TELECOM Digest Fri, 11 Mar 94 13:43:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 125
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Unitel Carrier Vote Proposal Criticised (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
Expanded 900 Service in Canada (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
Experience With a Telemarketer (Dave Niebuhr)
Competition and Technology (Stewart Fist)
"Nevada Plan" Information Needed (Tad J. Hunt)
Latest Telephone Scumbag Use (Dave Niebuhr)
ISDN BRI to IXC? (John McHarry)
Video Conference Bridges (John McHarry)
Mintel Emulation Software for MacIntosh Wanted (Franck Nazikian)
Re: Erlang B and Required Trunks Functions (Stu Jeffery)
Re: Information on Used Telecom Equipment Dealer Wanted (Dennis R. Hilton)
Re: Digital Cellular Phones (David Boettger)
Re: Can I Expect More Than 2400 Baud? (Bill Mayhew)
Re: Unzipping ISDN File in Archives (
[email protected])
Re: Local CID Showing Out of Area (Dave Niebuhr)
Re: Country Code For San Marino? (Bill Hofmann)
Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number (Eric Andruscavage)
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From:
[email protected] (Dave Leibold)
Date: 10 Mar 1994 23:08:42 -0500
Subject: Unitel Carrier Vote Proposal Criticised
Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
[from Bell News, Bell Ontario 7 Mar 94]
Bell votes NO to Unitel's balloting proposal
Bell strongly objects to the procedure, the price and the principle of
"balloting" customers to ask them to vote for the long distance carrier
they would prefer to do business with.
Last Wednesday, Unitel Communications asked the CRTC to implement
balloting to "provide residential and business customers with the
opportunity to select their preferred long-distance carrier."
The procedure, countered Bell, would be "complex and costly, one not
in the public interest" -- a position Unitel itself previously advanced.
The price, pointed out Bell, would involve some $15 million in mailing
costs alone.
But the principle of this referendum, said Bell, "ignores the fact
that competition and free choice are already here in Canada -- and have
been here for almost two years now. Consumers can pick up the phone
and select any alternate long distance carrier they want today."
"While Unitel wraps itself in the flags of competition and choice,
what it is really proposing is the imposition of another layer of
regulatory process in what is -- and should remain -- a free market
decision," the company said in a public statement.
Furthermore, said Bell, "We don't think customers will buy into the
idea of a cumbersome, disruptive, and ultimately costly process that
purports to give them what they already have: full choice.
"It's like asking customers to fill out a ballot to decide what
grocery store to shop at; they go to the one they believe offers them
the best service and the best value. We doubt that customers want to
be subjected to a referendum process for this kind of everyday, free
market decision."
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From:
[email protected] (Dave Leibold)
Date: 10 Mar 1994 23:09:06 -0500
Subject: Expanded 900 Service in Canada
Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
[from Bell News, Bell Ontario 7 Mar 94]
Advantage 900 now interactive
Advantage 900 service has just become interactive, and less _risque._
The CRTC has granted approval of an enhanced Advantage 900 [tm]
service. The enhancements include premises-based Advantage 900 and
premium pricing which have been added to the already available
network-based Advantage 900.
With Advantage 900, callers are invited to dial certain 900-prefixed
numbers so they can, for example, catch up on the latest news, get
help while using their computer, or show their support for a political
candidate.
Information providers who qualify with the CRTC guidelines for content
(porn purveyors won't make the grade) can have callers pay for Advantage
900 on a per-call basis, with the charges appearing on their telephone
bill.
Stentor developed the new premises-based Advantage 900 in response to
customer demand for a more interactive way to communicate with callers.
With premises-based Advantage 900, businesses and organization can
offer pre- recorded, live and interactive programming from virtually
anywhere in Canada. Callers have easy, direct-dial access to the
customized information they need. Calls can terminate at the
business's or organization's location, instead of at a telephone
company office.
With premium pricing, businesses, governments and organizations with
Advantage 900 have the flexibility to set the price charged to
Advantage 900 callers. They can also arrange to have the Stentor-
owner companies, like Bell, bill and collect charges on their behalf.
Previously, only network-based Advantage 900 has been available. With
network-based Advantage 900, all calls are routed to recorded messages
which are stored on the local telephone company's equipment, so callers
had access only to one-way information.
With approval from the CRTC, Stentor now has strict program content
guidelines and consumer safeguards for Advantage 900 to protect
callers from incurring unwanted charges. For example, the guidelines
do not permit adult programming -- so called "gab" lines -- or programs
that assign personal identification numbers (PINS) which must be used in
subsequent calls.
Callers will also hear a preamble message describing the program, the
call charge and the service provider's name. If callers hang up in the
first 18 seconds of the call, they will not be charged.
The maximum allowable charges for Advantage 900 are $3.00 per call for
programs intended for children and $50.00 for all other programs.
