IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
August 24th, 1992
Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
[email protected]
ATTENDEES
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Borman, David / Cray Research
Crocker, Dave / TBO
Crocker, Steve / TIS
Coya, Steve / CNRI
Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
Gross, Philip / ANS
Hobby, Russ /UC-Davis
Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
Regrets
Almquist, Philip / Consultant
Hinden, Robert / SUN
Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
AGENDA
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1) Administrivia
o Bash the Agenda
o Next Meeting
o IESG-Admin mailing list
2) Protocol Actions
o Ethernet MIB
o Dynamic Host Configuration
o Hub MIB
3) Technical Management Issues
o ROAD Work Plan
o SMP Chairman
o TAP and STD/RFC Confusion
4) Working Group Actions
o Integration of Internet Information Service (iiis)
o IP Address Encapsulation (ipae)
o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service (wnils)
MINUTES
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1) Administrivia
o Bash the Agenda
The IESG agenda was altered as the meeting progressed.
o Next Meeting.
The IESG agreed to meet weekly for the next month to continue work
on the backlog of items. These meetings will each be from 12-2 pm
ET. August 31th, September 10th or 11th, September 14th, September
21st, October 1st
o IESG-ADMIN mailing list
To foster more effecient scheduling of IESG meetings, a new mailing
list was set up to include administrative support people responsible
for IESG members calendars.
ACTION: Coya -- Set up the
[email protected] mailing list and
send a notice to the IESG soliciting entries.
2) Protocol Actions
o Ethernet MIB
The Ethernet MIB was approved as revised during the last call
period.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to publish the Ethernet MIB
as a Draft Standard.
o Hub MIB
The IESG discussed the single comment raised during the last call
period, agreed upon a response and approved the 802.3 Repeater MIB
for Proposed Standard.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
802.3 Repeater MIB as a Proposed Standard.
o Dynamic Host Configuration
The review of the Dynamic Host Configuration was assigned to the
Transport and Services area and will be reviewed by Dave Borman.
ACTION: Borman -- Review the set of Dynamic Host Configuration
documents.
3) Technical Management Issues
o ROAD Work Plan
The IESG discussed a work plan document combined from Philip
Almquist's draft and the IESG proposal sent to the Big-Internet
list. The IESG agreed that the document should be posted as an
Internet Draft as soon as possible. Publication as an
Informational RFC was discussed but deferred until the IETF had a
chance to review and submit comments.
ACTION: Gross - Make final edits with Bob Hinden to the IESG ROAD Work
Plan and submit the document to the Internet Drafts directory for
review.
IPAE is the first Working Group proposed under the work plan and
the IESG decided to actively solicit additional charters before
announcing IPAE. Because of the shortage of resources in the
Internet Area the tasks of soliciting the charters was distributed
among the IESG.
ACTION: Dave Crocker -- Get a final version of the IPAE charter to the
IESG.
ACTION: Piscitello -- Work to get a charter for the TUBA effort
submitted to the IESG.
ACTION: Davin -- Work to get a charter for the PIP protocol effort
submitted to the IESG.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Work with Noel Chiappa to get a charter for a
NIMROD working group.
Work on Integrating CIDR into the current routing protocols is
progressing in individual Working Groups in the Routing Area. The
IESG felt that additional coordination was needed for deployment in
addition to the BGP efforts and tasked Stockman to assemble and
charter a CIDR deployment working group.
ACTION: Stockman -- Form a Cidr Deployment Working Group.
o SMP Working Group Chairmanship
Finding a chairman for the SMP Working Group continues to be a
challenge. The IESG discussed the wisdom of requesting the Area
Director for Network Management Chuck Davin chair this group. The
IESG agreed that this was not an optimal solution and requested
that the search be expanded to individuals who are not central to
the SNMP community.
o TAP and the RFC/STD confusion
Daniel Bernstein has submitted his TAP specification to the RFC
Editor for publication as a Informational document. This document
is roughly equivalent to a document submitted earlier as a Proposed
Standard for which the IDENT Working Group was formed. The author
is not satisfied with the work of this group and has asked to have
his submission published as Informational. The IESG discussed this
request with the RFC Editor and has suggested that in the current
environment where RFCs are equated incorrectly with standards,
publication of TAP would be seen as directly competing with the
efforts of the IETF working group.
The cause of confusion is the procedure by which an Informational
document specifying protocol is published. The STD series does not
appear to have reduced the appearance of RFCs as standard to
outside individuals. Currently the RFC Editor may at his discretion
publish the document, an awkward procedure when the IESG suggests
that the document should not be published.
ACTION: Dave Crocker -- Write a proposed policy on the publication of
Informational documents specifying protocol as RFCs.
ACTION: Gross -- Make a request to the IAB Executive Director to hold a
joint IESG/IAB teleconference to discuss this persistent procedural
problem.
4) Working Group Actions
o Integration of Internet Information Services (IIIS)
The proposed IIIS working group is one of several working groups
being formed to address the needs of the Internet for Resource and
Information location services. IIIS is intended to take the work of
several prototype services like Archie, Prospero, Gopher and WWW,
determine common requirements and define a common protocol.
The IESG discussed this working group in the context of two other
recently proposed, but not initially coordinated WGs -- Universal
Resource Locator/Universial Document Identifier (URL) and Network
Information Retrieval (NIR). These groups each address a specific
part of what should be considered as a coordinated project.
IIIS will standardize upon an information access protocol. URL will
standardize on a common global document naming convention. NIR will
determine what needs naming and how to name it.
The IESG agreed that these working groups needed to be tightly
coordinated and well managed to insure a workable solution.
Therefore, rather than approve the charters of these groups
individually, the IESG opted to encourage the IIIS and other WGs to
write coordinated charters.
To achieve this coordination, the IESG asked Huizer, Hobby, and
Reynolds to draft a brief architecural overview statement that could
be referenced by, or incorporated into, the charters of each WG.
The IESG decided to create these working group in the Applications
area under Russ Hobby. They will be co-managed by Joyce Reynolds in
the User Services area.
ACTION: Hobby, Reynolds, Huizer -- Draft a Brief (~1 page)
overview/architecture for a coordinated "Integrated Internet
Information Service".
ACTION: Hobby, Reynolds -- Coordinate the drafting of the charters for
the proposed Integrated Internet Information Services, Universal
Document Identifier and Network Information Retreival Working Groups to
align with the above overview/architecture..
The Coalition for Network Information (CNI) has express an interest
in supporting and participating in the work of these working
groups.
ACTION: Reynolds, Gross -- With the architecture and charters for the
internet information working groups, meet with CNI and discuss
arrangements for effective liaison and participation.
o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service (wnils)
The IESG reviewed the wnils charter. The WHOIS protocol is widely
implemented and the IESG is reluctant to sanction a major
extension. The IESG is supportive of an effort to foster
operational coordination and consistent information responses.
ACTION: Hobby -- Contact the chair of the proposed WNILS Working Group
and seek clarifications in the charter on the scope of the effort.
o IP Encapsulation (ipae)
The IESG reviewed the IPAE charter. With minor changes, the IESG
approved the work plan, but will delay announcement of this working
group until the IESG ROAD work plan is published as an Internet
Draft.
ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IESG ROAD work plan, announce the IPAE
Working Group to the IETF.
