The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 47 19 Nov 2001

The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 47 19 Nov 2001
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Copyright 2001 by Fidonews Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ..................................... 1
2. [ TOP STORIES ] .......................................... 2
The Fidonews at a glance ................................. 2
3. [ FROM THE *CS ] ......................................... 3
Zone 1 Internet only Nodes : part 1 ...................... 3
Let's not bring back geo-restrictive leash laws .......... 4
4. [ EDITORIAL ] ............................................ 8
Poll analysis from the Editor's point of view ............ 8
5. [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ...................... 10
OL'WDB's Column .......................................... 10
6. [ FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN ] ...................... 11
Exclusively for Lesley-Dee Dylan from Foxy Ferguson ...... 11
7. [ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ] .................................. 12
Comments made in the year 1957: .......................... 12
8. [ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ] ............................... 14
-=-=- Come one -=-=- Come All -=-= ....................... 14
9. [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ............. 15
Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* .......................... 15
10. [ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ] ..................... 21
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 21
11. [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] .................................... 27
N.Y. Grand Lodge Public Relations ........................ 27
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 28
12. [ FIDONEWS INFORMATION ] ................................ 30
How to Submit an Article ................................. 30
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 31
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[ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ]
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"Wrinkled Was Not One of the Things I Wanted to Be When I Grew Up"

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[ TOP STORIES ]
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The Fidonews at a glance

In the "From the *Cs" section, we have two articles. One gives some
guidelines for listing Internet Only Nodes in Zone 1. The other is
from from Carl Austin Bennett titled "Let's not bring back
geo-restrictive leash laws!" which deals with the aforementioned
guidelines for listing Internet Only Nodes.

In the Ads section, Shannon Talley invites all to join the L.O.R.D.
Tournament that his BBS is having.

This week's Editorial is based again on the poll taken a couple of
weeks ago.

Warren Bonner's Column this week seems to express his beliefs and
feelings on Fidonet.

This week's recipe was sent by Foxy Ferguson to Lesley-Dee Dylan.
Mace?? Hmm. Oh, yeah, mace *is* a spice. :-)

In the "Special Interests" area we have a notice from Warren Bonner
about a upcoming TV show about the Masons Organization.

Please write some Fidonet articles and send them. The Fidonews needs
you.

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[ FROM THE *CS ]
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Zone 1 Internet only Nodes : part 1
by Janis Kracht, Z1C

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This is one of a series of articles which define guidelines and
proceedures for several aspects of nodelisting internet only nodes.
The first of these deals with the geographic listing of new internet
only nodes.

Zone 1 members may wish to join the discussion of these in the Z1C
echo.
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There has been some discussion in various echos about how or where
nodes may be listed if an existing fidonet node, NC or RC receives an
application from a prospective new member. None of this is really
any different than what has been done in the past, but for the sake
of new sysops and to answer some questions on this, an outline of the
proceedure may be helpful.

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I. Guidelines for nodelisting new ION nodes
1: ION Applicants who contact you who live in another region or net.
2-4: What to do if you get no response from the applicant's NC or RC.
II: ION nodes vs Dialup nodes and geographic placement.
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I. Guidelines for nodelisting new ION nodes

1 - ION Applicants who contact you who live in another region or net:
If an applicant who doesn't live in your region contacts you
regarding joining Fidonet, help him all you like with his setup,
but direct him to the NC where he lives to get a node number. If
the net doesn't exist anymore in that geographic area and you
have a question regarding what net this applicant would belong
to, you can contact the RC of the applicant's Region.

2 - What to do if you get no response from the applicant's NC or RC:
If you get no response within a few days from the NC you've
contacted, contact the RC of the geographically correct area
where the applicant lives.

3 - If you have had no response from the RC of his region within a
week, contact the Z1C. NCs or RCs can contact me, or have the
applicant contact me via Netmail, or e-mail,
([email protected]), or my dialup line (502-245-6778), or my
telnet bbs (filegate.net) at 1:2320/38.

4 - Geographic exemptions are granted on a case by case basis as they
always have been. Those desiring to be placed in a net or region
other than their geographic net or region should work out details
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with the NC or RC of the net or region where the applicant lives,
and the non-geographic NC or RC.

