The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 06 11 Feb 2002

The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 06 11 Feb 2002
+--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
| |The newsletter of the | | Fido, Fidonet and dog-with-diskette are |
| | FidoNet community. | | US Registered Trademarks of Tom Jennings|
| | | | San Francisco, California, USA |
| | ____________| | |
| | / __ | Crash netmail articles to: |
| | / / \ | Editor @ 2:2/2 (+46-31-944907) |
| | WOOF! ( /|oo \ | Routed netmail articles to: |
| \_______\(_| /_) | Bjorn Felten @ 2:203/0 |
| _ @/_ \ _ | Email attach to: |
| | | \ \\ | [email protected] |
| | (*) | \ ))| |
| |__U__| / \// | Editor: Bj�rn Felten |
| ______ _//|| _\ / | |
| / Fido \ (_/(_|(____/ | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| (________) (jm) | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
+--------------------------+-----------------------------------------+
Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. INSIDE ................................................... 2
The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2
3. EDITORIAL ................................................ 3
C:\DOS, C:\DOS\RUN, RUN\DOS\RUN .......................... 3
4. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 4
Computer Nazi Bulletin Board Systems ..................... 4
Computer terminology ..................................... 6
5. OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER .......................... 9
You ask for it!!! ........................................ 9
6. FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN .......................... 12
Japanese Sock Stock (Fish) ............................... 12
7. POET'S CORNER ............................................ 13
Great Student Poem ....................................... 13
8. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 14
Mine is bigger than yours! ............................... 14
BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL #4 ............................ 14
A bottle of wine ......................................... 16
9. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................. 17
Fidonet Software List .................................... 17
10. FIDONET BY INTERNET ..................................... 21
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 21
11. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 26
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 26
12. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 28
How to Submit an Article ................................. 28
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 29
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 1 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
FOOD FOR THOUGHT
=================================================================

Experience is that marvelous thing, that enables you to recognize a
mistake when you make it again.

Warren Bonner

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 2 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
INSIDE
=================================================================

The Fidonews at a Glance

Is the BBS a dying dinosaur, or has it really a future? In the
"C:\DOS, C:\DOS\RUN, RUN\DOS\RUN" in the "Editorial" this week.

The "General Articles" section has two submissions. David Hagar
writes about "Computer Nazi Bulletin Board Systems", an article I
don't really understand, but never the less publish for you to try to
figure out. From the FN_SYSOP echo I snatched the wonderful "Computer
terminology" by Stewart Honsberger (with the authors approval of
course) about hacker vs. cracker.

Warren Bonner writes about the long overdue change of P4, that
never seem to happen, in "You ask for it!!!". He also sent a "Great
Student Poem" for the "Poet's Corner" section.

In our "International Kitchen" section, Carol makes "Japanese Sock
Stock" (yes, that's sock as in footwear!) this week.

The fourth episode from "BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL" in the "Clean
Jokes..." follows "Mine is bigger than yours!" from the archives --
clean or not, once again it's up to you to judge. "A bottle of wine"
is a cute story, that should have no trouble passing the "Clean" rule.

The section "Fidonet-related sites" has been reviewed by Shannon
Talley. Since I haven't received any reply to my email to Joe Jared
and the last files sent in by his robot have been identical, I assume
he has lost interest in this baby of his, so Shannon will probably be
in charge of the list from now on.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 3 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
EDITORIAL
=================================================================

C:\DOS, C:\DOS\RUN, RUN\DOS\RUN

Do you remember what it was like, when you got your first computer? If
you've been around for long enough, you probably remember the
frustrating feeling, staring at the DOS prompt and not knowing what to
do next.

Unlike today's installations, with flashy GUIs where not even the
most computer illiterate should have any problems mouse-clicking away
around all the available utilities, there really was no obvious way to
go on from the prompt, unless you were lucky enough to get some
helping text file or even a semi-smart batch file, with the
installation.

Maybe you knew about 'dir' and managed to find something that could
execute. But usually it was a real hassle to get things started. Then
came Norton Commander and later Windows, to make things a little more
user friendly. And suddenly the number of PC's exploded.

Just about the same goes for the Internet. At first there was not
much you could do, unless you knew exactly what you were going for.
Then came WWW and the web browsers, and the use of Internet exploded.

Now picture the ordinary BBS. Isn't that the same thing all over
again? You sit there staring at what look's suspiciously similar to a
DOS prompt, and are completely dependant of helping text files to get
you started, if you're a newbie.

Suppose we could get something that is to a BBS what WIMP was to
the OS and Netscape was to the Internet? Could that make the BBS world
explode just like the other two did?

Or can the painful truth be, that the BBS is as outdated as the
steam engine? But for the objects of a few enthusiasts, maintaining
engines on road, rail and sea, they are now nothing but picturesque
nostalgia?

