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Sat Jan 16 15:04:09 1982
pandora's box
>From GZ@MIT-MC Sat Jan 16 14:39:51 1982
As for EMACS -- well, the only decent EMACS-like editor is Gosling EMACS on
UNIX. It is true that this has been transported to Eunice, but several
highly important features are missing. The most important is the ability
to split the screen into two windows, and type commands directly to a OS
command language interpreter (i.e., SHELL) and have them executed. This
includes the ability to lift input and output out of the "shell window" and
stick it into some other editing buffer, and vice versa.
I don't know where you got the idea that you can't do this in the VMS version.
We are running very standard VMS, with a standard VMS-hacked distribution (from
Kashtan) of Gosling's Emacs. It is true you don't type stuff directly at the
OS command language interpreter -- you type stuff at emacs, using full emacs
editing facilities. That's half of the whole point. After you send it to the
OS, it puts the output in a buffer for you, where you can do what you want with
it, editing it, copying to another window, or whatever. You can even run the
whole thing at interrupt level, with mlisp routines you provide getting called
whenever the OS wants input or has output. In addition, you can have several
subprocesses running simultaniously, doing several compilations at the same
time, say. Stuff like splitting windows and other details of the user
interface are easily written in Mlisp. In general, while I could list many
complaints about the VAX Emacs, very few of them would be about the sub-process
handling facilities. I find them to be one of the most satisfying and least
amateurish parts of the emacs. In fact, nowadays, I tend to go into emacs
right after logging in, and hardly ever get out, instead doing all my work,
compilations, program testing, whatever, from inside emacs.
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