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 06:43:14 EST
From:
[email protected] (Dave Niebuhr)
Subject: Experience with a Telemarketer
I had an interesting experience with a persistent telemarketer last
night.
I'm listed in the phone book but not under my name.
The first call came in (labelled Out-of-Area on my CID box) and the
caller was told that there was no one in the house named "insert a
name" there; less than a minute another call came in with the same ID
and I took the call and told the woman that there was no one living in
my house with the name she mentioned and that her information was
obviously incorrect (true since it doesn't reveal my name).
Call number three was the shortest. As soon as I said hello, she
hung up.
Using the pseuodnym is handy since it eliminates the "wheat from the
chaff" type of telemarketing calls. Yes, I do accept some calls but
only from companies that I deal with. Sears is an example. I'll get
calls from them to take out a service contract on some appliance that
I've bought from them; my fuel oil company trying to sell me fuel oil
(yes, it does do that), etc.
Dave Niebuhr Internet:
[email protected] (preferred)
[email protected] / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 (516)-282-3093
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From: Stewart Fist <
[email protected]>
Subject: Competition and Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:14:05 GMT
Jerry Leichter <
[email protected]> writes:
> I have great respect for competition, but I have yet to see a sound
> argument that the advance in services available *since* deregulation
> is signficantly different from the advance *before* deregulation -
> AFTER CONTROLLING FOR THE EXTRAORDINARY ADVANCE IN APPLICABLE
> TECHNOLOGY.
I couldn't agree more. I've just spent a lot of time analysing the
long-distance charges (and the changes thereof) from country A to country B
using a range of figures produced by the OECD, for a commissioned report.
It is difficult stuff to analyse, but one thing became quite clear.
There's been no more drop in international long-distance call prices
in advanced (OECD) countries with competitive regimes than there has
in those with monopoly regimes. I must say I was surprised at these
findings, because the monopolies actually did slightly better --
although the difference wasn't significant.
My guess is that this results from a monopoly (at one end of a
connection) having a duopoly to deal with (at the other), and
therefore they can deal in such a way as to retain mutual higher
prices from the duopoly end to the monopoly, but not from the monopoly
end to the duopoly. The other guess, is that the duopolies and full
competitive regimes spend so much on marketing and advertising that it
wipes any 'competitive' advantage out. Certainly telephone companies
are now the major financial supporters of television networks because
of their levels of ad expenditure.
One of the problems with Adam Smithian economics and the value of
competition, is that it assumes that the price set by the suppliers
results from the sale of a scarce resource. The whole of modern
economic theory rests on the theory that price is a balance between
competiting suppliers bidding down the price (to near real-cost
levels) and competing buyers who will effectively pay ever higher
prices for advantage in accessing the scarce resource. Eventually a
balance is reached between the buyers buying, and the sellers selling.
The trouble is that once you lay in a 36 fibre 1.2 Gigabit/sec cable
between a couple of reasonable size towns, and you shove 32kbit/s
ADPCM along it, you get a theoretical 1.3 million simultaneous calls,
at an amortised price of about $US6 million a year for distances of
about 1000 km. Which works out to about $5 per year per voice
circuit.
How does competition operate in an environment like this? Obviously,
at these cost levels and with this capacity, a single cable, or a
couple can satisfy most of the requirements of our largest cities -
and the total expenditure on the cable is chickenfeed. Is it then in
the interests of the competing companies to battle fiercely for market
share by dropping prices, or by using the profit creaming to fund
marketing plans and advertising?
When you dig down to the bottom, the problem is that in an era where
long-distance connection abundance is the norm (except that in many
cases this is being deliberately knobbled) the normal competitive
market forces do not apply in the way that conventional economics says
it should.
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From:
[email protected] (Tad J. Hunt)
Subject: "Nevada Plan" Information Needed
Date: 11 Mar 1994 12:09:55 -0500
Organization: Murray Enterprises
I am looking for information related to what has been referred to as
the Nevada Plan -- an arrangment where a long distance company pays
the local termination charges to the owner of the phone number instead
of the local phone company but that number can only be reached by
using that long distance carrier. I would like to know if any special
phone equipment is necessary to operate under such an arrangement.
And who can I contact at AT&T or some other carrier to discuss this?
I believe that speedway.net, an Internet services provider, is set up
this way.
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 08:42:45 EST
From:
[email protected] (Dave Niebuhr)
Subject: Latest Telephone Scumbag Use
There is a scumbag on Long Island (area code 516) who is preying on
women at home with the use of telephones.
This dirtbag is calling the women and telling them that they have
kidnapped their husbands and won't release them until the woman
performs sexual acts with him. Even worse is that not only does he
call at various hours during the day, but he calls during rush hours
when the husband is more than likely unavailable.
