IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)

                 REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE

                      April 27th, 1992

        Reported by:  Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary

This report contains

       - Meeting Agenda
       - Meeting Attendees
       - Meeting Notes

Please contact IESG Secretary Greg Vaudreuil for more information.


ATTENDEES
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   Almquist, Philip / Consultant
   Borman, David / Cray Research
   Chiappa, Noel
   Crocker, Steve / TIS
   Coya, Steve / CNRI
   Davin, Chuck / MIT
   Gross, Philip / ANS
   Hinden, Robert / BBN
   Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
   Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
   Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
   Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI

Regrets
   Crocker, Dave / TBO
   Estrada, Susan / CERFnet
   Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
   Reynolds, Joyce / ISI


AGENDA
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1. Administrivia
  1.1 Bash the Agenda
  1.2 Approval of the Minutes
     No minutes ready for review
  1.3 Next Meeting

2.0 Review of Action Items

3.0 Protocol Actions
   3.1.1 IDPR
   3.1.2 PPP Authentication
   3.1.3 IP over X25/ISDN

4.0 Old Protocol Actions

 Proposed Standards
  4.1 RFC 1144  VJ Header Compression
  4.2 RFC 1139  ISO "PING"
  4.3 RFC 1094 NFS
  4.4 RFC 1057 RPC
  4.5 RFC 1056 PCMAIL
  4.6 RFC 1037 NFILE
  4.7 RFC 1026, 987 X.400(84) <=> RFC 822 Mapping
  4.8 RFC 977 NNTP
  4.9 RFC 953 Hostname Server
  4.10 RFC 913 SFTP
  4.11 RFC 887 Resource Location
  4.12 RFC 734 SUPDUP
Draft Standards
  4.13 RFC 1115, 1114, 1113 Privacy Enhanced Mail
  4.14 RFC 951, 1084 Bootstrap Protocol

5.0 Technical Management Issues
  5.1 ROAD Recommendation
  5.2 Review of Reporting
  5.3 Remote Database Access over TCP
  5.4 Dead/Sleeping Working Groups
  5.5 IETF Plenary Meeting Schedule

6.0 Working Group Actions
 To be created
  6.1  Network Access Servers (nasreq)
 To be Concluded/made dormant
  6.2 Router Discovery
  6.3 Bridge MIB
  6.4 Decnet Phase IV MIB



MINUTES
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1.0 Administrivia

1.1 Review the Agenda

  The Agenda was reviewed and several topics were added.

1.2 Review of Minutes

  No Minutes were available for review at this meeting.

1.3 Next Meeting

  The next meeting was set for Monday April 4th, EDT.

2.0 Review of Action Items

  Review of the action items was deferred.

3.0 Protocol Actions

3.1 InterDomain Policy Routing (IDPR)

  Discussion is continuing on the IDPR Working Group mailing list. The
  topics include questions on the intended standardization status and
  technical design choices.  To broaden the discussion, and clarify
  the intended status for IDPR, the IESG. agreed that the current
  recommendation from the working group for Proposed Standard should
  be sent to the IETF as a last call.

ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call to the IESG for the elevation of
IDPR to Proposed Standard.

3.2 PPP Authentication

  A new version of this document was posted to the Internet Draft
  directory.  It was not clear whether this was the latest version nor
  whether it satisfied the editorial concerns of the Security area.
  Pending clarification of the version number, the IESG approved this
  document for Proposed Standard.

ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Work with Steve Crocker to determine if the latest
PPP Authentication Internet Draft is the latest version, and if so send
a recommendation to the IAB.

3.3 IP over X.25/ ISDN Packet Mode

  The IESG received a request to elevate the IP over X.25 document to
  Proposed Standard.  A last call has been issued and has not yet
  expired. Technical discussion on this protocol was deferred until
  the next meeting.