II - ION nodes vs Dialup nodes and geographic placement:

As many of you know, those in some other Zones do not allow
Internet-only systems to be listed in the nodelist, but list them
rather as points; these points neither vote or are part of
zone/regional/net elections. Here in Zone 1, however, internet
only nodes are listed in nodelist, since the method of connection
which a sysop uses does not make the node less reachable.

Dialup nodes using crash mail are not much different than Binkp
nodes using crash-mail. The vehicle of delivery does not change
the way nodelisted internet nodes connect to other nodelisted
internet nodes, and the way that dialup nodelisted system
communicate with these internet nodes in our common echomail
pool, and routed netmail scheme.

Likewise, the use of regional organization of networks and
nodelisted sysops has not changed simply because a node connects
via binkd, binkp, telnet or ftp. The listing of new members
should be consistent with existing geographic nets and regions
where possible.

Please note that where a node is nodelisted has no bearing on
where he or she picks up Backbone echomail traffic. A node may
connect anywhere desired to do so.

Janis Kracht
Z1C

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Let's not bring back geo-restrictive leash laws!
Carl Austin Bennett 1:249/116

Many dog-years ago in the faraway land of Lancaster, a poor abused
Fido was on a short leash being pelted with lumps of Kohl, its netmail
dog-eared and spied upon and its howling stifled. From the north came
an offer of a better home for this poor Fido, and net 2404 came into
being as a humane refuge followed by word from on high that that short
geographic leash on Fido nodes in this zone was a thing of the past as
the time had come to "pre-grant all geographic exemptions."

Years passed and many of Fido's puppy friends have moved on, lured
away by the sights and sounds of the big, colourful Internet.

The kennel seemed almost silent, except for one strange little puppy
from Oshawa who was busy working like a dog while all the other Fidos
seemed more interested in letting sleeping dogs lie.

Fido229 missed all those other puppies dearly but he had a plan.

With a small barrel of Fido packets and info around his neck and an
eager wag of the tail, he was going to the four corners of the
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Internet to sniff out the friends that had run away in order to bring
them back into the Fido fold. Instead of the webbed footprints of
Internet representing an enemy, they became a way for Fido to bark
farther and louder and a means of fulfilling this puppy's dream.

While this didn't bring the kennel back to what it once was, it helped
to slow the inevitable decline as dogs came excitedly running from
many faraway Internet places to see what the Fido229 puppy had fetched
for them.

As a host is a host from coast to coast in Internet land, the short
leash of geographic restrictions and the oddball
more-expensive-to-call-US-instate limits from the dialup days no
longer made sense. As long as a pair of Fidos were barking in the same
language (sadly not a given in the tower of Babel of diverse
incompatible Fido-over-Internet standards) distance now meant nothing.
Every puppy was now free to choose his own home, often based on
technical considerations which had nothing to do with geography.

Yes, doggies in the north had tried various ways of gathering into
packs. One pack would try to gather entirely geographically just
because they all lived near the TransX factory, only to find that the
dog who only barked over dial-up 'phones couldn't make himself heard
to the dog who only knew e-mail attach. Another pack would be based on
a common ability to fetch mail over Internet, but geographically would
be scattered far and wide.

Ultimately, though, the old ways were dead. The dogs had adapted to
survive. Those who thought one couldn't teach an old dog new tricks
were first to go.

In some places, there weren't enough Fidos left to build a pack based
on a solely geographical basis. In others, kennel co-ordinators had
simply wandered away without saying a word or had become so absent and
unresponsive that it was difficult or impossible to join the local
pack even if one could still be sniffed out under all of the rubble.

Inevitably, the Fido229 pack grew even while many others were simply
fading away. Fido finally had a guard dog to protect it from the big
bad Internet.

This should be great news and all the other regions of all the other
Fidos should be working like dogs to do what Fido229 has done, get
onto the Internet, get the IP tools into the paws of all their puppy
friends, build a pack of happy Internet-aware Fidos like the one in
the north. If there were more packs of Fidos like Fido229's, they
could all go out onto the Internet and sniff out prospective new
nodes, racing one against the other to put an end to the uncontrolled
shrinkage in zone one's Fido ranks.

This would have been the best way to ensure a future for Fido in this
zone.