One call had a twist: he told the woman that he had kidnapped her
mother and was going to rape her if she wife didn't comply.
The police have advised that all calls should be reported immediately
and if the homeowner has Caller ID, that should be checked to see if a
number appears. Fat chance on this since Caller ID isn't 100 percent
deployed to all exchanges and all possible telephone numbers. A
better way would be to use the "Trap and Trace" feature even if it
costs $0.75(US) per use and I believe it is available on all lines the
same as per-call or per-line blocking.
Dave Niebuhr Internet:
[email protected] (preferred)
[email protected] / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 (516)-282-3093
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This is an old one; it has gone around
for many years. I remember hearing the phone company and police warn
people against this ruse thirty years ago. I think you have to be awfully
dumb to fall for it, but then, a lot of people are awfully dumb which is
why it always seems to work so well with each new generation. One woman
completly messed up the game when she got called: after being told her
husband had been kidnapped and what she would have to do to get him back
her answer was, "Keep the old %$^&^* ... I don't want him back." PAT]
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:46:01 EST
From: John McHarry <
[email protected]>
Subject: ISDN BRI to IXC?
If I have an ISDN Basic Rate Interface (BRI) from my local exchange
carrier and want to place an interexchange data call, how does the LEC
interconnect with the IXC? Somebody told me that this has to be
hooked to a switched 56kb trunk, but I don't see why the LEC couldn't
just send it in a regular Feature Group D and tell the IXC it was a
data call in the SS7 message. Am I missing something?
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From: John McHarry <
[email protected]>
Subject: Video Conference bridges
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:49:33 EST
Who makes video conference bridges? What types of compressed video
can they work with? Any thoughts on what is good, bad, etc.?
John McHarry
[email protected]
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 02:03:14 GMT
From:
[email protected] (Franck Nazikian)
Subject: Minitel Emulation Software for MacIntosh Wanted
Thank you very much for your help! I finally could solve my problem
of Minitel emulation for P.C. Now, I've got another request: where
can I find a Minitel emulation software for Macintosh, available on
the Internet?
Best regards,
CII ITESM
Franck NAZIKIAN
Sucursal de Correos "J"
MONTERREY N.L. 64849 MEXICO
Tel: (52-8)-358-20-00 exts.50-76
Fax: (52-8)-328-40-81
Internet:
[email protected]
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 00:02:35 -0800
From:
[email protected] (Stu Jeffery)
Subject: Re: Erlang B and Required Trunks Functions
In TELECOM Digest V14 #121
[email protected] (John Osmon)
writes:
> I am a programmer in the Telecom Department here at Dell, and my
> latest project is to pull trunk usage data and produce usage
> predictions for said trunks.
> This isn't really my field, so I had a co-worker write the request for
> me:
> We need a way to calculate the number of voice circuits needed to
> provide standard levels of service using the Retrial method. Ideally
> we would plug into a formula the following:
> - offered CCS of traffic
> - grade-of-service desired (P.01, P.001, P.05)
> The formula would then calculate the number of trunks needed WITHOUT
> resorting to lookup tables.
> If available, formulas for Erlang B method would also be useful.
> These would be most useful as assembler, C, or XBase sub-routines.
> Does any one know where I can find these?
There are several ways of solving the equations with a recursive form
of the Equation. I have seen several Traffic Engineering books with
Basic programs. Here is one example in C that I wrote.
/*
* This program will compute required number of circuits
* for designated Grade of Service, using Erlang B equation
*/
/*
* include files
*/
#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h>
main()
{
double C, Traffic, GOS, Prob_of_cong, B;
int Trunks, A_max;
while ( 1 == 1)
{
printf( "Offered Traffic: " );
scanf( "%lf", &Traffic);
printf( "GOS: " );
scanf( "%lf", &GOS )
Prob_of_cong = 1;
Trunks = 0
while ( Prob_of_cong > GOS)
{
Trunks = Trunks + 1;
Prob_of_cong = (Prob_of_cong * Traffic) /
(Trunks + (Traffic * Prob_of_cong));
}
printf( "Number of ckts %i and conjestion %5.4f\n",
Trunks, Prob_of_cong );
printf (" \n");
}
}
Sample output
Offered Traffic: 10
GOS: .01
Number of ckts 18 and conjestion 0.0071
Offered Traffic: 10
GOS: .02
Number of ckts 17 and conjestion 0.0129
Offered Traffic: 10
GOS: .05
Number of ckts 15 and conjestion 0.0365
Offered Traffic: 20
GOS: .01
Number of ckts 30 and conjestion 0.0085
Offered Traffic: 20
GOS: .02
Number of ckts 28 and conjestion 0.0188
Offered Traffic: 20
GOS: .05
Number of ckts 26 and conjestion 0.0372
Stu Jeffery Internet:
[email protected]
1072 Seena Ave. voice: 415-966-8199
Los Altos, CA. 94024 fax: 415-966-8199
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From:
[email protected] (Dennis R. Hilton)
Subject: Re: Information on Used Telecom Equipment Dealer Wanted
Date: 11 Mar 94 04:46:32 GMT
Reply-To:
[email protected]
Organization: kaiwan.com Internet Access (714) 638-2139
In article <
[email protected]>, Kenneth Leung wrote:
> I am looking for dealers of used telecom equipment such as AT&T Merlin
> phone sets and used AT&T PBXs.