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 4 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
GENERAL ARTICLES
=================================================================

Computer Nazi Bulletin Board Systems
David Wade Hagar, 1:229/448

We've all seen these people, the "nazi's" of various things.
In the TV show of Seinfield he coined the term "Soup Nazi" to describe
a person who was obsessive about soups and said lines like, "NO! No
more soup for you!" and took people's soups away. What does this have
to do with computer you ask? It is simple, just like the ever feared
"Library Nazi" (librarian who is obsessive about if you put a book on
a shelf just one book away from its desired slot) or the very common
"Kitchen Nazi", I think many of those around the world know this kind
of person and thus they need no real introduction except that they
consider a kitchen theirs, step inside and you may wish you were dead.
Well, there's another one known as the "Computer Nazi".

What exactly makes a Computer Nazi? Well, put simply a
Computer Nazi is a person who believes or acts like they know
everything about computers. Not only that, but they also expect
everyone else to simply agree with them. If you don't, then you must
not know what you are doing at all. Some Computer Nazi's really do
know a great deal about computers and have really good ideas but that
doesn't stop them from having a mind closed shut to ideas and methods
different from what they learned or currently practice, mind shut like
super re-enforced titanium gates lined in lead. Another thing that
creates a Computer Nazi at times is the ever popular god complex of
system administrators. The kind that would watch over a visiting
Computer Science specialist with decades of experience on top of his
or her training to make sure they didn't screw anything up. No one
knows what they are doing compared to these people (at least that is
what they have built up in their minds).

A Computer Nazi will often boot people off of their systems
for doing something "incorrect". An example of this is one of my
first BBS experiences. The system operator didn't like logon scripts,
feeling they screwed things up if written wrong and was tired of
helping people write them. So, if you logged in too fast, you were
booted and not allowed back in. Could they screw something up if
written wrong? Perhaps, if written complete wrong, after actually
installing and running the software used (WWIV for DOS) I discovered
that the only thing an improper logon script could cause was the modem
to hang up after 3 incorrect tries or perhaps the user timing out at
the worst case situation. In other situations the user simply screwed
up their defaults or something like that. Did all that many users use
logon scripts? No. Did the ones that used them have scripts that
were written that badly? Not after one or two tries. It was simply
that the system operator didn't want scripts used for whatever reason.
Many Computer Nazi's will also use random excuses as to why they do
things a certain way. Case in point, the above example of the system
operator kicking people off for using scripts for logon. When asked
by me to explain why (years later at a kind of BBS reunion) this
system operator went through excuses that ranged from saying that it
screwed up the system more often than not to the fact that the users
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 5 11 Feb 2002

who used such things would generally not properly log out or would
camp out on his modem for hours. After going through those and also
stating various things that "that kind of user" did finally this
system operator rested on saying "well, I just don't believe in them".
That is a key difference between a Computer Nazi and someone trying to
protect their system. If you go deep enough you find out that they
just don't like it (whatever it happens to be at the time).

Are there a lot of Computer Nazi's out there? In some cases
yes, they are everywhere, however, they are not all bad. A Computer
Nazi is the most likely to make sure that a corporate network stays
online, because no one gets away with anything. A computer Nazi is
also probably the one who will give you the straight shit on what he
or she knows about (the trouble can then be finding out what is just
personal opinion stated as fact and what he or she actually does know
about). However, the unwillingness to embrace any new ideas makes a
rather large problem when dealing with Computer Nazi's in a situation
where they must serve the public. Oh yes, they can be nice and put on
a false smile (at least most can) but they tend to be able to scare
people away from their areas when the ideas and methods they use are
challenged. This makes a Computer Nazi exceptionally bad at running a
BBS in many ways. New users are sometimes bombarded by rules and
regulations that they must adhere to or they can be booted off; have
online time reduced to something that is completely unusable. What
does the Computer (or BBS) Nazi say about this? They simply state a
truism, "It is my system, if they don't like me and they don't have to
call it." However, when providing a service would it not make sense
to take an attitude to get people to want to go to your system?
Probably, but the BBS Nazi doesn't see it this way, they see it as
everyone would just do it the "right way" with little room for free
will in this "right way" of doing things.

A BBS Nazi may also chase users away from other systems by
posting from his or her BBS to a networked message area and belittling
not only his or her own users but other peoples users as well. This
is exceptionally bad for message networks sometimes; especially since
no one really like to confront a BBS Nazi about their habits, it is
even more difficult than trying to convince a politician not to lie.
They may say they won't practice being a BBS Nazi again, but they will
time and time again. How do I know this? It happens on my own
system, people belittle my users on message networks until they do not
wish to post to them. These users then leave because the reason they
called in the first place was to participate in discussions online.