4.0 Old Protocol Actions

  The IESG has begun the task of reviewing protocols which have been
  in grade for more than 2 years.  During this meeting the IESG made a
  first cut and assigned reviewers for the protocols. The RFCs discussed are
  listed below.

4.1 RFC 1139 ISO PING

  Dave Piscitello took an action to review the current implementation
  and operational experience of this protocol.

ACTION: Piscitello --  Contact Sue Hares to begin an investigation into
the implementation and operational status of this protocol to determine
if it is ready for Draft Standard.

4.2 RFC 1139 NFS
4.3 RFC 1194 RPC

  These protocols are in a confused state.  They document widely used
  but proprietary protocols and would not meet current requirements
  for Proposed Standards.  It is also not clear whether these
  documents reflect the latest versions of the protocols nor the
  versions widely implemented.

  The IESG feels that these protocols are appropriate candidates for
  standardization provided the normal IAB standardization rules and
  proceedures can be met.  There has been sporadic dialogue with SUN
  Microsystems on the status of these protocols.  If Sun does not
  desire to standardize these protocols with the current rules, the
  IESG will recommend moving these protocols to historical state.

ACTION: Borman -- Contact Sun and explain the current status of NFS and
RPC and the new requirements for standard track protocols.  Determine
if Sun is interested in pursuing standardization.

4.13 Privacy Enhanced Mail

  At the request of the PEM working group, the IESG decided to
  recommend moving the PEM protocol as defined in RFCs 1113 1114 and
  1115 to historical status.  This action will hopefully reduce
  confusion for implementors of PEM who continue to use these outdated
  specifications.  By recommending that the RFC's defining PEM be moved
  to Historical Standard, the IESG is not recommending that PEM itself
  be moved to Historical Standard.  It is expected that PEM as defined
  in several Internet drafts will become a Proposed Standard in the
  near future.

Action: Vaudreuil -- Send a last call for comments on moving the RFC's
defining PEM to Historical Status.

 4.14 RFC 951, 1084 Bootstrap Protocol

  The Dynamic Host configuration Working Group is using Bootp as the
  basic of the DHC protocol.  Bootp as defined in RFC 1084 needs
  clarifications.  A document in the Internet Drafts directory
  describes updates and clarifications to Bootp.   BootP as written
  should not advance.  There is some talk of making a bootp version 2
  which includes the work of the DHC Working Group.   The future
  status of Bootp needs clarification.

ACTION: Chiappa and Borman -- Research and present to the IESG a
recommendation for the disposition of RFCs 951 and 1084, the Bootstrap Protocol.

5.0 Technical Management Issues

5.5 IETF Plenary Meeting Schedule

  The IESG continued the discussion on the IETF plenary schedule and
  decided to move the Open plenary to Thursday Evening to open up more
  time for working group sessions.  The IESG will meet together after
  the plenary session for a dinner and short working session.  The
  IESG will continue to have lunch on Wednesday, but opted against
  using another evening to conduct business that could be done by
  teleconference.

The new schedule:

               Mon.      Tue.      Wed.        Thu.       Fri.
0900-0930       Plen      Tech      Tech        Tech       Tech

0930-1200       WG        WG        WG          WG         Area Reports

1330-1530       WG        WG        WG          WG

1600-1800       WG        WG        WG          Tech

1900-2200       BOF/WG**  BOF/WG    BOF/WG      Open Plenary


The following Topics were deferred until the next meeting.


5.1 Routing and Addressing Recommendation.

  The draft IESG recommendation was not yet ready for review.

5.2 Review of Reporting

5.3 Remote Database Access over TCP

  Russ Hobby was unable to attend the IESG teleconference and discuss this issue.

5.4 Dormant/Dead working groups

5.6 TSIG/ IETF Interactions

6.0 Working Group Actions
 To be created
  6.1  Network Access Servers (nasreq)
 To be Concluded/made dormant
  6.2 Router Discovery
  6.3 Bridge MIB
  6.4 Decnet Phase IV MIB