Call information for Long Beach, CA, and ask for Native Son (or Sun)
communications.
Best,
Dennis R. Hilton <
[email protected]>
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 07:32:00 +0000
From: david boettger <
[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Digital Cellular Phones
In article <
[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Steve
Forrette) writes:
> In <
[email protected]>,
[email protected] (John Galloway) writes:
>> But if this key is fixed (since it is not transmited I assume it is)
>> then all the cellular blue box builder need to is disect a phone to
>> get it. This might not be a trivial opeation, but these crooks are
>> pretty smart fellows.
> Are you assuming that the key is the same for all phones?
What good is a key that's the same for all phones?
> If the key is different for each phone, then the crook would have to
> get a hold of a particular phone to dissect it to get the key. And if
> they have physical possession of the phone, there is little need to
> get the key in order to make fraudulent calls, right?
Yup. That's the idea.
David Boettger
[email protected]
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From:
[email protected] (Bill Mayhew)
Subject: Re: Can I Expect More Than 2400 Baud?
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 16:34:10 GMT
As pointed out, the underlying symbol rate for 14.4 Kbps modems is
still 2400 baud. Nonetheless, my practical experience in running our
modem bank connecting 13 hospitals in six cities here in NE Ohio, is
that 14.4K is much more troublesome than 9600 bps data calls over POTS
(plain old telephone service) lines.
I use good quailty Multitech or DSI rack type modems on my end, but
the user community can have almost any sort of equipment. The
Multitechs support 14.4K v.32bis while the DSIs are 9600 v.32 max
modulation. There is definitely a correlation between good name brand
equipment and the success of the connection.
My chief problem is that users call my system with their modems set to
demand 14.4K rate. Our systems will connect, but the error correction
rate is so high that througput is almost zero. Apparently, whatever
heuristic method is used by the modems doesn't see anything wrong with
the connection and thus force a fallback. I do have my end programmed
to accept and/or request a fallback. I've also tried calling from
some of the troublesome locations and thus am sure that their modems
have fallback enabled too, yet the connection will remain stoically
locked at 14.4K doing copious error correction with abysmal throghput.
I've gone over the prblem with Multitech and didn't get anything more
than the patented Tom and Ray Magliozi mechanic's shrug as a response.
>From those same troublesome locations, virtually all calls forced to
initate with 9600 moduation complete with hardly any error correction
and good througput.
I don't have any current means of measuring it, but what I am
beginning to suspect is that there is phase jitter present on these
lines. The modem training sequence can do echo cancellation, group
delay equalization and amplitude equalization, but the training
sequence can't compensate for rapidly varying phase shift on the line.
The nature of the problems I have doesn't seem to depend on the length
of the circuit or number of central offices involved.
What puzzles me is that the modems don't fall back when the performacne
gets to be so bad. It would appear that the error correction engine
needs to have some sort of input the the egine that handles modulation.
I am not imtimately familiar with v.32bis / v.42bis specifications,
but some handshaking between the two parts of the modem would seem to
be a most reasonable and logical thing to do.
Bill Mayhew NEOUCOM Computer Services Department
Rootstown, OH 44272-0095 USA phone: 216-325-2511
[email protected] amateur radio 146.58: N8WED
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 01:58:00 EST
From:
[email protected]
Subject: Re: Unzipping ISDN File in Archives
[email protected] (jeff shaver) wrote:
> I recently ftp'ed the ISDN.deployment.data.zip file from the Telecom
> Archives, but I can't unzip it. PKZip 2.04(g?) tells me it's not a
> zip file. Any ideas? Thanks for your help!
The file may have been zipped using an older version of PKZip. PKWare
came out with a new version of the zipping software, which is not bak-
wards compatible with the older version. It may need the older version
to unzip it properly. (This created downloading hell on a lot of bulletin
boards here recently.)
Another possibility is that the FTP was done using ASCII, not binary,
resulting in a corruption of the file as it came over the system.