Unfortunately, instead of doing anything so constructive, the regional
canines in the southeast started howling and bitching loudly, all but
barking at the moon, while attempting to mark territory by burying it
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under large and unappetising quantities of peefour. There should be a
policy to inflict a tight leash and strangle these Internet-based
fidos from Oshawa, they barked, all the while knowing full well that
the dozen-year-long string of failed attempts at creating policies far
predated anything resembling commercial ISPs. There should be a double
standard by which the southeastern fidos are free to lure a whole
Collingwood, Ontario pack away while arbitrary obstacles are placed in
the path of the growing Fido229 group. Better yet, this double
standard should be created in some restricted echo far from the prying
eyes of the 229 dogs, in the finest dog-eat-dog "give a dog a name and
hang him" traditions. And who better to do the dirty work than the
Z1dogCatcher herself?

All the while, they would loudly bark "Fido229 is not the only Fido
that is capable of listing new nodes" but do absolutely nothing to
sniff out new nodes or to get fido-via-Internet tools into the paws of
prospective fidos.

And what of the Z1dogCatcher? Her reaction is the clearest sign yet
that this entire zone has gone to the dogs. Instead of making any
attempt to encourage the other regions to follow in Fido229's
pawprints and make an extra effort to lend a helping paw to
prospective Internet-based nodes, she came back with yet another
attempt at a malicious restrictive policy to mark territory.

Instead of actually making an effort to sniff out new nodes, the lazy
dogs that have taken over much of Fido zone one would be free to do
nothing while the Fido229 puppy works like a dog to find new puppies,
then use geographical restrictions (yes, the ones that were scrapped
years ago after even Mr. Satti "noted" [tm] that the time to pre-grant
all geographic exemptions had come) to prevent those new nodes from
easily obtaining 1:229 addresses if they ask for them. Despite what
she'd have us believe, this is *not* merely the status quo.

So the proposal was to use a short geographic leash force the new
puppy to go to the local kennel first (even if they ask to be listed
elsewhere), then wait at least a week for a reply from an absent or
missing kennel co-ordinator before even going elsewhere in-region. The
first response to this obstacle? A reply from one of the local kennel
co-ordinators in the southeast explaining how he likes to be able to
neglect his Fido puppies and abandon them for weeks on end while
travelling on business! Then suddenly it's OK to make it two weeks,
make it many weeks, make it so many weeks that the once-eager puppy
gives up and wanders away, back to the big bad Internet. Meanwhile, no
attempt to report neglectful or absent kennel co-ordinators to the
SPCA or anyone else. This isn't about Fido's best interests; this is
about the preservation of political power over a dwindling pack of
dogs.

Fido can't afford this anymore.

If the effort that has been put into starting political dog-fights by
running through admin echos barking "the Z1 bone doesn't exist" and
"the Z1 bone shouldn't exist, so I'm going to dig a hole and bury it"
or "I appoint myself moderator of all the file bones and I'm going to
tell you which route list to use; look at me, I'm so important, vote
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me for dogcatcher!..." were instead channeled into actually sniffing
out new nodes and putting Internet-aware Fido tools into eager paws,
this zone would not be declining so quickly. Sadly, while the public
echos are all but empty now, the admin areas are filled with mail from
one or another regional or zone-level dog with nothing better to do
than bark at everyone while loudly insisting on being the leader of
the pack. No wonder many leave.

Using prospective or new nodes as pawns in this senseless dogfight
right now is the worst thing that Fido can do if he wants to remain an
active dog.

Interfere with the efforts of those attempting to bring new puppies
into the Fidonet kennel and one only hastens the arrival of the day
where Fido pawprints are gone from all of zone one forever.

My response to all of this?

I don't care if you're the Z1dogCatcher and I don't care if you have
enough empty kennels to fill an entire region. If you want to
interfere with the efforts of the Fido229 puppy or any others like it
to find new nodes anywhere out to the four corners of the Internet,
you do *not* have my assistance.

I will ignore your barking. The time has come to bury these attitudes,
stop marking territory and work like a dog to sniff out new nodes
wherever they can be found. If you're not willing to be the solution,
at least find the foresight not to make yourselves part of the
problem!

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[ EDITORIAL ]
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Poll analysis from the Editor's point of view
By Frank Vest

I find it strangely warped that the file name for this editorial
translated to "pollanal.ed". :-)

Dear Reader,

Two weeks ago, this Editor published the poll; "What do you want in
the Fidonews?" Last week, the results of that poll was published. This
week, I'm going to attempt to figure out what the results mean from my
point of view. You, Dear Reader, are welcome to submit your own
analysis.

