This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
ATTENDEES
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Almquist, Philip / Consultant
Borman, David / Cray Research
Crocker, Dave / TBO
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
Regrets
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
AGENDA
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1) Administivia
o Role Call
o Bash the Agenda
o Approval of the Minutes
o Next Meeting
2) Protocol Actions
o IP over FDDI to Standard
o Network Time Protocol V3 to Draft Standard
o Telnet Environment Option
o Telnet Authentication
o Token Ring MIB
o RIP Version 2
o RIP Version 2 MIB
o RIP Protocol Analysis
o Ident MIB
o Ident
o String Representation of Distinguished Name
3) Technical Management Issues
o Expired Protocols
o ROAD Decision Process
o Partridge and Kastenholz Criteria
o Poised Working Group
MINUTES
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1) Administrivia
o Approval of the Minutes
The minutes of the October 19th Teleconference were approved.
o Next Meeting
The IESG plans to meet by teleconference Monday November 9th at
Eta. The agenda will be focused on the process by which the IESG
will evaluate the IP V7 proposals.
2) Protocol Actions
o IP and ARP over FDDI
The IP and ARP over FDDI protocol was approved by the IESG for
recommendation to the IAB as a full Standard. This protocol is
widely implemented by most router vendors and is widely deployed in
commercial and university backbone networks.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
Internet Draft <draft-ietf-fddi-ipoverfddi-00.txt> as a full Standard.
o Network Time Protocol
The IESG discussed the two known NTP implementations and concluded
that they were sufficiently independent for Draft Standard. The IESG
continues to have concerns that this complex protocol, with its
many tunable parameters may be difficult to implement from the
specification. The IESG will look for additional implementations
before considering this protocol for Full Standard.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB recommending the
elevation of the Network Time Protocol to Draft Standard status.
o Telnet Environment Option
The Telnet Working Group has submitted to the IESG a revised
Environment option. This new version is intended to answer the
objections raised by the IAB to the open-ended, Unix-centric nature
of the previous submission. The IESG agreed that a last call was
now appropriate.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call for the Telnet Environment
Option.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the IAB pointing out the Telnet
Environment Option Last Call and specifically requesting comments.
o Telnet Authentication
The Telnet Working Group submitted to the IESG several documents
for authenticating Telnet connections. These include a base
authentication document, and specific profiles for SPX and
Kerberos. These documents are complete for their intended purpose
but are likely to be extended to include encryption in the
near future. The Working Group has asked for an Experimental
Protocol designation in the absence of a more formal Prototype
designation. The IESG agreed that after these documents are given
a security review by Steve Crocker, they should be published as
Experimental Protocols.
ACTION: Crocker (In absentia): Review the Telnet authentication
protocols.
o Token Ring MIB
Nothing to report.
o Routing Information Protocol
An external review was done by Noel Chiappa. The protocol fits
within the currently defined routing architecture and support the
subnet masks and AS number needed for CIDR deployment. A few
documentation shortcoming were identified and one technical concern
was raised, specifically the possibilities of routing loops or
failure where RIPv2 and RIPv1 are running together where subnetting
has been enabled. Text identifying this problem should be added.
ACTION: Hinden -- Get a new copy of the RIP V2 protocol posted as an
Internet Draft.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Hinden, take Chiappa's review and write a
recommendation to elevate the RIP V2 Protocol to Proposed Standard once
the new Internet Draft is posted.
Technical Management Issues
o Review of Expired-in-Grade Protocols
Several protocols not previously on the IESG list of in-progress
works were noted. The IESG briefly reviewed each one and determined
tentative courses of actions.
- Telnet Linemode Option
The Telnet Linemode option is widely used but the document
required clarifications in several points. It is not clear to what
extent these clarifications reflect current practice and whether
there is demonstrated incompatibilities.
ACTION: Hobby -- Encourage the revision of the Telnet Linemode Option
and begin research into the operational use of this protocol.
- CMOT
The CMOT protocol as defined in RFC 1189 "Common Management
Information Services and Protocols for the Internet" has expired in
grade. The IESG was not aware of any currently implementations of
this protocol and agreed to issue a last call to move this protocol
off the standards track to Historical.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move CMOT to
Historical Standard Status.
- NFS/RPC
The Sun NFS and RPC protocols have been on the expired list for
some time. There have been several efforts both to gain change
control to allow these protocols to continue in the standards track
and efforts to update the documentation with little success. The
IESG agreed to issue a Last Call to move these protocols off the
standard track to Informational.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move Sun NFS and RPC
to Informational Status.
o IP Version 7 Decision
The IESG began discussing whether the a reasonable pruning of
proposals can occur after the November IETF meeting. It is not
likely that any particular proposal will be complete and
implementation and transition information is anticipated to be
sketchy. The IESG has firm plans to review the criteria and explore
each proposal in terms of the criteria, however it is not clear that
a pruning to a single proposal will be possible. The IESG plans to
discuss the current plans in depth during the next teleconference.
o Criteria from Partridge and Kastenholtz
Additional IPv7 Evaluation criteria were suggested by Craig Partridge
and Frank Kastenholtz beyond the criteria initially suggested by the
IESG. The IESG discussed this effort and agreed that it was positive
and that the work should be reviewed with the IESG proposal at a BOF
during the Washington DC IETF meeting. Philip Almquist agreed to
chair this meeting as the Internet AD.
ACTION: Coya -- Find a time and schedule a session for the IP V7
Criteria BOF.
o Poised Working Group
A strawman proposal was sent to the Poised mailing list and had a
quenching effect. The reduced level of discussion indicates some
degree of uncertainty. The proposal was neither blasted nor praised.
Several interpretations were discussed, and the IESG members agreed
to individually solicit comments and encourage further discussion.
Appendix - Action Items
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ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
Internet Draft <draft-ietf-fddi-ipoverfddi-00.txt> as a full Standard.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB recommending the
elevation of the Network Time Protocol to Draft Standard status.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call for the Telnet Environment
Option.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a note to the IAB pointing out the Telnet
Environment Option Last Call and specifically requesting comments.
ACTION: Crocker (In absentia): Review the Telnet authentication
protocols.
ACTION: Hinden -- Get a new copy of the RIP V2 protocol posted as an
Internet Draft.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Hinden, take Chiappa's review and write a
recommendation to elevate the RIP V2 Protocol to Proposed Standard once
the new Internet Draft is posted.
ACTION: Hobby -- Encourage the revision of the Telnet Linemode Option
and begin research into the operational use of this protocol.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move CMOT to
Historical Standard Status.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call proposing to move Sun NFS and RPC
to Informational Status.
ACTION: Coya -- Find a time and schedule a session for the IP V7
Criteria BOF.