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Whatever the cause, I now have another
copy of it here in a MIME version and will send it to whoever writes me
to ask for it. This one is supposed to work with 2.04 PKUNZIP. PAT]
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 06:35:55 EST
From:
[email protected] (Dave Niebuhr)
Subject: Re: Local CID Showing Out of Area
>
[email protected] (Steve Forrette) wrote:
> In <
[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Richard
> Dervan) writes:
>> I had an interesting experience last week. I got paged by my computer
>> indicating it had received a voice message for me. Since I was
>> expecting a message from my sweetie, I went to a pay phone, called my
>> computer, and picked up the message.
>> When I got home, I saw OUT-OF-AREA on my CID box.
> Did you use coins to place the call? Any other method of payment
> (such as calling card, collect, etc) is likely to cause OUT OF AREA on
> a Caller ID box, even if both ends of the call are in the same CO.
When CID was deployed in my area (516 area code), I tried calling home
from a pay phone and the number was displayed. However, when I call
home while I'm having my car serviced at a local service station, the
number doesn't show.
The difference is that the pay phone on the corner is NYNEX owned,
and the other one is a COCOT.
Dave Niebuhr Internet:
[email protected] (preferred)
[email protected] / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Senior Technical Specialist, Scientific Computing Facility
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973 (516)-282-3093
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From:
[email protected] (Bill Hofmann)
Subject: Re: Country Code For San Marino?
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:09:38 GMT
I just checked out the report from Martin Kealey about San Marino's
country code change. According to Sprint International Operator, the
country code is indeed 378.
Also, on the former Soviet Union, I just heard from Lithuania's embassy
about telecom there. Some highlights:
* city codes have been shortened: Vilnius now is "2", not "0122"
other city codes are shortened in a similar way.
* long distance access code is 8<pause>2, intl is 8<pause>10
* operator is 8p194, 8p195 (English), 8p196 (AT&T)
There are access codes to former USSR cities, but I don't have the data
in front of me.
Bill Hofmann
[email protected]
Fresh Software and Instructional Design +1 510 524 0852
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From:
[email protected] (Eric Andruscavage)
Subject: Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number
Date: 11 Mar 1994 12:53:29 -0500
Organization: Zeta Data, Laurel, Maryland, USA
> [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: ... this? Because they take advantage
> of a class of people who have absolutely no other choice in how
> their phone calls are placed; i.e. prisoners.
Does this mean that prison phones are blocked from calling 1-800-COLLECT
or the 800 number for AT&T long distance? I would like to say that I once
got a collect call from a prisoner (wrong number, I hope) and the
operator made it clear that it was a collect call from a federal
prison. Since we normally accepted collect calls, I would have taken
the call if this hadn't been made clear. I wonder if MCI or AT&T would
provide the same service.
Eric Andruscavage
First thing - let's kill all the Shakespeareans
DBMS Design/Programming/Training/Answers Questioned
Laurel, Maryland * 301/206-2030
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: There is a Class of Service available in
modern switches to accomodate telephones used by prison inmates. For quite
a long time all the phones at Cook County Jail including the administrative
ones have been on their own centrex: 312-890. But the phones used by prison-
ers are very restricted.
All calls have to be dialed zero-plus. All one-plus calls are intercepted
with 'call cannot be completed as dialed ...' Stuff like 10xxx/800/950/etc.
is totally blocked out. Those calls all go to intercept if dialed as
one-plus and just vanish in the ether, neither completing or getting denied
if dialed as zero-plus. Zero-plus any regular area code and number brings a
telco operator on the line whose display clearly indicates the circumstances
and the *only* way she can process the call is on a collect basis. No credit
card or third number billing is allowed, and as you pointed out, the operator
plainly tells the called party that the call is collect from (name), a
prisoner at Cook County Jail. If someone knew the numbers on the phones in the
cellblocks and tries to call in, an intercept says the number is in service
for outgoing calls only. The phones all have rotary dials, of course, so there
can be no games with touch-tones. Dialing to other extensions on the centrex
is blocked, as are calls to the 0 operator, 411, 611, and 911.
In the regulations pertaining to equal access and the use of 10xxx, etc, there
are exceptions built in for certain circumstances, prisons and jails being one
such circumstance. Gee, and *you* thought the college phone system in your
dorm was pretty restrictive :) Look how bad the 'students' have it at the
College of Hard Knocks and Practical Experience. :) PAT]
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Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #126
TELECOM Digest Fri, 11 Mar 94 14:51:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 126
Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson
Country Code Listing (Lars Poulsen)
BCE Buys More Atlantic Interests (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
Mexico Link For Canada Direct (Bell News via Dave Leibold)
Re: Clipped Again (Maxime Taksar)
MCI Wow It's Hot Hotline (Jonny Quest)
Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number (Steve Cogorno)
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 09:58:08 +0100
From:
[email protected] (Lars Poulsen)
Subject: Country Code Listing
Organization: CMC Network Products, Copenhagen DENMARK
In article <
[email protected]> is written:
> Can anyone send me a list of current two and three character country
> codes. I have most of them, but what with the breakup of various
> countries and what-not, I figure I'm missing a few (codes, that is)
I found this list at my local IP service provider's FTP server. The
three-digits codes are NOT telephone country codes; the only place I
have seen them used, is in MS-DOS.