Of the replies received, it appears that what the readers want in the
Fidonews is more input from the *C structure of Fidonet. Followed by
Regional, Net, Technical and other stories related to Fidonet. The
least voted for were the jokes, comix, recipes and such.

I get the idea.

I hope you, Dear Reader, also get the idea. The idea that what you
want is directly related to what you give.

Many of the responses to the Poll were telling me to keep all the
sections. Maybe this means that they liked all the articles that come
in. Maybe it means that they just don't care, but have some drive to
answer polls.

I think it means that they realize that all sections have some value.

In reality, Dear Reader, I believe that way too. The real "power" in
this is what you do about it. You can run away saying that you don't
like this or that and will never read the Fidonews again. Or, you can
make the Fidonews into something. You have the power.

I've been told that the Fidonews Editor has power. Maybe this is
true. I think the real power is in the people of Fidonet. Sure, I have
the power to accept or refuse articles. You have the power to submit
or not submit articles. Which is stronger?? The Editor can only refuse
articles if s/he receives articles.

In reality, this is true of any newsletter, newspaper, magazine or
other publication. The Fidonews, though, is different in one key
factor. The Fidonews doesn't have a group of paid reporters that can
be sent to "find a story". There is no staff to be told to write a
story about Fidonet only. The people that submit articles are just
like you... hobbyists that enjoy the hobby and write because they
enjoy the hobby. They write articles about what interests them. Some
of the articles are about Fidonet. Some are not. The stories about
Fidonet, or any subject, must come from you.

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In other hobby newsletters you will find articles about their hobby.
Why? Is it because a staff is paid to write articles about that hobby?
Maybe, but I put to you that if this were the case, then there would
soon be a lack of articles. Think about it. All newsletter, and other
publications for that matter, must rely to some degree on "roving
reporters" to write and submit articles for publication. Otherwise,
how many articles about a certain hobby can one write before one runs
out of ideas? I'll tell you that I have hit that point as Editor of
the Fidonews more than once in my short time here. No, all newsletters
and publications must have some outside sources. The Fidonews just
happens to rely totally on those outside sources.

By now, you are probably thinking that this Editor has forgotten all
about analyzing the poll and is off in another world. Not true. I
still have that in mind.

The least desired sections in the Fidonews are the Comix, Humor/jokes
and Recipes. I'm sure this is because they are not Fidonet related,
right? So, what to do about that? Let's make them relate to Fidonet.
Many hobbies have funny stories, jokes, comics and such that are about
the hobby. Let's hear some about Fidonet. Many are the cultures,
people, likes and dislikes of Fidonet. That is evident in the many
echos that we have. Search the Fidonet echos and you'll probably find
something of interest to you. Search yourself and you just might find
an article hidden in you. :)

To end this, I'm offering some challenges.

To the *C structure. I put forth this challenge. Give us some
articles. What is happening in the Zone? What's going on in your
Region? How about your Net?

To others in Fidonet. I challenge you to write articles about
Fidonet. Be they technical, humorous, poetry, general interest or
whatever.

_YOU_ have the power.

Kind regards,

Frank Vest, Editor - Fidonews

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[ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ]
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OL'WDB's Column
[email protected]

Today as I read through the tangled mess of opinions in various echoes
I became more and more aware that there is total chaos in certain
posting mentalities' comprehension processes. It has long been my own
way of life to live and let live, accept anyone as a warm human being,
and promote a strong tie of good will. True, with some I have failed,
and with others have resolved any differences. In fact I am at the
moment in harmony with everyone I know in the world; except those I
can count on one hand, who seemingly cannot agree with anyone, about
anything, even each other most of the time.

After reading many times some wise crack, or if you will, "Smart Alex"
negative and usually demeaning reply or remark to our *C's and our
Editor, denying any "authority", "chain of command", or that
"hierarchy" exists in our elected (or appointed), Fidonet officers, I
was appalled. It is hard to understand how a Zone or Region can hold
an election and it be totally denied those mentalities' minds.

Reading that Policy4 is without spirit and in general is meaningless,
is hard for me to comprehend the line of reason. I had to read and
agree to abide by those guide-lines in order to be accepted into my
net, and be given a Fidonet address. True some things have changed
and our officers have made allowances for changes in technology. This
doesn't require us to junk the entire document.

