The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 02 14 Jan 2002

The F I D O N E W S Volume 19, Number 02 14 Jan 2002
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Copyright 2002 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. INSIDE ................................................... 2
The Fidonews at a Glance ................................. 2
3. EDITORIAL ................................................ 3
A tribute to Frank Vest .................................. 3
4. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 5
It's not a total "goodbye" ............................... 5
Catcalls from the Cheap Seats ............................ 6
5. EDITOR'S CORNER .......................................... 11
The umlaut disclaimer .................................... 11
6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 12
If Operating Systems Ran Airlines ........................ 12
7. FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ................................... 14
Collin County Station BBS ................................ 14
8. TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................. 15
Fidonet Software List .................................... 15
9. JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET .......................... 19
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 19
10. SPECIAL INTEREST ........................................ 25
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 25
11. FIDONEWS INFORMATION .................................... 27
How to Submit an Article ................................. 27
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 28
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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"The trouble with life is there's no background music."

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INSIDE
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The Fidonews at a Glance

What really happened to Frank and why did he quit? Find out all
about it in this weeks "Editorial".

In the "General Articles" section we have two submissions. One from
Editor Emeritus Frank Vest, giving a slightly different view upon his
resignation. And one from former FidoNet sysop Luke Kolin, giving some
thoughts about todays FidoNet.

Did editor's name in the banner look strange? Find out why in
"Editor's Corner".

An old classic was added to the "Clean Jokes..." section, just to
keep this issue from looking too anorexic.

Did you forget that the Snooze has a "Classified" section? Take a
look at how a pro makes use of it in this week's issue. :)

The "Nodelist Stats" in the "Special Interest" section has once
again changed, but just a minor change this time.

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EDITORIAL
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A tribute to Frank Vest
By Bj�rn Felten

The conception happened some day before April 23rd 2001. At first
the pregnancy went on almost unnoticed, but soon it became obvious
to the mother, that this was anything but a normal baby.

It soon started kicking and making noise, so that the mother
never got a quiet moment. But throughout this ordeal, the brave
mother never showed how tormented she was. Not even when the
morning sickness became more and more severe, did she even show
any sign of the usual mode swings. The only, out-of-ordinary, was
a sudden craving for pickled salmon...

But in the eighth month it became obvious, that she needed
help with the delivery of this baby. So she started looking
around for a midwife to help her out. When I was asked, I hesitated
for a long time. Not only did I know what an important baby this
was. If I made a mistake, it would haunt me for the rest of my
life. I also realized it would mean a lot of work.

However, out of concern with the mother as well as the baby, I
eventually accepted. And not a day too soon, it turned out. The
mother immediately went into hard labour, and then delivered a
baby pup, at least two weeks early.

The mother said she would never again get involved in the
activities that put her in this position. She is now recovering
at home, and the baby was sent away to a far-away country across
the Atlantic. A country where the polar bears are running freely
in the streets, where the women are tall, blond and promiscuous,
and the men spend most of their time committing suicide. Now, what
kind of a country is that to raise a kid in (unless you want to
raise the best ice hockey player in the world)?

Anyhow, the first time, loads of mothers milk was sent to the
baby, so it's been well fed. It's still far too tiny, as could be
expected from the premature birth, but with the tender care from
the relatives and friends, it probably will grow up to be a fine
kid. All the telegrams from proud relatives, sent to the distant
country, gave the baby the warmth it needs.

I heard that telegrams and flowers, congratulating the mother,
helped a lot to make her recover. The promise not to get involved
in the activities, that put her in this situation, is quite normal.
With some distance to the events, her sex^M^M^Mfido-life will
probably go back to (almost) normal again.

IOW, Mr. Mom Frank, I have your old column reserved for you,
whenever you feel up to start writing for the Snooze again. I
know for sure, I'm not the only one, that's hoping this will
happen sooner than later.
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It is with great pride I add the name Frank L. Vest to the list
of Editors Emeriti, where it looks really nice, together with all
those other, great names of our network.

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GENERAL ARTICLES
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It's not a total "goodbye"
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308.1

Last week, I announced that I was resigning the Editorship of the
Fidonews. It had been coming for a while and I had asked Bj�rn Felten
to take the position. He agreed and we had plans to change over around
the first of February. It didn't happen that way and my apologies to
Bj�rn for that.

I want... no... I need to tell everyone that it wasn't any one thing
that caused me to leave.