Postal Address:
ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency
DIN Burggrafenstrasse 6
D-1000 Berlin 30
phone: +49 30 26010
Fax: +49 30 2601231
NOTE: Entries for Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia Hercegovina not yet complete.
AFGHANISTAN AF AFG 004
ALBANIA AL ALB 008
ALGERIA DZ DZA 012
AMERICAN SAMOA AS ASM 016
ANDORRA AD AND 020
ANGOLA AO AGO 024
ANGUILLA AI AIA 660
ANTARCTICA AQ ATA 010
ANTIGUA AND BARBUDA AG ATG 028
ARGENTINA AR ARG 032
ARMENIA AM ARM 051
ARUBA AW ABW 533
AUSTRALIA AU AUS 036
AUSTRIA AT AUT 040
AZERBAIJAN AZ AZE 031
BAHAMAS BS BHS 044
BAHRAIN BH BHR 048
BANGLADESH BD BGD 050
BARBADOS BB BRB 052
BELGIUM BE BEL 056
BELIZE BZ BLZ 084
BENIN BJ BEN 204
BERMUDA BM BMU 060
BHUTAN BT BTN 064
BOLIVIA BO BOL 068
BOSNIA HERCEGOVINA BA BIH
BOTSWANA BW BWA 072
BOUVET ISLAND BV BVT 074
BRAZIL BR BRA 076
BRITISH INDIAN OCEAN TERRITORY IO IOT 086
BRUNEI DARUSSALAM BN BRN 096
BULGARIA BG BGR 100
BURKINA FASO BF BFA 854
BURUNDI BI BDI 108
BELARUS BY BLR 112
CAMBODIA KH KHM 116
CAMEROON CM CMR 120
CANADA CA CAN 124
CAPE VERDE CV CPV 132
CAYMAN ISLANDS KY CYM 136
CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC CF CAF 140
CHAD TD TCD 148
CHILE CL CHL 152
CHINA CN CHN 156
CHRISTMAS ISLAND CX CXR 162
COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS CC CCK 166
COLOMBIA CO COL 170
COMOROS KM COM 174
CONGO CG COG 178
COOK ISLANDS CK COK 184
COSTA RICA CR CRI 188
COTE D'IVOIRE CI CIV 384
CROATIA HR HRV
CUBA CU CUB 192
CYPRUS CY CYP 196
CZECH REPUBLIC CZ CZE 203
CZECHOSLOVAKIA CS CSK 200
DENMARK DK DNK 208
DJIBOUTI DJ DJI 262
DOMINICA DM DMA 212
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC DO DOM 214
EAST TIMOR TP TMP 626
ECUADOR EC ECU 218
EGYPT EG EGY 818
EL SALVADOR SV SLV 222
EQUATORIAL GUINEA GQ GNQ 226
ESTONIA EE EST 233
ETHIOPIA ET ETH 230
FALKLAND ISLANDS (MALVINAS) FK FLK 238
FAROE ISLANDS FO FRO 234
FIJI FJ FJI 242
FINLAND FI FIN 246
FRANCE FR FRA 250
FRENCH GUIANA GF GUF 254
FRENCH POLYNESIA PF PYF 258
FRENCH SOUTHERN TERRITORIES TF ATF 260
GABON GA GAB 266
GAMBIA GM GMB 270
GEORGIA GE GEO 268
GERMANY DE DEU 276
GHANA GH GHA 288
GIBRALTAR GI GIB 292
GREECE GR GRC 300
GREENLAND GL GRL 304
GRENADA GD GRD 308
GUADELOUPE GP GLP 312
GUAM GU GUM 316
GUATEMALA GT GTM 320
GUINEA GN GIN 324
GUINEA-BISSAU GW GNB 624
GUYANA GY GUY 328
HAITI HT HTI 332
HEARD AND MC DONALD ISLANDS HM HMD 334
HONDURAS HN HND 340
HONG KONG HK HKG 344
HUNGARY HU HUN 348
ICELAND IS ISL 352
INDIA IN IND 356
INDONESIA ID IDN 360
IRAN (ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF) IR IRN 364
IRAQ IQ IRQ 368
IRELAND IE IRL 372
ISRAEL IL ISR 376
ITALY IT ITA 380
JAMAICA JM JAM 388
JAPAN JP JPN 392
JORDAN JO JOR 400
KAZAKHSTAN KZ KAZ 398
KENYA KE KEN 404
KIRIBATI KI KIR 296
KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF KP PRK 408
KOREA, REPUBLIC OF KR KOR 410
KUWAIT KW KWT 414
KYRGYZSTAN KG KGZ 417
LAO PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC LA LAO 418
LATVIA LV LVA 428
LEBANON LB LBN 422
LESOTHO LS LSO 426
LIBERIA LR LBR 430
LIBYAN ARAB JAMAHIRIYA LY LBY 434
LIECHTENSTEIN LI LIE 438
LITHUANIA LT LTU 440
LUXEMBOURG LU LUX 442
MACAU MO MAC 446
MADAGASCAR MG MDG 450
MALAWI MW MWI 454
MALAYSIA MY MYS 458
