The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 46 12 Nov 2001

The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 46 12 Nov 2001
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Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. [ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ] ..................................... 1
2. [ TOP STORIES ] .......................................... 2
The Fidonews at a glance ................................. 2
3. [ FIDONET REGIONAL NEWS ] ................................ 3
Region 12 election time again ............................ 3
4. [ EDITORIAL ] ............................................ 4
"From both sides now" .................................... 4
5. [ FIDONET SOFTWARE REVIEWS ] ............................. 7
FTN software used in Russia .............................. 7
6. [ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ] ...................... 9
18X46 .................................................... 9
7. [ ANSWERS OF THE WEEK ] .................................. 11
"What do you want in the Fidonews?" - Poll Results ....... 11
8. [ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ] .................................. 12
Women get last word? ..................................... 12
9. [ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ] ............................... 15
Rotating Ads ............................................. 15
L.O.R.D Tournament ....................................... 15
10. [ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ] ............ 17
Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* .......................... 17
11. [ JOE JARED'S FIDONET BY INTERNET ] ..................... 23
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 23
12. [ SPECIAL INTEREST ] .................................... 29
Bad Bunny Moments in Dakota .............................. 29
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 31
13. [ FIDONEWS INFORMATION ] ................................ 33
How to Submit an Article ................................. 33
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 34
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[ FOOD FOR THOUGHT ]
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Today you can go to a gas station and find the cash register open and
the toilets locked. They must think toilet paper is worth more than
money.
--Joey Bishop

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[ TOP STORIES ]
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The Fidonews at a glance

In the "Fidonet Software Reviews" section we have an interesting
article by Aleksej R. Serdyukov about what software is used in Zone 2,
Region 50.

You'll notice the announcement of the Region 12 RC election. This
should have been in last week's Fidonews but the Editor mistook it for
a regular Netmail and didn't include it.

Take a trip through Dakota, U.S.A. with "Doc Logger" as he returns to
give his view on some rabbits as well as U.S.A politics.

Warren Bonner gives us his view on why the U.S.A is united and
reminds us of where Fidonet began.

The Editorial this week deals with the poll taken last week with some
views from the editor on this and other things.

The results of the Poll taken last week is in the "Answers of the
week" section for those interested.

You might want to read the "How to Submit an Article" portion of the
Fidonews. Some section names have changed.

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[ FIDONET REGIONAL NEWS ]
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Region 12 election time again
By: Lesley-Dee Dylan
1:250/201

Region 12 has just entered into its nomination period in our annual
election for an official shield for the region's members when they
take on the rest of zone 1. We have gotten past the point of
appointing a returning officer (for the Americans, elections officer),
to run the election, and we are now into the time period where the
region's hotheads get out their shotguns and try to aim them at each
others' heads to try to coerce the acceptance of a nomination. The
best defence seems to be the threat of a cross-nomination. And
Darrell Salter just brought out the biggest shotgun of all "if one of
you doesn't accept nomination soon, we might end up with Joe Delahaye
as RC."

By now, Bob Seaborn will have acquired a new illicit feed of our
precious regional echo, REG12, and will be providing it to Janis
Kracht and Dallas Hinton. If you want to watch the entertainment, you
should areafix it from one of the three. Your feed will last until
Dallas can't hold back anymore and starts posting again.

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[ EDITORIAL ]
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"From both sides now"

The title is part of a song that I remember. Can't say who wrote it,
sang it or that those are important.

This week we have two conflicting views expressed. One by Doc Logger
who, being tranquilized, managed to grace us with an article. The
other by Warren Bonner, a regular columnist in the Fidonews.

One seems to think that the events regarding the WTC attack has
brought the U.S.A. together and that the president is doing fine. The
other seems to think that the government of the U.S. is just getting a
"wake up" and should have woke up long ago.

Either way, both are of limited interest to a select group and
neither are really Fidonet related in strict terms.

(pardon my take off, Doc)

Rolla da flick, everyone.

As I climb into my "time capsule" and press the "red button" (Oh no!
Not the "RED BUTTON!!), I'm whisked back through the Fidonews. Years
fall away. Editors and articles from the past appear to me in visions
of days gone by.

=-=-=-=
It's 1985. fido201.nws

"The new years first newsletter ... more and more
articles and ads every week. One complaint from a few
people: not too much of interest to general users, so far
all articles have been from Sysops. While that is fine,
maybe encourage a few users to send articles? FidoNews is
NOT only for sysops, it is for anyone."

=-=-=-=
It's 1986. fido304.nws

"Disclaimer or don't-blame-us:

The contents of the articles contained here are not our
responsibility, nor do we necessarily agree with them;
everything here is subject to debate. We publish EVERYTHING
received."