Should a BBS Nazi not be allowed on a network? Not exactly,
but people should not let them get away with chasing users away, how
would this be done? I have no idea; perhaps moderators should step in
(even if they agree with the viewpoint of the BBS Nazi) and ask them
to be nicer about their opinions. Or perhaps BBS Nazi's should just
let people be people and not bother trying to hit them over the head
with ideas and methods they don't want. That would in the end, be far
simpler than the customary method of thumping people over the head
with a hammer of ideas and thoughts until they say they agree or
leave.

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 6 11 Feb 2002

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Computer terminology
Stewart Honsberger, 1:229/604
<[email protected]>

xxx> hacker access denotes maliciousness and willful attemps

[...]

Sorry, but I have to stop you here. {sigh}

Hollywood has re-defined far too many terms in this day-in-age, and
rather unfortunately people appear to believe all of it. :/

A "Hacker" is a person with a great interest in things technological -
specifically and especially computers. Steve Wozniak is a hacker. He
was one of the most popular members of the "Homebrew Computer Club",
until Apple took up too much of his time, and it became too difficult
to share information without divulging company secrets (the
competitors were represented in the club, and listening in earnest to
every one of Woz's words).

Hackers are people who push the limits of computers to see where they
can be taken. They are fascinated with the ability to reach across an
ocean and interact in nanosecond-time with another human who has the
same interests. (All the while being dressed in jeans and a t-shirt,
drinking Jolt<tm> in their room, with their favourite tunes playing.)

Hackers build, program, investigate, seek, dumpster-dive for discarded
equipment, and assimilate information - all for the eventual goal of
reaching a zen-like state with these machines. A goal that they'll
never reach; a condition they're overjoyed to accept.

Hackers attempt to gain entry to systems considered to be secure in
order to learn about security measures and counter-measures. As a
result, hackers make the best network security personnel - so long as
their job doesn't detract too much from their hobby, that is.

The beginning and end goal of a hacker is learning. Knowledge that
they can only learn through trial and error - gained at the end (and
expense) of their own hands. Hackers think in binary - the most
elemental, logical form of thinking known to exist. Every condition is
true or false - +5V or 0V. The things in their world, unlike those in
the human world, exist for a reason. All behaviour can be explained,
problems sought out, solved, and advances can be made. A day's
acheivement for a hacker could be to discover a 'ping' sound from
within the annels of their server room, or to figure out how to
activate that last register within their new CPU, or to find that one
glimmering hole in the new, highly lauded security system.

Hackers are not vindictive, they are some of the most intelligent
people in our society and seek only to learn. Kevin Mitnick found
himself the unfortunate victim of government and media plans to create
a threat in the public's eye, and there the struggle began.

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 7 11 Feb 2002

Now we have crackers. Groups of people, often young, naive, and almost
always misguided - but occasionally very intelligent individuals who
readily accept the highly respected term of 'hacker'. They eat it up
so that they may find their 15 minutes of fame. They find and take the
spotlight that true hackers work so hard to avoid.

The mark of a true hacker is no mark at all. No point of entry, no
trace that they were even in your system. Tsutomu Shimomura was
fortunate enough to enter his computer time-share location just as
Mitnick was transferring data over his T1 line. Were it not for that
timing, and for Tsutomu's keen eye (and network monitoring software),
Mitnick would have come and gone - unknown to all.

Crackers, on the other hand, tend to leave their signature everywhere
they can find to put it. Like piss on a wall, they deface websites,
alter welcome screens, and generally disrupt daily operations of...
well, anything.

While the "Central Stupidity Agency" prank was amusing, it was no mark
of a hacker - it was the work of a (group of) cracker(s).

I'll leave off with something to think about. I'll let the piece speak
for itself.

----- Mentor's Last Words - Hackers Manifesto begins -----

Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers.
"Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker
Arrested after Bank Tampering"...

Damn kids. They're all alike.

But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's
technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker?
Did you ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped
him, what may have molded him?

I am a hacker, enter my world...

Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most
of the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...

Damn underachiever. They're all alike.

I'm in junior high or high school. I've listened to teachers
explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction. I
understand it. "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work. I did it in
my head..."

Damn kid. Probably copied it. They're all alike.

I made a discovery today. I found a computer. Wait a second, this
is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, it's
because I screwed it up. Not because it doesn't like me... Or
feels threatened by me... Or thinks I'm a smart ass... Or doesn't
like teaching and shouldn't be here...
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 8 11 Feb 2002

Damn kid. All he does is play games. They're all alike.

And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing
through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an
electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day
incompetencies is sought... a board is found.

"This is it... this is where I belong..."

I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked
to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...

Damn kid. Tying up the phone line again. They're all alike...