The Editorship of the Fidonews is a demanding position. Unless you
have been there, you really don't know how demanding it can be. Even
if every article that you receive (providing you receive any at all)
is perfect in format and other technical aspects, the Editor still
has to receive, test, proof read, compile and produce then hatch the
Fidonews each week. To do this all but requires that the Editor be
available and checking the different methods in place for receiving
articles on a daily basis. When one accepts the Editorship, one
suddenly finds that their world revolves around the Fidonews. Planning
a trip or vacation is many times made to allow for the final testing,
compiling and hatching of the Fidonews. Even if much is automated,
some things can not be.

One may say that much of the production of the Fidonews /could/ be
automated. Maybe so, but there is still the need, nay, the requirement
of human intervention. To simply set up programs to receive articles,
compile them and then hatch the finished product would work to some
degree, but not always. A file could come in that, while formatted
correctly and with no errors, is not meant to be an article. An
article can be received that meets all the technical qualifications,
but was not meant to be or shouldn't be an article. There will always
be the need for an Editor.

No, my friends, it was not any one thing or person. It was a build up
of things. I knew it was coming.

I'd like to thank some people in this article. I'm sure that I'll
miss some names. Consider yourself thanked any way. So, in mo
particular order:

Bj�rn Felten; for taking the Editorship... even though I didn't give
him as much time as we both would have liked. :-)

Warren Bonner and Steve Quarrella; Both have been my "shoulder to cry
on" many times. I believe that an Editor needs that as much, or more,
than anything else.

Michiel Van Der Vlist; We had our disagreements, but you handled them
with respect and dignity. I commend you for that.
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Carl Austin Bennett; You posted the Fidonews to the echo like
clockwork except for the times that I screwed up and didn't get the
Fidonews to you. :-) Thanks!

I'm sure that I've missed some. My thanks to you as well. <smile>

I'll still be around to some degree. I have some things that I still
want to do that have little to do with Fidonet politics. I'll write
the occasional article and, maybe, visit the echo from time to time.
Who can say what the future will bring. :)

Thanks to all,

Frank Vest

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Catcalls from the Cheap Seats
By Luke Kolin

I took the week off to develop a really good rant, this time. Hope
your ZC hasn't imploded yet.

I was in fine form last week. After a pleasant few days of becoming
drunk, belligerent and sarcastic by consuming wheat beer and trolling
fuckedcompany.com, I had warmed up nicely for a bitter and scathing
response to Andrea Santos' recent article on the Mail-Only trouble
makers that now comprise 55% of the nodelist. Unfortunately, an
artificial buzz is very difficult to maintain, and I started mellowing
significantly near the end. I'll save the missed article for a slow
week when I run low on material. That, or I'll send it to Doc Logger
for inspiration in exchange for whatever rhubarb wine he can smuggle
past the US Customs Service.

I'm sad to hear that Lesley-Dee lasted only a week as RC12, which is
roughly the same amount of time as her Internet e-mails take to reach
me, or signals from Voyager 1 take to reach Earth from the next
galaxy. It's a shame, but she should realize that Janis is performing
a fine-tuned political trick: punishment of one's political opponents.
It's not like Canada's best Prime Minister that government money could
buy is busy flattening Alberta grasslands in favour of hotels and
golf courses - he's busy too running their health care system into the
ground. Such a course of action is truly for the politically naive: I
discovered as RC and NC that letting my opponents post in the election
conference was worth more votes than any of my robot mailings. If some
of them didn't exist, I would have had to invent them myself.

Let me pay Frank Vest a legitimate compliment, for once. He's raised
some valid questions about the future of FidoNet, and he cares. He's
also, however, missed the telecommunications revolution of the past
five years.

One of the most difficult and tiresome aspects of running a BBS is
keeping the connectivity up; getting the modems to work, and allowing
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multiple lines and multiple users. ISPs have revolutionized this line
of work, and managed to take this work entirely out of the BBS
operators hands, at speeds that BBS operators can only dream of.
Hosting companies allow you to create free (or almost free) sites on
hardware they worry about keeping up. Why on Earth FidoNet would seek
to replace this fantastic infrastructure with something out of the
late 1980s is utterly beyond me. ISPs are turning into the common
access point for ALL networks. It's happened. Get over it.

I run a bulletin board, for flight simulation enthusiasts. I have
hundreds of users visiting it, and I can support multiple simultaneous
users at speeds up to 144k each. They can connect from anywhere in the
world for no additional cost, and the whole setup costs me around $90
per month. All of this is run through a little plastic box about six
by six inches in size that I plug into my main LAN switch. Needless to
say, I am *NOT* using a old-fashioned phone line (or multiple lines),
so why should FidoNet?