=-=-=-=
It's 1996. Fido1303.nws

"There were no articles submited this week."

-=-=-=-
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It's 2001. fnews1844.nws

"I respect the tradition of FidoNews editors to publish anything not
in violation of the (NA?) law. Maybe it is time however to review this
policy. Maybe it is time to define the topic of FidoNews and restrict
articles to those that are on topic."

-=-=-=-

It's Nov. 12, 2001

Whew! What a trip!! It's good to be home again. I think. :/

Yes, I'm picking editions and all that other "unfair" stuff. So
what?? Go write a rebuttal.

The gist (is that a word?) is that in the examples given, it's
thought that the Fidonews is not just for Sysops. Then we go back to
the "publish anything" syndrome. Then there are no articles. The
current thing is that articles should be about Fidonet only. No
special interest groups.

Really!! Try to please people and what do ya get?!?

Ah well. We have the answers to last week's "Question of the week"
poll. I guess that's not Fidonet related either, but at least it asked
for an opinion about the Fidonews.

Whatever shall we do?? The poll seems to indicate that all sections
are liked in general... Well, except for the "Comix in Ascii"
"Recipes" and "Poet's Corner", and even they made high marks on the
wall when they jumped.

I'm not being ungrateful for your replies, dear reader. In fact, I am
impressed with the turn out. My expectation was to get a couple of
responses and that would be it. We may try this again sometime. Thanks
to all of you who replied!

What did this little trip into the past and last week's poll prove?
Nothing that we in Fidonet didn't already know.

A poll will generally have about an equal percentage of votes no
matter how many questions are asked. IOW, everybody likes a different
part of some of it.

There will be a small percent of the total possible represented in the
poll. IOW, Some will try to make a difference while others sit back
and watch them beat their heads against the wall... then complain
about the whole thing while doing nothing.

No matter what you do, somebody won't like it. IOW, You can't please
all the people all the time... and some won't be pleased anytime.

I'm sure that there are other things that were proved by last week's
poll too. Oh well.
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As I read and read and read in the Fidonews echo, I watch for articles
coming in via Netmail or E-mail. I hope for an article about Fidonet.
I get articles about other things. :( I note that in past editions
this was also the case. In some issues, there were no articles. In
others there were articles about this or that Zone, Region or Net.
Some were about happenings other than Fidonet and a few, very few,
were of interest to all.

I've read thoughts of how the Fidonews is for users as well as Sysops,
should be only about Fidonet, can have any subject, should be of
general interest and other variations. What I see in the past is what
I see in the present. Lots of talk, complaints, ideas, demands and
little in the way of action. A new Fidonews Editor comes around with
ideas and dreams of making the Fidonews a great place. S/he is met
with all of the aforementioned complaints and little help. If the
"Snooze" is empty, it's boring. If it's full of articles by a couple
of people with one view, it's one sided and boring. If the editor
changes anything, it's wrong, one sided and boring.

To tell the truth, I find the Fidonews boring, but for a different
reason. I read the articles over and over while formatting and putting
the Fidonews together. :-)

Of all that I've mentioned in this writing, there is one thing that
worries me. The threats I've read and received. Threats such as; `I'll
see what I can do.' `I may just write an article!' `It's almost
finished.' `I thought about writing an article!' ` Maybe next week I
can get something to you.' If all these threats are carried out,
Whew!! We might have a Fidonews that had something in it. Wouldn't
that be awful?? :) <note the sarcasm>

So! What's the answer??

Same as it was to start with. The Fidonews is what _YOU_ make of it.

I hope that all of you have a great Fidonet day, a better Fidonet
tomorrow and are pleased once in your life.

Regards,

Frank Vest - Editor, Fidonews

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[ FIDONET SOFTWARE REVIEWS ]
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What FTN software is used in Z2 R50?
by Aleksej R. Serdyukov
2:5020/1973.20

Now I want to tell you what software Russians (and ex-USSR) use for
their FidoNet and BBS purposes.

At first I'll tell what software I use... It is:

Tosser: FastEcho v1.46.1 by Software Technik Burchhardt
Fileechos: AllFix v5.13 build 4 by Harms Software Eng.
Editor: GoldED+/386 1.1.5-20011017
(c) Odinn Sorensen->Alexander S. Aganichev
(my first was the same but 1.0.0)
Mailer: KittenMail v0.11.1f2 W32 by Andrew Lopatin
(at start of my Fido-life I used T-Mail 2606.DOS and
then T-Mail 2607.DOS)
BBS: MushroomBBS v1.0.0.3 by virtual booster //ScF,
based on Tornado BBS v1.71alpha23
by Konstantin Klyagin->Alexey Kljatow
FOSSIL driver: ADF v1.50
Operating system: MS Windows 98SE (4.10.2222), sometimes I use
DOS v7.10 from it but my modem doesn't work then.