You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby food
at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you
did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless. We've been
dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic. The few that
had something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few
are like drops of water in the desert.

This is our world now... the world of the electron and the switch,
the beauty of the baud. We make use of a service already
existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't
run by profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals. We
explore... and you call us criminals. We seek after knowledge...
and you call us criminals. We exist without skin color, without
nationality, without religious bias... and you call us criminals.
You build atomic bombs, you wage wars, you murder, cheat, and
lie to us and try to make us believe it's for our own good, yet
we're the criminals.

Yes, I am a criminal. My crime is that of curiosity. My crime is
that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they
look like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that
you will never forgive me for.

I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto. You may stop this
individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

----- Mentor's Last Words - Hackers Manifesto ends -----

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 9 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER
=================================================================

You ask for it!!!
[email protected]

Many years have gone by, and all of them were fun in Fidonet land.
However, there has been a low growl in the background about the Policy
and it's limitations. That noise has increased with each year until
it has reached thunderous proportions. It seems that Policy 4.07 does
not seek to settle all the technical problems anymore. That really is
no wonder as it was written in the late eighties and amended in the
very early nineties, I am told. It was not ever ratified by the
SysOps, and thus another howl. Many things have happened over the
years that have exacerbated the discomfort of those SysOps who were
not content with the way Fidonet Policy was left unfinished, in their
opinion.

The fifteen years without serious consideration of the technical needs
of adjustment to Policy, have left it very precariously located in
most of the SysOps minds. The last Z1C election where the SysOps vote
ONLY by representation, was the kiss of death to the Policy 4.07. The
SysOps began to rebel. Only a few at first, but then many more were
to follow in the year since. The problem it seems is the inability of
the Policy to give the SysOps what they want, and taking away their
right to vote too.

I have for years supported the SysOps right to CHANGE Policy. Nothing
constructive in this direction until Dale Shipp came into the picture.
He offered to do all he could for the project including a echo.
Fidopols was re-opened on the backbone. The IC and Z1C have
indicated, according to those who are permitted to read the echoes,
that needed changes were under consideration. The whole thing is
dependant upon the SysOps to netmail their *C's. (IC, ZC, & RC's).
Tell them how you feel about the updating Policy. But FIRST, please
do familiarize yourself with the Policy per changes below.

8.1 Initiation

A referendum on policy modification is invoked when a majority
of the FidoNet Regional Coordinators inform the International
Coordinator that they wish to consider a proposed new version
of Policy.

8.2 Announcement and Results Notification

Proposed changes to Policy are distributed using the same
structure which is used to distribute nodelist difference files
and FidoNews. Results and announcements related to the
referendum are distributed by the coordinator structure as a
part of the weekly nodelist difference file. The International
Coordinator provides copies to the editor of FidoNews for
inclusion there, although the official announcement and
voting dates are tied to nodelist distributions.
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 10 11 Feb 2002

If it is adopted, the International Coordinator sets the effective
date for a new policy through announcement in the weekly
nodelist difference file. The effective date will be not more
than one month after the close of balloting.

8.3 Eligibility to Vote

Each member of the FidoNet coordinator structure at and above
Network Coordinator is entitled to one vote. (Hub coordinators
do not vote.) In the case of the position changing hands during
the balloting process, either the incumbent or the new
coordinator may vote, but not both. If a person holds more
than one coordinator position, they still receive only one vote.

Network coordinators are expected to assess the opinions of
the members of their network, and to vote accordingly.
A formal election is not necessary, but the network coordinator
must inform the net of the issues and solicit input. The
network coordinator functions as the representative of the rank
and file members of FidoNet.

(Here is where the "democracy" questions come in, and are
clearly answered. This shows definite and adequate node
representation, and should be read as stated.)
Bob Short

8.5 Voting on a whole Policy Document

Given that Policy is intertwined and self referencing, a
relatively simple change may require several alterations of
the document. In order to simplify the process, balloting is
done on choices between whole documents, rather than
individual amendments. In the simplest case, this means
voting yea or nay to a new document. If a number of
alternatives are to be considered, they must be presented
as whole documents, from which one is chosen.

(This may prove to be the most important area for change.
Implementation is a simple matter really, and can be detonated
in minor, and later combined into major versions, thus
simplifying the process.)
Bob Short

8.6 Decision of vote

A Policy amendment is considered in force if, at the end of the
balloting period, it has received a majority of the votes cast.
For example, if there were 350 eligible voters, 100 of which cast
a vote, then at least 51 affirmative votes would be required to
declare the amendment in force.

In the case of multiple policy changes which are considered on the
same ballot, a version must receive more than 50% of the votes cast to
be considered ratified. "Abstain" is a valid vote in this case,
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 11 11 Feb 2002

effectively being a vote for not changing the current policy as it
simply increases the number of votes required to ratify the proposed
change.