Those that scream you can't change the Policy unless every Zone on
earth approves the changes are wrong in my opinion. Common sense tells
us that the Zones are varied and vastly different in culture. How one
Zone reasons with the translated words of Policy, and the technology
of that area, just may not be, and most likely isn't, identical to
other Zonal interpretations. That is why it is a GUIDELINE and not
cut in stone.

The proclaimed freedom by those nay-sayers from their perceived "evil
Fidonet officers, and Policy4's guidelines", that we are expected to
go by in our use of Fidonet, leaves me with one word to those
mentalities... If you can't comply with the guidelines, the
instructions of your NC, RC, ZC or IC... GOODBYE!

Ol'wdb

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[ FIDONET'S INTERNATIONAL KITCHEN ]
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Exclusively for Lesley-Dee Dylan
...so she can't say I never did her a favor...
from Foxy Ferguson

Quick 'n' Easy PFEFFERNUESSE

2/3 cup sugar 1/2 t. cinnamon
1/3 cup lite corn syrup 1/4 t. cardamon
1/2 cup margarine 1/2 t. mace (or nutmeg)
3 eggs 1/4 t. ground cloves
2 cups flour 1/4 t. anise extract
1 1/2 t. baking powder 1/2 t. salt
1/2 t. vanilla 1/4 t. pepper

Cream together sugar, syrup and margarine. Add eggs, vanilla,
anise, and dry spices: beat well. Add baking powder and flour
and stir until well-mixed. Chill. Drop half-teaspoonsful onto
lightly greased cookie sheet. Bake 10-12 minutes in 375 degree
oven until lightly browned. Let cool and store in tightly lidded
container. Makes about 70 soft peppernuts but they do not keep
forever as regular peppernuts do.

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[ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ]
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Comments made in the year 1957:

"I'll tell you one thing, if things keep going the way they are, it's
going to be impossible to buy a week's groceries for $20."

"Have you seen the new cars coming out next year? It won't be long
before $5000 will only buy a used one."

"If cigarettes keep going up in price, I'm going to quit. A quarter a
pack is ridiculous."

"Did you hear the post office is thinking about charging a dime just
to mail a letter?"

"If they raise the minimum wage to $1, nobody will be able to hire
outside help at the store."

"When I first started driving, who would have thought gas would
someday cost 29 cents a gallon. Guess we'd be better off leaving the
car in the garage."

"Kids today are impossible. Those duck tail hair cuts make it
impossible to stay groomed. Next thing you know, boys will be wearing
their hair as long as the girls."

"I'm afraid to send my kids to the movies any more. Ever since they
let Clark Gable get by with saying 'damn' in 'Gone With The Wind,' it
seems every new movie has either 'hell' or 'damn' in it."

"I read the other day where some scientist thinks it's possible to put
a man on the moon by the end of the of the century. They even have
some fellows they call astronauts preparing for it down in Texas."

"Did you see where some baseball player just signed a contract for
$75,000 a year just to play ball? It wouldn't surprise me if someday
they'll be making more than the president."

"I never thought I'd see the day all our kitchen appliances would be
electric. They are even making electric typewriters now."

"It's too bad things are so tough nowadays. I see where a few married
women are having to work to make ends meet."

"It won't be long before young couples are going to have to hire
someone to watch their kids so they can both work."

"I'm just afraid the Volkswagen car is going to open the door to a
whole lot of foreign business."

"Thank goodness I won't live to see the day when the Government takes
half our income in taxes. I sometimes wonder if we are electing the
best people to congress."
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"The drive-in restaurant is convenient in nice weather, but I
seriously doubt they will ever catch on."

"There is no sense going to L.A. or San Francisco anymore for a
weekend. It costs nearly $15 a night to stay in a hotel."

"No one can afford to be sick any more; $35 a day in the hospital is
too rich for my blood." "If they think I'll pay 50 cents for a hair
cut, forget it."

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[ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ]
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-=-=- Come one -=-=- Come All -=-=
By, Shannon Talley
Sysop of FidoTel BBS 1:275/311
<[email protected]>

-=-=- Come one -=-=- Come All -=-= To the Thieves -=-=- To the
warriors -=-=- To the wizards who dabble in magic! -=-= A call to arms
has begun!! -=-=

FidoTel proudly sponsors a "NEW" Legend of the Red Dragon Tournament!