FidoNet was never about technology, it was always about content. Yet
the FidoNet of today has grown so wedded to its OBSOLETE access
technology that it is losing its content producers, and the network
itself is dying.

Users are not visiting FidoNet because the access method is
inefficient, slow, expensive and obsolete. Ever day, millions of
individuals use the Internet. Some have high-speed connections, and
not only are they used to such speed, they (like myself) no longer own
a modem and couldn't connect to a BBS even if they wanted to. Others
don't see the point in dialing in to a single line system at 28.8k,
when they can dial into a multi-line ISP at almost twice the speed,
never get a busy signal, and visit thousands of bulletin boards on the
web without having to start the process all over again. I don't even
want to get into the differences between the multilingual graphical
experience of the Web, compared to the ANSI graphics that last excited
people when Michael Dukakis did.

And every day, the group of people I describe gets larger and larger.

There will be some wise soul from the even cheaper seats who suggests
that telnet BBSing is the way to go. While the protocol allows us to
leverage certain advantages of IP like multiple connections and
eliminating distance from the equation, such a move is like moving
from 1988 to 1993, when the academics considered 'Internet Commerce'
to have as much of a future as the Black Vegan Lesbians for Strom
Thurmond Political Action Committee.

When I was a teenager with an interest in computers, FidoNet was
pretty cool. Lots of teenagers and college students with a computer
and a modem set up a BBS using free software like Binkley and Maximus
and begged their folks for an extra phone line. Today, those same kids
set up a Linux box on their cable modem, install
Apache/WarFTP/mySQL/PHP/UBB and build a web site that is light years
beyond anything that FidoNet can offer.

FidoNet has lost the young hobbyists. It's lost most of the developers
who were busy writing tools and utilities for Fido, save for the
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Eastern Europeans whose level of technology and Internet penetration
hasn't caught up to the West yet - which is why most of the new stuff
in Fido in the past five years has come from Zone 2. Zone 1 is
increasingly composed of the die-hards who've been around for the past
five to ten years, and are convinced that the Internet is nothing more
than completely unregulated spam-filled newsgroups. It's a similar
view to my mother, who believes that the Internet is nothing more than
a mechanism for men to view pornography and have online affairs when
they're not busy downloading plans for homemade biological weapons.

Frank, feeding the dog in the manner you suggest is like feeding your
dog some Dog Chow that's been sitting around in your basement growing
moldy and stale since 1988. If it doesn't kill the pooch, I don't want
to be around when you do the stooping and scooping.

Speaking of stooping and scooping, not knowing Janis I would be forced
to assume that FidoNet has finally achieved every geek's dream and
found a female 19-year-old sysadmin with some basic social skills and
an obsessive desire for order and network regulation. I cannot help
but be reminded of my teenage year (well, six months) as RC12 where
the geographical overlaps and failures to achieve economies of scale
in CRPs caused me acute heartburn and the desire to make changes. In
the intervening decade, I like to think I've learned a thing or two
about the anal-retentive desire for control, most importantly that
there was very little I could do short of causing myself grief and
being a jerk. Janis, I was 19 and didn't know any better when I did
what I did. What's your excuse?

I would be remiss if I didn't suggest to Janis that she should
probably go all the way and toast all of Region 12 from the nodelist
altogether. If the NCs/NECs in the Region manage to get their act
together and distribute the alternative nodelist to the vast majority
of sysops there, you and your little Quisling RC will have as much
authority as I will after I appoint myself the new ZC. At that point,
you have a totally separate bit of FidoNet which has branched off and
refused to recognize you. You either toast the whole bunch and see if
you get away with it, or you resign.

Lesley-Dee, you shouldn't be surprised that individuals say one thing
to get elected, and then do the complete opposite. I find it droll
that Canadians, of all people, would be the ones to get most upset
about it. I recall America having a President who (around the same
time FidoNet was cutting edge) promised no new taxes. He broke the
promise after being arm-twisted by Congress, and got turfed out for
his weak spine four years later. In Canada, you had a Deputy Prime
Minister who promised to repeal a sales tax to get elected.
Afterwards, she denied she ever made the claim, accused the voters of
being too dense to understand the suttle nuances in her promise, and
has been re-elected with increased majorities three times since. You
can't really fault Janis for trying to do the same thing - you folks
have a history of falling for that kind of nonsense. To paraphrase Kim
Campbell, elections are too fleeting to discuss such important matters
as the truth.