(This clause already allows for a vote of "responding" *C's, meaning
that a majority of /all/ *C's is not required. It is important to
distinguish between an abstained vote, and a non-response". A *C
opting not to vote, should not be counted as Abstain unless so
indicated). Bob Short

The document is open for amendments, thanks to Bob Short for his
input. If all of you SysOps will cooperate, I am sure the Policy can
be updated to better serve Fidonet.

Warm Regards,
Ol'wdb

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 12 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN
=================================================================

Japanese Sock Stock (Fish)

2 lg Cotton tube socks
3 lb Fish bones/heads/tails/fins
2 Sliced carrots
2 md Sliced onions
2 Sliced stalks celery
1 Bay leaf
2 Crushed garlic cloves
6 Peppercorns
1/2 ga Water (or more)

Ok, Socks! Yikes! What's she up to now? I aint eatin socks!

No dear. The socks are clean (never been worn) bought just for
holding delicate fishbones. I tuck as much as comfortably fits then
pin it closed and use it to make sure the bones dont get lost in the
food.

Now the stock above is a sample basic fish stock. How much water is
added depends on how strong you want it. I would start with 1/2
gallon. Many people also add a cup of white wine to this. Me, I add
shoyu (soy sauce) and chinese 5 spice or ginger. Frequently I add
seaweed shredded and then use this in place of my basic dashi.

From the kitchen of: xxcarol
From: Carol Shenkenberger
Date: 05 Sep 98

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 13 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
POET'S CORNER
=================================================================

Great Student Poem
Received by email

Poem written by a 16 yr. old who got an A+ from his teacher!

GREAT POEM !

Osama Bin Laden, your time is short,
We'd rather you die, than come to court.

Why are you hiding if it was in God's name?
You're just a punk with a turban; a pathetic shame.

I have a question, about your theory and laws;
"How come YOU never die for the cause?"

Is it because you're a coward who counts on others?
Well here in America, we stand by our brothers.

As is usual, you failed in your mission;
If you expected pure chaos, you can keep on wishin'

Americans are now focused and stronger than ever;
Your death has become our next endeavor.

What you tried to kill, doesn't live in our walls;
It's not in buildings or shopping malls.

If all of our structures came crashing down;
It would still be there, safe and sound.

Because pride and courage can't be destroyed;
Even if the towers leave a deep void.

We'll band together and fill the holes;
We'll bury our dead and bless their souls.

But then our energy will focus on you;
And you'll feel the wrath of the Red, White and Blue.

So slither and hide like a snake in the grass;
Because the Free World is coming to kick your ass!

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 14 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
=================================================================

Mine is bigger than yours!

The patron at a saloon in a sleepy mid-western town decided to do
something drastic about his slow business, so he tied his horse to the
bar and put up a sign in the street outside the saloon:

"$1000 to the person that can make my horse laugh"

Well, business picked up while many people tried to tickle the horse,
telling jokes and funny stories. However, the horse did not even
smile until one day a tramp comes along. He walks over to the horse,
leans to his ear and whispers something that makes the horse break out
in a roaring laughter (the way only horses can laugh).

The patron is really surprised, but pays the cash as he is a man of
honor. However, he didn't want this to happen again, so a new sign is
placed in the street:

"$1000 to the person that can make my horse cry"

This seemed fail-safe, as his horse had become accustomed to various
weird attempts and showed nothing but complete apathy.

Two weeks went, and the tramp comes into town again. He sees the
sign, walks over to the horse and drops his pants. Nobody in this town
had ever seen a horse so sad, weeping and crying buckets full of
tears. As the patron paid the tramp he asked how he did it. The
tramp replied, "the first time I told him that mine is bigger than
his, the second time I showed him!"

-----------------------------------------------------------------

BASTARD OPERATOR FROM HELL #4

Hook; Line; and Sinker... "Oh. I'm sorry."

"That's ok, I'm a tolerant person" I make a mental note to change
his password to something nasty in the next couple of days.

"Um, I need to know how to rename a file" he says.

Oh dear... Hang on, it's payday isn't it?! I'm in a good mood.

"Sure. You just go 'rm' and the filename"

"Thanks"

"No worries" (Now I'm in a REALLY good mood. I think I just might
write that script to make saving impossible on rogue at random times
like I've been think- ing about)

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 15 11 Feb 2002

The phone rings again.

"Hello?"

"Hi there" I say

"Is this the Operators?"

"Yes it is" I say, nice as pie

"Could you get my printouts out please. I need them urgently, and I
printed them over 5 minutes ago"

"Your username?" I ask

He gives it to me, and I write it down for later. "No worries at
all!" I say, and head to the printers.