MALDIVES MV MDV 462
MALI ML MLI 466
MALTA MT MLT 470
MARSHALL ISLANDS MH MHL 584
MARTINIQUE MQ MTQ 474
MAURITANIA MR MRT 478
MAURITIUS MU MUS 480
MEXICO MX MEX 484
MICRONESIA FM FSM 583
MOLDOVA, REPUBLIC OF MD MDA 498
MONACO MC MCO 492
MONGOLIA MN MNG 496
MONTSERRAT MS MSR 500
MOROCCO MA MAR 504
MOZAMBIQUE MZ MOZ 508
MYANMAR MM MMR 104
NAMIBIA NA NAM 516
NAURU NR NRU 520
NEPAL NP NPL 524
NETHERLANDS NL NLD 528
NETHERLANDS ANTILLES AN ANT 532
NEUTRAL ZONE NT NTZ 536
NEW CALEDONIA NC NCL 540
NEW ZEALAND NZ NZL 554
NICARAGUA NI NIC 558
NIGER NE NER 562
NIGERIA NG NGA 566
NIUE NU NIU 570
NORFOLK ISLAND NF NFK 574
NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS MP MNP 580
NORWAY NO NOR 578
OMAN OM OMN 512
PAKISTAN PK PAK 586
PALAU PW PLW 585
PANAMA PA PAN 590
PAPUA NEW GUINEA PG PNG 598
PARAGUAY PY PRY 600
PERU PE PER 604
PHILIPPINES PH PHL 608
PITCAIRN PN PCN 612
POLAND PL POL 616
PORTUGAL PT PRT 620
PUERTO RICO PR PRI 630
QATAR QA QAT 634
REUNION RE REU 638
ROMANIA RO ROM 642
RUSSIAN FEDERATION RU RUS 643
RWANDA RW RWA 646
ST. HELENA SH SHN 654
SAINT KITTS AND NEVIS KN KNA 659
SAINT LUCIA LC LCA 662
ST. PIERRE AND MIQUELON PM SPM 666
SAINT VINCENT AND THE GRENADINES VC VCT 670
SAMOA WS WSM 882
SAN MARINO SM SMR 674
SAO TOME AND PRINCIPE ST STP 678
SAUDI ARABIA SA SAU 682
SENEGAL SN SEN 686
SEYCHELLES SC SYC 690
SIERRA LEONE SL SLE 694
SINGAPORE SG SGP 702
SLOVAKIA SK SVK 703
SLOVENIA SI SVN
SOLOMON ISLANDS SB SLB 090
SOMALIA SO SOM 706
SOUTH AFRICA ZA ZAF 710
SPAIN ES ESP 724
SRI LANKA LK LKA 144
SUDAN SD SDN 736
SURINAME SR SUR 740
SVALBARD AND JAN MAYEN ISLANDS SJ SJM 744
SWAZILAND SZ SWZ 748
SWEDEN SE SWE 752
SWITZERLAND CH CHE 756
SYRIAN ARAB REPUBLIC SY SYR 760
TAIWAN, PROVINCE OF CHINA TW TWN 158
TAJIKISTAN TJ TJK 762
TANZANIA, UNITED REPUBLIC OF TZ TZA 834
THAILAND TH THA 764
TOGO TG TGO 768
TOKELAU TK TKL 772
TONGA TO TON 776
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO TT TTO 780
TUNISIA TN TUN 788
TURKEY TR TUR 792
TURKMENISTAN TM TKM 795
TURKS AND CAICOS ISLANDS TC TCA 796
TUVALU TV TUV 798
UGANDA UG UGA 800
UKRAINE UA UKR 804
UNITED ARAB EMIRATES AE ARE 784
UNITED KINGDOM GB GBR 826
UNITED STATES US USA 840
UNITED STATES MINOR OUTLYING ISLANDS UM UMI 581
URUGUAY UY URY 858
USSR SU SUN 810
UZBEKISTAN UZ UZB 860
VANUATU VU VUT 548
VATICAN CITY STATE (HOLY SEE) VA VAT 336
VENEZUELA VE VEN 862
VIET NAM VN VNM 704
VIRGIN ISLANDS (BRITISH) VG VGB 092
VIRGIN ISLANDS (U.S.) VI VIR 850
WALLIS AND FUTUNA ISLANDS WF WLF 876
WESTERN SAHARA EH ESH 732
YEMEN, REPUBLIC OF YE YEM 887
YUGOSLAVIA YU YUG 890
ZAIRE ZR ZAR 180
ZAMBIA ZM ZMB 894
ZIMBABWE ZW ZWE 716
Lars Poulsen Internet E-mail:
[email protected]
CMC Network Products Phone: (011-) +45-31 49 81 08
Hvidovre Strandvej 72 B Telefax: +45-31 49 83 08
DK-2650 Hvidovre, DENMARK Internets: designed and built while you wait
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From:
[email protected] (Dave Leibold)
Date: 10 Mar 94 23:08:28 -0500
Subject: BCE Buys More Atlantic Interests
Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
[from Bell News, Bell Ontario, 7 Mar 94]
BCE acquires Bruncor and MT&T shares
BCE, our parent corporation, has increased its stake in two phone
companies in the Atlantic provinces.