The tournament will last "14 days". It began at 0900 (EST) on Sunday,
18 November 2001.

The Winner of the tournament will receive a beautiful Red Dragon
statue!! Come, log in, and "Enjoy!!"

Click http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord for details and pictures of
the prize!

http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord
http://www.fidotel.com
telnet://telnet.fidotel.com

(Admission and participation to the tournament is free, participants
must agree to the rules and terms of service (RTS) for FidoTel BBS)

Shannon Talley
Sysop of FidoTel BBS 1:275/311

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[ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ]
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*Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
BBS Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
BBBS Home Page
[email protected]
http://www.bbbs.net/

ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
[email protected]
http://www.elebbs.com/

Hermes II Project (Mac)
[email protected]
http://www.hermesii.org/

Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
[email protected]
http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

MBSE BBS
Michiel Broek + development team
[email protected]
http://mbse.sourceforge.net
2:2802/2 Michiel Broek.

Mystic BBS
http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

Nexus Bulletin Board System
[email protected]
http://www.nexusbbs.net/

Proboard
Telegrafix Communications Inc.
[email protected]
540-678-4050
http://www.telegrafix.com

RemoteAccess Central
Bruce Morse
[email protected]
http://www.rapro.com/

Searchlight
Telegrafix Communications Inc.
[email protected]
540-678-4050
http://www.telegrafix.com

Spitfire BBS
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Buffalo Creek Software
[email protected]
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

Synchronet BBS
[email protected]
http://www.synchro.net

Telegard BBS
[email protected]
http://www.telegard.net/

Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
http://www.santronics.com

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Door Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bentstone Capabilities Group
[email protected]
http://www.srupc.com/mall

Jibben Software
[email protected]
http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

JNS Software Door Games
Rusty Johnson
[email protected]
304-733-0113
http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
http://www.lordlegacy.org/

PC Pursuits
[email protected]
(301)240-6653
http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

S and T Software
Mark Bappe
[email protected]
(770)788-6843
http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

Shinning Star BBS Doors
[email protected]
http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

Sunrise Door Software
Al Lawerence
[email protected]
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 17 19 Nov 2001

(404)256-9518
http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

The Brainex System
[email protected]
http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

Trade Wars Door Game
[email protected]
http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
1:299/110

Vagabond Software
Bryan Turner
[email protected]
http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
1:124/7013

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Mail Tossers
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
FMail Support
[email protected]
http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
2:280/1076

Squish Tosser
http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Mailer Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Argus
RITLABS
[email protected]
373-2-246889
http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
2:469/84

FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
Definite Solutions
[email protected]
http://www.defsol.se/

BeeMail Home Page
http://beemail.gexonline.net
Stephen Proffit
1:211/405

BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

Plantinum Express for Wildcat
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 18 19 Nov 2001

http://www.santronics.com

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Fidonet via Internet Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Argus
RITLABS
[email protected]
373-2-246889
http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
2:469/84

BinkD
[email protected]
http://2f.ru/binkd/

Fidogate
[email protected]
http://www.fidogate.org/

Fidonet to Internet Mailer
Bo Bendtsen
[email protected]
http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

GiGo Software
http://www.gigo.com/

Internet Rex
[email protected]
http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

TransX
Multiboard Communications Inc.
[email protected]
http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
1:2401/305

TransNet
[email protected]
http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

Watergate
[email protected]
http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Point Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
http://www.defsol.se/

JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 19 19 Nov 2001

http://www.jetsys.de/

APoint
http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

CrossPoint ("Original" version)
http://www.crosspoint.de
http://www.apoint-mail.de

CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
http://www.openxp.com (English)
http://www.openxp.de (German)

CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
http://www.xp2.de

WinPoint95
http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
http://www.happyarts.de/xp

Terminate Terminal
http://www.terminate.com

PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Other Software, Utillities and such
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

BGFAX Home Page
http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
http://www.gwinn.com

NetModem for Windows
http://www.allensoftware.com

Com/IP
<http://pcmicro.com/comip

Husky - Portable Fido Software
http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

cFos Fossil driver
http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

ADF Fossil
http://www.digsys.se/adf.html

FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 20 19 Nov 2001

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Dead Links
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Renegade BBS
http://www.egate.net/renegade/

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E-Mail [email protected]

The format of this list is undergoing changes and improvements

BBS Software Name
Company/Author
Contact E-mail
Contact Telephone
Internet address (if available)
Fido style address (if available)

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FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 21 19 Nov 2001

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[ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ]
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Last update: 6:39 AM 10/24/01

Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
Joe Jared, 1:103/301, [email protected]. All email addresses
here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
obtaining a feed. Please do not list the virtual email addresses
on any web page.

