protocol to reflect the current understanding of
character handling and this change was made and approved by the
Working Group.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a protocol action notice to the RFC Editor
and the IETF elevating the Identity protocol and the Ident MIB to
Proposed Standard.
o FTP/FTAM Gateway Specification
The IESG has issued a last call for the FTP/FTAM gateway
specification and received initial comments on the suitability of
this specification for standardization. The comments primarily
addressed the small constituency for the protocol and the need for
change control and evolution. The IESG noted that there are three
implementations, one of them of an earlier version and that although
small, the need for the gateways will cause them to be implemented.
The specification did not originate from a Working Group but was
reviewed by the OSI General Working Group when it existed and was
reviewed again at the Washington DC plenary meeting in a BOF. The
IESG agreed to continue with the last call for Proposed Standard.
ACTION: Hobby -- Research and prepare a technical summary of the
FTP/FTAM Gateway protocol and a report on the constituency of the
protocol.
o MTU Discovery
RFC 1191, Path MTU Discovery has expired its two years in grade as a
Proposed Standard. The protocol is widely implemented but its
operational usage is limited by the existence of routers that
suppress ICMP messages. (to work around an old 4.2 BSD bug) The
IESG discussed whether this was such a significant problem that the
protocol should be abandoned and agreed that it was not. The 4.2
BSD behavior in the face of unrecognized ICMP messages is
non-conforming and should not be an obstacle to further evolution of
the Internet. (Implemented by Sun, Cray, and FTP Software among
others)
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With text from Stev Knowles outlining the current
operational experience, send a last call for the elevation of MTU
Discovery to Draft Standard.
o DS1 MIB/ DS3 MIB
A bug is the DS1 and DS3 MIB specifications has been found which
will be corrected in the next version of the MIBs. To send a clear
signal that these should not be implemented, the Working Group has
requested that these documents be moved to historic.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IETF requesting comments
on the movement of DS1 and DS3 MIBS to historic.
o IP Addressing
The IP Addressing paper submitted to the IESG for Proposed Standard
has been split into two documents. A section by Elise Gerich has
been published as RFC 1366, "Guidelines for Management of IP Address
Space" and the remainder has been reposted as an Internet Draft.
The Authors have asked that the documents progressed. The IESG
discussed the document and agreed that the Internet Draft
"Guidelines for IP Address Allocation" should be published as an
Informational RFC.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After getting comments from Yackov, send a
document action to the RFC Editor and IETF for the IP Addressing
Guidelines to Informational mentioning the original submission for
Proposed Standard.
Technical Management Issues
o Approval of IESG Re-Organization
The IESG discussed and approved the two-phase re-alignment of IESG
Areas discussed at the December 2nd special teleconference.
ACTION: Gross -- Announce the IESG re-organization to the IETF mailing
list.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Update the secretariat records to reflect the new
IESG structure.
o IP Version 7 Protocol Review
The IESG recognizes that a comprehensive review of the ROAD
protocols is not likely to be completed by December 15th as hoped
for in the IETF Plenary. To discuss the course of action a single
topic teleconference was planned. The date is to be announced.
ACTION: Coya -- Set up a IESG Teleconference to discuss the ROAD
Proposals and planning.
o Sun NFS and RPC
Sun has expressed an interest to the IESG to move NFS and RPC into
the IETF standards process. They recognize that this will entail
giving change control to the IETF. The IESG discussed (briefly)
this proposal and agreed to it enthusiastically. The
standardization of NFS and RPC has been an goal for several
years.
ACTION: Hobby -- Explore with SUN the details of giving change control
to the IETF for standardizing NFS and RPC.
Appendix - Summary of Action Items
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a protocol action notice to the RFC Editor
and the IETF elevating the Identity protocol and the Ident MIB to
Proposed Standard.
ACTION: Hobby -- Research and prepare a technical summary of the
FTP/FTAM gateway protocol and a report on the constituency of the
protocol.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With text from Stev Knowles outlining the current
operational experience, send a last call for the elevation of MTU
Discovery to Draft Standard.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IETF requesting comments
on the movement of DS1 and DS3 MIBS to historic.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a document action to the RFC Editor and IETF
for the IP Addressing Guidelines to Informational. Make mention of the
original submission for Proposed Standard and send the document to
Yackov for comments before sending.
ACTION: Gross -- Announce the IESG re-organization to the IETF mailing
list.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Update the secretariat records to reflect the new
IESG structure.
ACTION: Coya -- Set up a IESG Teleconference to discuss the ROAD
Proposals and planning.
ACTION: Hobby -- Explore with SUN the details of giving change control
to the IETF for standardizing NFS and RPC.