This whole Policy4 discussion reminds me of political discourse in my
native country - pretty much everyone (except those who get government
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money or patronage) wants the ruling party gone, but they can never
decide who to replace it with. The issue with P4 is that it was
designed by sysadmins, not people. It's a fantastic way to organize a
network along rational 1980s lines, but is utterly incapable of
addressing social issues and technological change. It boggles my mind
that over a decade after the first RC election in Region 12, with
elections entrenched all across FidoNet, you still have an enforced
policy that allows one co-ordinator to arbitrarily remove another for
any reason. In the age of the Internet and world-wide connectivity,
you have restrictions on which network you must have a node number in.

The twits that think this is still a good idea are the same ones that
would force me to have an e-mail address like
[email protected] or some other 'orderly'
mechanism, which I would probably need to change if I moved around the
corner. Of course, for themselves they insist on personalized vanity
license plates like UNIXGOD on their cars. They are the same ones that
ran the .ca domain registry for years with silly geography-based rules
on what kind of domain name you could get (in a network designed to
make geography irrelevant - hello!) and turned up their noses at the
'chaos' of the InterNIC model until they discovered that most
Canadians decided to get .com addresses for more visibility and less
bureaucratic nonsense. (Not to mention 12 hour turnaround instead of 2
weeks.) It's no coincidence that the Internet only took off when we
took the organization Nazis such as these out of the loop, sent them
back to their CS departments at gradual school and let real people do
what they wanted with it. The geeks are still moaning about how every
moron can get online these days, and how much better the Internet was
when there were only 700 people could connect to it and they could
discuss PDP-7 assembly language programming to their hearts' content.

If you really want to feed the dog, FidoNet needs to eliminate this
nonsense about appointed *Cs and organizational structure based around
geography and the phone system. Make them all elected. If your NC or
RC is an incompetent idiot, you're free to join whatever Net or Region
you want. If you want to connect via some Internet method only, great!
How often do you need connectivity to every single node in FidoNet? So
long as you can somehow get mail to them, what's the issue? How often
do you try and send crashmail to the single FidoNet node in Botswana?
99.99% of mail is routed to begin with. Build a new generation of
FidoNet software, based upon something free like PHP. Bundle it
together so that any hobbyist with access to a Linux or NT box or a
hosting service that provides PHP and SQL access (ie. any one worth
its salt) can set up a new Fido bulletin board. How hard could it be
to write a utility that converts messages stored in a SQL database
into that old PKT format for the legacy types?

That's assuming that grouping together in a content network on the Web
actually has its advantages. The beauty of the modern Internet over
Fido is it allows the users to come from anywhere to a single point
for content, instead of distributing the content to the users. If the
Web is the content network, as well as the transport mechanism, then
FidoNet's situation is terminal and feeding the dog won't do a darn
thing. You might as well keep the pooch warm and comfortable, and send
your old nodelists to the Smithsonian.

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EDITOR'S CORNER
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The umlaut disclaimer

When first it was obvious, that this editor had a strange character
in his name, there were suggestions that I should tell those of you,
that don't see it properly, what that third character of my first
name, really should look like.

Well, in FidoNet, where the FidoNews is distributed, the character
set assumed is IBM PC-8, if nothing else is declared. So if you don't
get that umlauted 'o' properly, you may want to change the char-set of
your reader, because there'll probably be more of those, strange
characters in here in the future.

But as a one-time service, I'll let you know what my name should
look like if properly displayed.

HTML: Björn Felten
ISO Latin: Bj�rn Felten
Mac OS: Bj�rn Felten
AltNum: Bj<Alt-1-4-8>rn Felten

Thanks to Aleksej R. Serdyukov @ 2:5020/1973.20
and Raymond Rosch @ 3:713/910

...for their kind contributions on this matter.

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CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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If Operating Systems Ran Airlines

UNIX Airways

Everyone brings one piece of the plane along when they come to the
airport. They all go out on the runway and put the plane together
piece by piece, arguing non-stop about what kind of plane they are
supposed to be building.

Air DOS

Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides, then they jump on and
let the plane coast until it hits the ground again. Then they push
again, jump on again, and so on...

Mac Airlines

All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents look
neat and act exactly the same. Every time you ask questions about
details, you are gently but firmly told that you don't need to know,
that you really don't want to know, and that everything will be done
for you without your ever having to know, so just shut the f... up.

Windows Air

The terminal is pretty and colorful, with friendly stewards, easy
baggage check and boarding, and a smooth take-off. After about 10
minutes in the air, the plane explodes with no warning whatsoever.