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FidoNet
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
Echolist: http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/
Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
Parody: http://www.fidonet.ro/
Foti http://www.fidonet-on-the-internet.org
History http://www.fidonet-on-the-internet.org

Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
Region 10: http://www.r10.org
Net 102 http://home.earthlink.net/~kayshapero/net102.htm
Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
Net 203: <vacant>
Region 11: http://www.vector11.com/region11/
Net 2410: http://www.vector11.com/net2410/
Region 13: http://www.ispaceonline.org/region13/
Net 109: http://www.thelitterbox.net/fido/net109/
Net 261: http://www.baltimorepress.com/~net261/
Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/
Net 267: http://www.angelfire.com/ny4/net267/
Net 275: http://www.ispaceonline.org/net275/

Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
Region 15: <vacant>
Region 16: <vacant>
Region 17: http://www.region17.net
Net 140: http://www.nwstar.com/~net140
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/

Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
Net 124: http://www.DallasInet.com/net124/
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 22 19 Nov 2001

http://texoma.net/~flv
Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/

Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)

Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
http://www.was-ist-fido.de/
Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
Region 25: <Vacant>
Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
REC34: http://www.fidospain.org
Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
Net 5028: HTTP://5028.nordnet.ru/
Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
?? Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
Net 5074: http://www.n5074.z2.fidonet.net
?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)

Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org

Zone 4:
Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
Region 90:
Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)

Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/

Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
Region 65: http://r65.yeah.net
http://www.cfido.com (Chinese)

Fidonet Via Internet Hubs

a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
[email protected] will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature.

v-email flag [email protected]
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 23 19 Nov 2001

| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 24 19 Nov 2001

3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | |
341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | |
343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | |
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | |
348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | |
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 25 19 Nov 2001

469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
----------------------------------------------
Fidonet oriented news servers

news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 26 19 Nov 2001

Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)

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FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 27 19 Nov 2001

=================================================================
[ SPECIAL INTEREST ]
=================================================================

N.Y. Grand Lodge Public Relations
[email protected]

Received this message as stated below, and thought it a good idea to
pass along to all Fido families especially those with school age
children.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:44 AM
Subject: N.Y. Grand Lodge Public Relations

Warren,

I received this from Brother Chuck Ogden and felt that it was worthy
of passing on to you.

Here is news of a very educational and worthwhile television
production which should be of interest to every Mason and every member
of his family.

The program is called "Mr. Dreyfuss Goes to Washington" and features
famed actor Richard Dreyfuss as the narrator of a fascinating
exploration of some of our most precious national monuments and
historic sites in our nation's capital.

Prominently described is the role played by Masons in the concept,
design, and construction of so many of these famed landmarks, not just
the laying of cornerstones. The program is scheduled to be broadcast
in prime time on The History Channel on Monday, November 26, from 9 to
11 p.m., (some areas 10 to midnight) and rebroadcast Tuesday, November
27, from 1 to 3 p.m.

Please spread the word for all Masons, members of their families,
friends and prospective members to view this program. It is a
wonderful patriotic film, especially meaningful in this time of war
against those who threaten our way of life.You will also be interested
to know that a 35-minute version of this video will broadcast to
100,000 schools across the nation in January. More details on this to
follow. The film was produced by Richard Dreyfuss, and R. W. Akram
Elias, a member of the Grand Line of the Grand Lodge of Washington,
D.C.

The Washington, D.C. Grand Lodge is one of the sponsors of the
project. We will furnish more details as we get them, but thought you
would want to be alerted to this program. It gets a rave review from
me.

Fraternally,
Ron Steiner
N.Y. Grand Lodge Public Relations

Passed on by Steve Vickers
FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 28 19 Nov 2001

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Nodelist Stats

INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.320
File has a Date Stamp of : 11/16/2001
File Size (uncompressed) : 1197.73 KBytes.

The Input Nodelist file has 10950 Nodes in it
and a total of 14096 non-comment entries.

