Network Working Group                                         R. Austein
Request for Comments: 3197                                 InterNetShare
Category: Informational                                    November 2001


            Applicability Statement for DNS MIB Extensions

Status of this Memo

  This memo provides information for the Internet community.  It does
  not specify an Internet standard of any kind.  Distribution of this
  memo is unlimited.

Copyright Notice

  Copyright (C) The Internet Society (2001).  All Rights Reserved.

Abstract

  This document explains why, after more than six years as proposed
  standards, the DNS Server and Resolver MIB extensions were never
  deployed, and recommends retiring these MIB extensions by moving them
  to Historical status.

1. History

  The road to the DNS MIB extensions was paved with good intentions.

  In retrospect, it's obvious that the working group never had much
  agreement on what belonged in the MIB extensions, just that we should
  have some.  This happened during the height of the craze for MIB
  extensions in virtually every protocol that the IETF was working on
  at the time, so the question of why we were doing this in the first
  place never got a lot of scrutiny.  Very late in the development
  cycle we discovered that much of the support for writing the MIB
  extensions in the first place had come from people who wanted to use
  SNMP SET operations to update DNS zones on the fly.  Examination of
  the security model involved, however, led us to conclude that this
  was not a good way to do dynamic update and that a separate DNS
  Dynamic Update protocol would be necessary.

  The MIB extensions started out being fairly specific to one
  particular DNS implementation (BIND-4.8.3); as work progressed, the
  BIND-specific portions were rewritten to be as implementation-neutral
  as we knew how to make them, but somehow every revision of the MIB
  extensions managed to create new counters that just happened to
  closely match statistics kept by some version of BIND.  As a result,
  the MIB extensions ended up being much too big, which raised a number



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  of concerns with the network management directorate, but the WG
  resisted every attempt to remove any of these variables.  In the end,
  large portions of the MIB extensions were moved into optional groups
  in an attempt to get the required subset down to a manageable size.

  The DNS Server and Resolver MIB extensions were one of the first
  attempts to write MIB extensions for a protocol usually considered to
  be at the application layer.  Fairly early on it became clear that,
  while it was certainly possible to write MIB extensions for DNS, the
  SMI was not really designed with this sort of thing in mind.  A case
  in point was the attempt to provide direct indexing into the caches
  in the resolver MIB extensions: while arguably the only sane way to
  do this for a large cache, this required much more complex indexing
  clauses than is usual, and ended up running into known length limits
  for object identifiers in some SNMP implementations.

  Furthermore, the lack of either real proxy MIB support in SNMP
  managers or a standard subagent protocol meant that there was no
  reasonable way to implement the MIB extensions in the dominant
  implementation (BIND).  When the AgentX subagent protocol was
  developed a few years later, we initially hoped that this would
  finally clear the way for an implementation of the DNS MIB
  extensions, but by the time AgentX was a viable protocol it had
  become clear that nobody really wanted to implement these MIB
  extensions.

  Finally, the MIB extensions took much too long to produce.  In
  retrospect, this should have been a clear warning sign, particularly
  when the WG had clearly become so tired of the project that the
  authors found it impossible to elicit any comments whatsoever on the
  documents.

2. Lessons

  Observations based on the preceding list of mistakes, for the benefit
  of anyone else who ever attempts to write DNS MIB extensions again:

  -  Define a clear set of goals before writing any MIB extensions.
     Know who the constituency is and make sure that what you write
     solves their problem.

  -  Keep the MIB extensions short, and don't add variables just
     because somebody in the WG thinks they'd be a cool thing to
     measure.

  -  If some portion of the task seems to be very hard to do within the
     SMI, that's a strong hint that SNMP is not the right tool for
     whatever it is that you're trying to do.



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  -  If the entire project is taking too long, perhaps that's a hint
     too.

3. Recommendation

  In view of the community's apparent total lack of interest in
  deploying these MIB extensions, we recommend that RFCs 1611 and 1612
  be reclassified as Historical documents.

4. Security Considerations

  Re-classifying an existing MIB document from Proposed Standard to
  Historic should not have any negative impact on security for the
  Internet.

5. IANA Considerations

  Getting rid of the DNS MIB extensions should not impose any new work
  on IANA.

6. Acknowledgments

  The author would like to thank all the people who were involved in
  this project over the years for their optimism and patience,
  misguided though it may have been.

7. References

  [DNS-SERVER-MIB]     Austein, R. and J. Saperia, "DNS Server MIB
                       Extensions", RFC 1611, May 1994.

  [DNS-RESOLVER-MIB]   Austein, R. and J. Saperia, "DNS Resolver MIB
                       Extensions", RFC 1612, May 1994.

  [DNS-DYNAMIC-UPDATE] Vixie, P., Thomson, S., Rekhter, Y. and J.
                       Bound, "Dynamic Updates in the Domain Name
                       System (DNS UPDATE)", RFC 2136, April 1997.

  [AGENTX]             Daniele, M., Wijnen, B., Ellison, M., and D.
                       Francisco, "Agent Extensibility (AgentX)
                       Protocol Version 1", RFC 2741, January 2000.










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8. Author's Address

  Rob Austein
  InterNetShare, Incorporated
  325M Sharon Park Drive, Suite 308
  Menlo Park, CA  94025
  USA

  EMail: [email protected]










































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