There's a HUUUUUUUGE pile of printouts there, and sure enough, his is
at the top of the pile. I pick it up, split it out of the rest and
pour our ink- stained cleaning alcohol all over it, run it over a
couple of times with the loaded tape trolley then slam it in the tape
safe door some times as well.

Beautiful.

"Here's your printout" I say "Sorry about the delay, we've got a few
printer problems."

He takes a look and shits himself.

"Well, can I print it again?" he asks, worried

"Sure you can" I say "But no promises, the printer's a bit stuffed
today"

"Well can I print it on laser - is that working?"

"Yeah of course, but that'll cost you" I say, oozing compassion for
the geek

"It doesn't matter about the cost, THIS IS URGENT!"

I slide-on back into the printer room and put in the toner cartridge
we save for special occasions - the one that prints thick black lines
down the middle of the page and is all faint on one side. It took me
quite a while to make it like that too. The printout shoots through
and I bring it out immediately - I don't want to miss this!

"W-w-what's happened to my printout?" he geek-squeals at me. Lucky I
wrote that username down - I'm really starting to develop a taste for
torture.

"Well nothing. I mean sure, it's a little soiled, but that cartridge
has already done 47 thousand pages and been refilled 17 times. It's
quite good compared to some we get"
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 16 11 Feb 2002

Geek pays up and starts blubbing.

"Hey now. There's no reason to cry! Have you got a disk with your
work on it?"

He gives me a box of diskettes and I step inside and run them across
the bulk eraser. I come back out again.

"Sorry, I just remembered, our machine is on the fritz, you'll have
to take these to the other side of campus to the machine there, it'll
print them ok, and it had a brand-new toner yesterday."

"GREAT!"

"No worries. Oh, and hold the disks above your head the whole way
there, the earth's magnetic field is particularly strong today."

"Huh?"

"No arguements, just do it."

He wanders off, hand held high. Shit I hate myself sometimes.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

A bottle of wine
Warren Bonner, [email protected]

A woman is driving toward home in Northern Arizona when she sees a
Hopi Indian woman hitchhiking. Since the trip had been long and quiet,
she stops the car and givs the Indian woman a ride.

After a bit of small talk where the Indian woman was going and so
forth, the Indian woman notices a brown bag on the front seat.

"What's in the bag?", the Indian woman asks.

"It's a bottle of wine. I got it for my husband", says the saleswoman.

The Indian woman is silent for a while and then she says, "Good
trade."

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 17 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
=================================================================

Fidonet Software List
By Todd Cochrane
Type:

B=BBS D=Door M=Mailer T=Tosser C=Communication (terminal)
U=Utility P=Point Software I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

<+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
( Software Name ) |Type| ( Author/Contact )
<+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
|BBBS Home Page |B | [email protected] |
| | | www.bbbs.net/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|ELEBBS The Elevator |B | [email protected] |
|Software Production | | www.elebbs.com |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Hermes II Project |B | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.hermesii.org/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Maximus BBS Support |B | [email protected] |
|Page (Non Official) | | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|MBSE BBS |B | Michiel Broek |
| | | [email protected] |
| | | http://mbse.sourceforge.net |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Mystic BBS |B | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ |
| | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Nexus Bulletin |B | [email protected] |
|Board System | | http://www.nexusbbs.net/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Proboard, Searchlight, |BC | [email protected] |
|Telegrafix | | http://www.telegrafix.com |
|Communications | | 540-678-4050 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|RemoteAccess |B | Bruce Morse |
|Central | | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.rapro.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Spitfire BBS |B | [email protected] |
|Buffalo Creek Software | |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Synchronet BBS |BT | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.synchro.net |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Telegard BBS |B | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.telegard.net/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Wildcat Interactive |BTMI| [email protected] |
|Net Server | | http://www.santronics.com |
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 18 11 Feb 2002

|Plantinum Express | |(305)248-3204 |
| | | Santronics Inc. |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Bentstone Capabilities |D | [email protected] |
|Group | | http://www.srupc.com/mall |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Jibben Software |D | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|JNS Software Door Games|D | Rusty Johnson |
| | | [email protected] |
| | | 304-733-0113 |
| | | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Legend Of The Red |D | |
|Dragon Reborn | | |
|(L.O.R.D.) | | http://www.lordlegacy.org/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|PC Pursuits |D |[email protected] |
| | |(301)240-6653 |
| | |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|S and T Software |D |Mark Bappe |
| | |[email protected] |
| | |(770)788-6843 |
| | |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Shinning Star BBS Doors|D |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Sunrise Door Software |D |Al Lawerence |
| | |[email protected] |
| | |(404)256-9518 |
| | |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|The Brainex System |D |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Trade Wars Door Game |D |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ |
| | |1:299/110 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Vagabond Software |D |Bryan Turner |
| | |[email protected] |
| | |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ |
| | |1:124/7013 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|FMail Support |T |[email protected] |
| | |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ |
| | |2:280/1076 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Squish Tosser |T |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Argus RITLABS |M |[email protected] |
| | |373-2-246889 |
| | |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ |
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 19 11 Feb 2002