The list has 6 Zones listed.
65 Region Coordinators listed.
497 Network Hosts listed.
746 Hubs listed.
363 DOWN Nodes listed.
885 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
584 HOLD Nodes listed.

Administrative overhead = 1314 ( 12.00 %)
PRIVATE NODES overhead = 885 ( 8.08 %)

Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
9600 = 9393 ( 85.78 %)
(HST's = 202 or 2.15 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(PEP's = 16 or 0.17 % " " " " )
(MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
(HAY's = 3 or 0.03 % " " " " )
(V32's = 5272 or 56.13 % " " " " )
(V32B's = 669 or 7.12 % " " " " )
(V42's = 5039 or 53.65 % " " " " )
(V42B's = 712 or 7.58 % " " " " )
2400 = 110 ( 1.00 %)
1200 = 7 ( 0.06 %)
300 = 481 ( 4.39 %)

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F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems
----------------------------------------------------------
XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4242
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
--------------------------------------
XB Binkleyterm 2.0 10
Dutchie 2.90b
--------------------------------------
XC Opus 1.1 12
--------------------------------------
XP Seadog 8
--------------------------------------
XR Opus 1.03 77
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FIDONEWS 18-47 Page 29 19 Nov 2001

XW Fido >12M 410
Tabby
--------------------------------------
XX D'Bridge 1.30 4655
Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
--------------------------------------

CrashMail capable = 3945 ( 36.03 %)
MailOnly Nodes = 5661 ( 51.70 %)
Listed-Only Nodes = 823 ( 7.52 %)

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How to Submit an Article

If you wish to submit an article for inclusion in the Fidonews, here
are the -=_guidelines_=-:

No more than 70 characters per line. This includes spaces.

No right or left margins.

Plain ASCII text _only_. Good rule is: If you can't type it on a plain
typewriter, don't use it.

Put a title to the article and your name.
Note: Put the title in two times. The first time and first line
should be with an * before it. The second time and second line
should without the * and centered. This will help in the format
since the title with the * is removed and used in the index and
the other one will remain and show what the article is about.

Articles that contain vulgar language might not be accepted. (the only
real rule in this whole thing) Remember, we really don't know who
might be reading the Fidonews.

Deadline for article submission is Saturday, 12:00 midnight (24:00
hours) according to _my_ clock. I'm in the Central Time Zone in the
U.S.A. That's GMT-6. Articles received after the deadline will appear
in the next Fidonews.

Help the Editor by following the above guides. Below are some subjects
and the file extension for the article as set in the configuration
file for the making of the Fidonews. The file name can be anything up
to 8 characters. Please help by putting the file extension of the
correct subject on the file name if known..

Ideas for Subject areas:

Subject File | Subject File
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From the *C's *.css | Rebuttals to articles *.reb
Fidonet Regional News *.reg | Fidonet Net News *.net
Retractions *.rtx | General Fidonet Articles *.art
Guest Editorial *.gue | Fidonet Current Events *.cur
Fidonet Interviews *.inv | Fidonet Software Reviews *.rev
Fidonet Web Page Reviews *.web | Fidonet Notices *.not
Getting Fidonet Technical *.ftc | Question Of The Week *.que
Humor in a Fido Vein *.hfv | Comix in ASCII *.cmx
Fidonet's Int. Kitchen *.rec | Poet's Corner *.poe
Clean Humor & Jokes *.jok | Other Stuff *.oth
Fidonet Classified Ads *.ads | Corrections *.cor

If you don't know or are not sure, send the article anyway. Put a .TXT
on it and I'll try to figure out where it should be in the Fidonews.
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If you follow these simple guidelines, there should be little problem
in getting your article published. If your submission is too far out
of specs for the Fidonews, it will be returned to you and/or a message
sent informing you of the problem. This DOES NOT mean that your
article is not accepted. It means that there is something in it that I
can not fix and I need your help on it.

Send Articles via E-mail or Netmail, file attach or message to:

Frank Vest
Fidonet; 1:124/6308
E-Mail; [email protected]

Please leave me a message telling me that you have sent an article.
That way I will know to look for it.

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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA
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Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2001 by Frank L. Vest, though authors
retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinions expressed
by the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication
and distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are
encouraged to send their articles in ASCII text to:
Frank Vest at one of his addresses above.

The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file
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These sources are normally available through your Network
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