Windows NT Air

Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses much bigger planes, and
takes out all the other aircrafts within a 40-mile radius when it
explodes.

Linux Air

Disgruntled employees of all the other OS airlines decide to start
their own airline. They build the planes, ticket counters, and pave
the runways themselves. They charge a small fee to cover the cost of
printing the ticket, but you can also download and print the ticket
yourself. When you board the plane, you are given a seat, four
bolts, a wrench and a copy of the seat-HOWTO.html. You take the seat
to a location of your choice and bolt it into the deck, per the
instructions. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very
comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on time without a single
problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful. You try to tell customers
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of the other airlines about the great trip, but all they can say is,
"Good grief, you had to do what with the seat...?"

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FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS
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Collin County Station BBS
By Frank Vest
1:124/6308

Collin County Station BBS
McKinney, Texas
would like to invite you to visit.

If you are in the Dallas Metro or McKinney, Texas area, you can dial
into the BBS at 972-562-8064.

We also have limited telnet access upon request.
e-mail; puppy6308 at sbcglobal.net
and we will be happy to tell you about the telnet access

Currently running Inter-BBS "Word War". Soon to add "Triple Yahtzee"

100+ Fidonet Echos for your reading

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including L.O.R.D. and BRE

All 28 JNS Doors, registered

We try to be a User Friendly BBS

Drop by a visit us. :-)

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TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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Fidonet Software List
By Todd Cochrane
Type:

B=BBS D=Door M=Mailer T=Tosser C=Communication (terminal)
U=Utility P=Point Software I=Internet (telnet, BinkP...)

<+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=+=-=-+-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
( Software Name ) |Type| ( Author/Contact )
<+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=|=-=-|-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+>
|BBBS Home Page |B | [email protected] |
| | | www.bbbs.net/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|ELEBBS The Elevator |B | [email protected] |
|Software Production | | www.elebbs.com |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Hermes II Project |B | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.hermesii.org/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Maximus BBS Support |B | [email protected] |
|Page (Non Official) | | http://www.vector11.com/maximus/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|MBSE BBS |B | Michiel Broek |
| | | [email protected] |
| | | http://mbse.sourceforge.net |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Mystic BBS |B | http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/ |
| | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Nexus Bulletin |B | [email protected] |
|Board System | | http://www.nexusbbs.net/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Proboard, Searchlight, |BC | [email protected] |
|Telegrafix | | http://www.telegrafix.com |
|Communications | | 540-678-4050 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|RemoteAccess |B | Bruce Morse |
|Central | | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.rapro.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Spitfire BBS |B | [email protected] |
|Buffalo Creek Software | |http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Synchronet BBS |BT | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.synchro.net |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Telegard BBS |B | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.telegard.net/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Wildcat Interactive |BTMI| [email protected] |
|Net Server | | http://www.santronics.com |
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|Plantinum Express | |(305)248-3204 |
| | | Santronics Inc. |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Bentstone Capabilities |D | [email protected] |
|Group | | http://www.srupc.com/mall |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Jibben Software |D | [email protected] |
| | | http://www.jibbensoftware.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|JNS Software Door Games|D | Rusty Johnson |
| | | [email protected] |
| | | 304-733-0113 |
| | | http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Legend Of The Red |D | |
|Dragon Reborn | | |
|(L.O.R.D.) | | http://www.lordlegacy.org/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|PC Pursuits |D |[email protected] |
| | |(301)240-6653 |
| | |http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|S and T Software |D |Mark Bappe |
| | |[email protected] |
| | |(770)788-6843 |
| | |http://bozax.iainc.net/public/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Shinning Star BBS Doors|D |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Sunrise Door Software |D |Al Lawerence |
| | |[email protected] |
| | |(404)256-9518 |
| | |http://www.sunrisedoors.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|The Brainex System |D |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Trade Wars Door Game |D |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/ |
| | |1:299/110 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Vagabond Software |D |Bryan Turner |
| | |[email protected] |
| | |http://vagabond.virtualave.net/ |
| | |1:124/7013 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|FMail Support |T |[email protected] |
| | |http://fmail.nl.eu.org/ |
| | |2:280/1076 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Squish Tosser |T |http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Argus RITLABS |M |[email protected] |
| | |373-2-246889 |
| | |http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/ |
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| | |2:469/84 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|FrontDoor |MTPC|Definite Solutions |
|FrontDoor APX | |[email protected] |
|Mailer/Point Software | |http://www.defsol.se/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|BeeMail Home Page |M |http://beemail.gexonline.net |
| | |Stephen Proffit |
| | |1:211/405 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|BinkleyTerm XE |M |http://btxe.sourceforge.net/ |
|Frontend Mailer | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|BinkD |MI |[email protected] |
| | |http://2f.ru/binkd/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Fidogate |UIT |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.fidogate.org/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Fidonet to Internet |IM |Bo Bendtsen |
|Mailer | |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|GiGo Software |UI |http://www.gigo.com/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Internet Rex |IM |[email protected] |
| | |http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Tmail |IM |http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm |
|(Russian /w English DL)| | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|TransX Multiboard |M |[email protected] |
|Communications Inc. | |http://www.multiboard.com/software/ |
| | |transx.html |
| | |1:2401/305 |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|TransNet |I |[email protected] |
| | |http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Watergate |I |[email protected] |
| | |http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/ |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|JetSys-Home of JetMail |TU |http://www.jetsys.de/ |
|JetStat and other Atari| | |
|Fidonet utilities | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|APoint (Author) |P |http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm|
| | |http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Autho) |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|CrossPoint |P |("Original" version) |
| | |http://www.crosspoint.de |
| | |http://www.apoint-mail.de |
| | |(OpenXP Projekt) |
| | |http://www.openxp.com (English) |
| | |http://www.openxp.de (German) |
| | |CrossPoint (XP2 Team) |
FIDONEWS 19-02 Page 18 14 Jan 2002