| | |2:469/84 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|FrontDoor |MTPC|Definite Solutions |
|FrontDoor APX | |[email protected] |
|Mailer/Point Software | |http://www.defsol.se/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|BeeMail Home Page |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net |
| | |Stephen Proffit |
| | |1:211/405 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ |
|Frontend Mailer | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|BinkD |MI |[email protected] |
| | |http://2f.ru/binkd/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Fidogate |UIT |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.fidogate.org/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Fidonet to Internet |IM |Bo Bendtsen |
|Mailer | |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|GiGo Software |UI |http://www.gigo.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Internet Rex |IM |[email protected] |
| | |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Tmail |IM |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm |
|(Russian /w English DL)| | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|TransX Multiboard |M |[email protected] |
|Communications Inc. | |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ |
| | |transx.html |
| | |1:2401/305 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|TransNet |I |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Watergate |I |[email protected] |
| | |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU |http://www.jetsys.de/ |
|JetStat and other Atari| | |
|Fidonet utilities | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|APoint (Author) |P |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
| | |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho) |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|CrossPoint |P |("Original" version) |
| | |http://www.crosspoint.de |
| | |http://www.apoint-mail.de |
| | |(OpenXP Projekt) |
| | |http://www.openxp.com (English) |
| | |http://www.openxp.de (German) |
| | |CrossPoint (XP2 Team) |
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 20 11 Feb 2002

| | |http://www.xp2.de |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|WinPoint95 |P |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|The OpenXP CrossPoint |P |http://www.happyarts.de/xp |
|Projekt | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Terminate Terminal |P |http://www.terminate.com |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|PPoint-FTS compatible |P |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm |
|E-Mail System | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
\====================================================================/

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 21 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
FIDONET BY INTERNET
=================================================================

. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
2/6/02

Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to Shannon
Talley, 1:275/311 or [email protected]. Please ensure your website
is operational before submitting. All websites will be checked
several times per month. If your website is down, or if it is a
commerical website advertising products or services, it will be
removed from the queue.

FidoNet
Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
http://www.fidotel.com/public/fidonews
Echolist: http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
http://www.fidotel.com
Parody: http://www.fidonet.ro/

Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.r10.org
Net 102 http://home.earthlink.net/~kayshapero/net102.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Region 11: http://www.vector11.com/region11/
Net 2410: http://www.vector11.com/net2410/
Region 13: http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/
Net 261: http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/
Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/
Net 267: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/
Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/

Region 14:
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 15: http://www.bobsplc.com/public/reg15
Region 17: http://www.region17.net
Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
Net 124: http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/flv/
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/

Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.was-ist-fido.de/ (German)
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 22 11 Feb 2002

Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.fidospain.org
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 | Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 | Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 | Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
103/5 | Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 | Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 | Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 | Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 | Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 | Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
134/11 | Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 | Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 23 11 Feb 2002

167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 | Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | groberts|nexusbbs.net |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
275/311 | Shannon Talley|FTP,BinkP,FTP,VMoT,QWK,NWS|T1|n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 | Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c
221/360 | Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 | Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 24 11 Feb 2002

280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 | Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | |
341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | |
343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | |
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 | Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | |
348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | |
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 25 11 Feb 2002

5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 | Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 | Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 | Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
* QWK = Quick Packets/Offline mailer "networking" capable
* NWS = Usenet Networking Capable
----------------------------------------------
Fidonet oriented news servers

news.fidotel.com
news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net

Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 26 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
SPECIAL INTEREST
=================================================================

Nodelist Stats

Input nodelist nodelist.039
size 1142.8kb
date 2002-02-08

The nodelist has 10281 nodes in it
and a total of 13256 non-comment entries

including 6 zones
65 regions
474 hosts
714 hubs
admin overhead 1259 ( 12.25 %)

and 911 private nodes
377 nodes down
428 nodes on hold
off line overhead 1716 ( 16.69 %)

Speed summary:

>9600 = 945 ( 9.19 %)
9600 = 8780 ( 85.40 %)
(HST = 184 or 2.10 %)
(CSP = 1 or 0.01 %)
(PEP = 13 or 0.15 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 2 or 0.02 %)
(V32 = 4935 or 56.21 %)
(V32B = 551 or 6.28 %)
(V42 = 4772 or 54.35 %)
(V42B = 587 or 6.69 %)
2400 = 108 ( 1.05 %)
1200 = 5 ( 0.05 %)
300 = 443 ( 4.31 %)

ISDN = 1118 ( 10.87 %)