BCE now owns 8,902,015 shares of Bruncor Inc. of New Brunswick,
representing approximately 41.04 per cent of Bruncor's issued and
outstanding common shares, and 9,925,564 common shares of Maritime
Telegraph and Telephone Company (MT&T) of Nova Scotia, representing
approximately 35.4 per cent of MT&T's issued and outstanding common
shares.
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From:
[email protected] (Dave Leibold)
Date: 10 Mar 94 23:08:54 -0500
Subject: Mexico Link for Canada Direct
Organization: FidoNet: The Super Continental - North York, Canada
[from Bell News, Bell Ontario 7 Mar 94]
Mexico joins Canada Direct
For Canadians soaking up Mexican rays, calling home just became a
whole lot easier.
Canadian tourists or business people can now use their Calling Card or
Call Me Card, thanks to Telmex's activation on February 16 of Canada
Direct service.
Canada Direct service allows Canadians travelling on foreign soil to
call home with the assistance of Canadian operators. The service
avoids the potential for confusion when dealing with an operator who
has little or no command of English or French.
To call home from Mexico with Canada Direct, callers dial 95 800 010
1990 to connect with a Canadian operator.
With the Calling Card information supplied by the caller, the operator
validates the card and completes the call.
Canada Direct is also available in 87 other countries.
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Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 11:06:39 -0800
From: Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS <
[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Clipped Again
In article <
[email protected]>,
[email protected]
(A. Padgett Peterson) writes:
> This makes no sense to me. Today there is *no* privacy in phone calls
> so the question must have been worded so as to imply that there is for
> people to believe that Clipper provides *less*.
This is actually something that deserves being addressed.
At the moment, there *is* privacy in phone calls, in the sense that
it's difficult for a (hypothetical) agency of the government to do
complete, automated traffic analysis of any given telephone. Clipper
will make this possible to an agency that does not mind skirting
inconvenient laws and that can get easy access to most, if not all,
phone traffic in the US. The NSA has a very good possibility (and has
a history [read {The Puzzle Palace} by James Bamford for details]) of
engaging in such activities, so this is not merely hypothetical.
In any case, I think this has strayed from general telecom topics and
probably belong in comp.society.privacy, comp.risks, and/or talk.politics.
crypto.
Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS
[email protected] PGP key by request
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From:
[email protected] (Jonny Quest)
Subject: MCI Wow It's Hot Hotline
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 18:46:33 GMT
Does anyone know this number? I saw it a few days ago and lost it.
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From:
[email protected] (Steve Cogorno)
Subject: Re: Prisoner Starts Own 900 Number
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:40:26 PST
TELECOM Digest Editor Noted:
> Most hitchikers didn't fare as well with him. Maybe you just weren't
> his type. :)
And what type is that? I certainly hope that is not driven by homophobia.
Since we are discussing politics here, I would like to point out that
just because he was convicted of murder and imprisoned does not mean
that he shouldn't be able to run a 900 number business. If people
want to call, that's their prerogative. How is it different from
Angela Davis (who is a very well respected professor in academic
circles) writing a book while she was a political prisoner? Both are
telling their versions of the truth, and if you want to hear it, fine.
If you don't, then don't call.
Steve
[email protected]
#608 Merrill * 200 McLaughlin Drive * Santa Cruz, CA 95064-1015
[TELECOM Digest Editor's Homophobic Response: Thank you for sharing your
version of the truth with us. To compare Angela Davis and her crimes with
people like John Wayne Gacy and Jeff Dahmer (talk about homophobia! the
one killed homosexuals, the other one ate them ...) is a bit of a stretch
in my opinion but you are entitled to make that comparison if you wish. I
am not certain how Ms. Davis would feel about the comparison. PAT]
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