| | |http://www.xp2.de |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|WinPoint95 |P |http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|The OpenXP CrossPoint |P |http://www.happyarts.de/xp |
|Projekt | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|Terminate Terminal |P |http://www.terminate.com |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
|PPoint-FTS compatible |P |http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm |
|E-Mail System | | |
|-----------------------|----|---------------------------------------|
\====================================================================/

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http://pages.sbcglobal.net/flv/
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http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
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FIDONEWS 19-02 Page 21 14 Jan 2002

also receive routed notice of this feature.

v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ADSL | n/c
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
FIDONEWS 19-02 Page 22 14 Jan 2002

2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | |
341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | |
343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | |
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | |
348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | |
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
FIDONEWS 19-02 Page 23 14 Jan 2002

461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
----------------------------------------------
Fidonet oriented news servers
FIDONEWS 19-02 Page 24 14 Jan 2002

news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net

Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)

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=================================================================
SPECIAL INTEREST
=================================================================

Nodelist Stats

Input nodelist nodelist.011
size 1179.1kb
date 2002-01-11

The nodelist has 10467 nodes in it
and a total of 13710 non-comment entries
including 6 zones
65 regions
484 hosts
717 hubs
904 private nodes
371 nodes down
696 nodes on hold.

Admin overhead is 1272 ( 12.15 %)

Speed summary:

>9600 = 963 ( 9.20 %)
9600 = 8927 ( 85.29 %)
(HST = 183 or 2.05 %)
(CSP = 1 or 0.01 %)
(PEP = 14 or 0.16 %)
(MAX = 0 or 0.00 %)
(HAY = 2 or 0.02 %)
(V32 = 5027 or 56.31 %)
(V32B = 573 or 6.42 %)
(V42 = 4830 or 54.11 %)
(V42B = 613 or 6.87 %)
2400 = 111 ( 1.06 %)
1200 = 6 ( 0.06 %)
300 = 460 ( 4.39 %)

----------------------------------------------------------
File Req Flag Applicable software Number of systems
----------------------------------------------------------
XA Frontdoor <1.99b 3922
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
Xenia
--------------------------------------
XB Binkleyterm 2.0 9
Dutchie 2.90b
--------------------------------------
XC Opus 1.1 11
--------------------------------------
FIDONEWS 19-02 Page 26 14 Jan 2002

XP Seadog 7
--------------------------------------
XR Opus 1.03 71
--------------------------------------
XW Fido >12M 403
Tabby
--------------------------------------
XX D'Bridge 1.30 4549
Frontdoor 1.99b
Intermail 2.01
Tmail
--------------------------------------
None QMM 1495
--------------------------------------

CrashMail capable = 3584 ( 34.24 %)
MailOnly nodes = 5558 ( 53.10 %)
Listed-only nodes = 808 ( 7.72 %)
Other = 517 ( 4.94 %)

[Report produced by NETSTATS - A PD pgm available from 1:106/100]
[ Revised by B Felten, 2:203/208]

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