----------------------------------------------------------
File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
----------------------------------------------------------
XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3813
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
--------------------------------------
XB Binkleyterm 2.0 9
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 27 11 Feb 2002

Dutchie 2.90b
--------------------------------------
XC Opus 1.1 10
--------------------------------------
XP Seadog 6
--------------------------------------
XR Opus 1.03 70
--------------------------------------
XW Fido >12M 402
Tabby
--------------------------------------
XX D'Bridge 1.30 4523
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
Tmail
--------------------------------------
None QMM 1448
--------------------------------------

CrashMail capable = 3445 ( 33.51 %)
MailOnly nodes = 5488 ( 53.38 %)
Listed-only nodes = 789 ( 7.67 %)
Other = 559 ( 5.44 %)

[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

-----------------------------------------------------------------

FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 28 11 Feb 2002

=================================================================
FIDONEWS INFORMATION
=================================================================

How to Submit an Article

If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here
are some guidelines, if you send it as an attached file; the preferred
method if you want reasonable control over how the published article
will appear in the Fidonews:

a) Plain ASCII text. If you could type it on your keyboard, it's
probably quite OK...

b) Put a title to the article. Put the title in two times. The first
time, on the first line, with an * before it. The second time, on
the second line, without the * and centered. This will help in the
format since the title with the * is removed and used in the index,
the second line will become the headline. On the third line, put
your name and FidoNet address, present or former. If former, you
may want to add some other address where you can be reached for
personal comments.

c) Deadline for article submission is Sunday, 01:00 UTC.

Help the Editor by following the above guides. Below are some subjects
and the file extension for the article as set in the configuration
file for the making of the Fidonews. The file name can be anything up
to 8 characters. Please help by putting the file extension of the
correct subject on the file name if known..

Ideas for Subject areas:

Subject File | Subject File
----------------------------------|----------------------------------
From the *C's *.css | Rebuttals to articles *.reb
Fidonet Regional News *.reg | Fidonet Net News *.net
Retractions *.rtx | General Fidonet Articles *.art
Guest Editorial *.gue | Fidonet Current Events *.cur
Fidonet Interviews *.inv | Fidonet Software Reviews *.rev
Fidonet Web Page Reviews *.web | Fidonet Notices *.not
Getting Fidonet Technical *.ftc | Question Of The Week *.que
Humor in a Fido Vein *.hfv | Comix in ASCII *.cmx
Fidonet's Int. Kitchen *.rec | Poet's Corner *.poe
Clean Humor & Jokes *.jok | Other Stuff *.oth
Fidonet Classified Ads *.ads | Corrections *.cor

If you don't know or are not sure, send the article anyway. Put a .TXT
on it and I'll try to figure out where it should be in the Fidonews.

If you follow these simple guidelines, there should be little problem
in getting your article published. If your submission is too far out
of specs for the Fidonews, it will be returned to you and/or a message
sent informing you of the problem. This DOES NOT mean that your
article is not accepted. It means that there is something in it that I
can not fix and I need your help on it.
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 29 11 Feb 2002

Send Articles via E-mail or Netmail, file attach or message to:

Bj�rn Felten
Fidonet 2:2/2
E-Mail [email protected]

Please include a message, telling me that you have sent an article.
That way I will know to look for it.

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability

+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
| |
| Editor: Bj�rn Felten, 2:2/2, [email protected] |
| Crash mail attached: Editor@2:2/2 |
| E-Mail attached: [email protected] |
| Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, [email protected] |
| Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, [email protected] |
| (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) |
| Columnist: Warren Bonner - Ol'WDB's Corner |
| Columnist: Jack Yates when in the Gawga mood |
| Columnist: Frank Vest - (reserved for future use) |
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +

+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
| |
| Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince |
| Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, |
| Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink, |
| Doug Meyers, Warren D. Bonner, Frank L. Vest |
| |
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +

"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission.

Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2002 by Bj�rn Felten, though authors
retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinions expressed
by the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication
and distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are
encouraged to send their articles in ASCII text to the Editor
at one of the addresses above.

The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file
area FIDONEWS, and is published as echomail in the echo FIDONEWS.
These sources are normally available through your Network
Coordinator. The current and past issues are also available from
the following sources:

+ -- -- -- -- -- -- - FIDONEWS AVAILABILITY - -- -- -- -- -- -- +
| |
| File request from 2:2/2: |
| current issue FIDONEWS |
FIDONEWS 19-06 Page 30 11 Feb 2002

| back issue, volume v, issue ii FNEWSvii.ZIP |
| ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ |
| http://www.fidonews.org |
| email subscription: [email protected] |
| (subject: help body: list) |
| ftp mail: [email protected] (subject: help) |
| |
+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +

-----------------------------------------------------------------