This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
ATTENDEES
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Almquist, Philip / Consultant
Borman, David / Cray Research
Crocker, Dave / TBO
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
Regrets
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
AGENDA
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1) Administivia
o Role Call
o Bash the Agenda
o Approval of the Minutes
- November 2nd
o New Area Director Search Report
2) Protocol Actions
o Token Ring MIB
o Ident MIB
o Ident
o String Representation of Distinguished Name
Technical Management Issues
o ROAD Action Plan for Washington
- ROAD Decision Plan
- Presentation planning for Monday
o Integration of the OSI Area.
MINUTES
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1) Administrivia
o Approval of the minutes
Minutes of November 2nd were approved.
o New Area Director Report
After talking with the several candidates proposed during the last
IESG meeting to replace Noel Chiappa, Phil Gross, with the approval
of the IESG, invited Stev Knowles to join the IESG. Steve Knowles
accepted and was added to this teleconference.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Add Stev Knowles to the IESG mailing lists and
record his new position in the on-line information.
2) Protocol Actions
o Token Ring MIB
No action to report.
o IDENT/ IDENT MIB
No action to report.
o String Representation of Distinguished Names
The IESG has reviewed and has agreed to recommend "String
Representation of Distinguished Names" as a Proposed Standard. (See
note in appendix)
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
Internet Draft <draft-ietf-osids-distnames-04, .txt, .ps> as a Proposed
Standard.
3) Technical Management Issues.
o Road Decision
The IESG Road decision plan was published as RFC 1380. A second
effort to expand and prioritize the decision criteria has been
submitted as an Internet Draft, and a BOF to discuss these and the
IESG criteria has been scheduled for the Washington DC IETF
meeting. It has been pointed out that Network Operators and users
have been under-represented in the selection criteria and that
special attention may need to be given to those who's concerns may
be diminished in the quest for technical solutions.
The IESG plan calls for making a decision on an IPV7 candidate
following the November IETF meeting. With at least two strong
contenders that will satisfy the initial milestones, it is not clear
that a single choice can be clearly made. The IESG considered
several options, and agreed that the goal still remains to narrow
the choice to a single candidate for IP Version 7 at some point
after the plenary meeting.
POSITION: The IESG intends to bring about as much closure in the next
IP decision as possible at the November 92 IETF meeting. While the
goal is to choose one proposal, the IESG will not rush into an
unfounded judgement in the face of the published timeframe.
The IESG agreed to meet again November 10th to discussed possible
criteria and milestones to be used in the event a choice is not
possible at the November IETF meeting.
ACTION: Coya -- Schedule a teleconference for Tuesday November 10th
from 1-2 PM ET.
o Monday ROAD Plenary Presentations.
The IESG has been asked to re-allocate the time for IPv7
presentations at the next plenary. The TUBA proposal relies upon
the understanding of CLNP, and time was requested for a review of
the CLNP proposal. The time for the presentations was too tight to
allow a new presentation. However, it was observed that the SIP and
IPAE efforts have, to some extent, merged and may be able to combine
their presentations. If this is possible, the presentation slots
will become longer allowing some time in the TUBA presentation for
CLNP.
ACTION: Almquist -- Contact Steve Deering and ascertain whether the SIP
and IPAE presentations can be merged. Further remind Deering of the
requirement to publish an Internet Draft describing SIP by this
Wednesday to retain his speaking slot should he decide to keep it.
o IESG Re-Alignment
The IESG discussed and initially accepted the proposal to integrate
the OSI Working Groups into their natural areas. Dave Piscitello
indicated that he was now willing to move to the Internet Area and
assume responsibility for PDN and Large Network Issues as well as
oversee the integration of OSI network layer protocols. After
Steve Knowels indicated his willingness to serve as an Internet Area
Director and joined the teleconference, he expressing a desire to
not serve as part of a triumverate. With the immediate need of
finding help for Philip Almquist and with little time to explore
partial integration of the OSI Working Groups, the IESG reconsidered
the OSI integration proposal and opted to delay action.
Appendix -- Summary of Mailing List Discussions
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o User Friendly Naming
Steve Kent submitted a series of comments shortly after the
teleconference, mostly pertaining to documentation style and
clarification. In particular he has asked that an addition example
be included and that a section describing an optional/ not
recommended format be dropped from the document. This section was
added to satisfy Christian Huitema who during this exchange agreed
that it should be deleted. Dave Crocker raised a concern over
Friendly Naming's use of comma as a separating, since it will cause
difficulties for RFC822 parsers should the DN's be used in email
addresses. Crocker was satisfied with an explanation of the Working
Groups reasoning.
ANTI-ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Do Not send a recommendation for the String
Representation of Distinguished Name document.
ACTION: Huizer -- Communicatate the comments received by the IESG to
the OSIDS Working Group and encourage a new version of the String
Representation of Distinguished Name document.
Appendix -- Action Items
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ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Add Stev Knowles to the IESG mailing lists and
record his new position in the on-line information.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
Internet Draft <draft-ietf-osids-distnames-04, .txt, .ps> as a Proposed
Standard.
ACTION: Coya -- Schedule a teleconference for Tuesday November 10th
from 1-2 PM ET.
ACTION: Almquist -- Contact Steve Deering and ascertain whether the SIP
and IPAE presentations can be merged. Further remind Deering of the
requirement to publish an Internet Draft describing SIP by this
Wednesday to retain his speaking slot should he decide to keep it.
Appendix -- Positions Taken
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POSITION: The IESG intends to bring about as much closure in the next
IP decision as possible at the November 92 IETF meeting. While the
goal is to choose one proposal, the IESG will not rush into an
unfounded judgement in the face of the published timeframe.