I also use Bink-style outbound and JAM message base.

So, that's what I use.

And, about others ;)

FastEcho and ParToss (Parma Tosser) are the most used tossers in XSU
(ex-USSR).
Then JustTosser and HPT go. Some people also use GEcho and
CrashMail, Echomail, XMail, QEcho... The previous sentence is made
of editors I have never seen on BBSs etc.

Fileecho soft:

AllFix is standard. Some people say it is hard work to set it up, so
they are using KingFix, DM Tic, T-Fix, maybe, FileFix and Filin.
Some people use none :)

Mailers:

Oh, isn't it much interesting thing about software? ;) Maybe, but I
will try to tell it.
The most popular mailer is T-Mail by Andy Elkin. The last version is
2607, but it is rumoured that AE is going to release a 2608 or even
2700.

There is a new mailer called KittenMail or "Kitten" for short. It
has some good features and does not support AMA (and this is good!).
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But unlike the T-Mail, Kitten can not work with IP (afaik).

AMA is attach outbound fully supported by T-Mail. I didn't like
many attaches in my netmail and I set up the BSO. All who moves from
AMA to BSO says "Why others use the AMA? :-\".

Some people use Argus, Radius and other mailers but I have not seen
them.

Message editors:

The most popular FTN-editor not only in Russia is GoldED.
Its original author was Odinn Sorensen and then its sources was
edited by Jacobo Tario, Alexander S. Aganichev and many others.
I use it with dark color settings - "white"(7) color on black and I
like this as I hate Norton Commander's colors :)

But there are also used:
Taimyr (It is GUI. I don't like GUI. How can FTN editor be GUI?)
Fregate (TurboVision.. TV is good but it looks like a parody to the
DOS Navigator and it could be a file manager, not editor..
And the W32 version <I didn't hear about DOS ver> is slow)
There are also QDED, MADMED...

Alternate complement systems:

Many people use TerMail from Terminate ("The Final Terminal"), and
may be it is not bad, for points.

But some people use F.I.P.S. point system, and it is GUI and for W32
only!!! Recently someone asked how to make work the Tornado BBS
under FIPS! :-( )

BBS software:

Used BBS soft are Tornado BBS, Maximus CBCS and RemoteAccess BBS.
There is a new one - Mystic BBS.

But I don't remember other BBS software used here because it is not
so needed. :)

So, thanks for your attention, and good bye :)

==> Deleter //ScF, 2:5020/1973.20@FidoNet 10.11.2001 13:00 (MSW) <===

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[ OL'WDB'S COLUMN - WARREN BONNER ]
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18X46
[email protected]

Some folks may think this column is not Fidonet worthy, but let me
remind you that Fidonet was concieved and founded in America, and
America is Fidonet's original sponsor. Therefore it is in Fidonet's
interest to keep abreast of events and thoughts. Here's mine for this
week...

Why is the USA-merica so united? They speak all the languages of the
world and form an astonishing mixture of mini civilizations in every
city in the land. Some of them are nearly extinct. Some of them agree
with everything proposed about anything, others are refractory about
everything, and still others are apathetic. Still, the American
tragedy turned three hundred million people into a hand over the heart
salute to the brave who gave their lives trying to save the 5000+
innocent men, women and children of all ethnic groups murdered by the
terrorists at the NYC WTC.

This evening Our President addressed all Americans and put his arm
around each of us in his speech, explaining ways we can pull together
even tighter to defend our precious freedom and for that matter the
freedom of all of the free world. I for one applaud his encouragement
to "extend our hands personally" to help each other and our country,
and all of our allies. It is the collective effort of all that keeps
us free to prosper and worship in whatever faith we choose.

The evil doers that plot and plan our demise failed in their attempt
to cause a storm of discontent at our government as intended. No one
rushed to accuse the President, his staff, the army, the FBI, or the
CIA, that they were doing a lousy job. No one rushed to empty their
bank accounts. They all volunteered to donate blood and to give a
helping hand. After the first moments of panic, they raised the flag
on the smoking ruins, just as was done on Iwo Jima, and put Old Glory
up on their homes, on T-shirts, caps and automobiles. They placed
flags on buildings and trucks and trains and in every place and on
every thing! And on every occasion they started singing our
traditional song: "God Bless America!".

Our President has earned our love and respect by bringing all of the
freedom loving nations together as one to eradicate the TERRORIST.
His staff working with the media brought the charity concert broadcast
on many TV channels. The Stars came out and performed with all their
heart and souls. Ol' Clint Eastwood, Ol' Willie Nelson, Robert de
Niro, Sweet Julia Roberts, Cassius Clay-Mohammad Ali, Jack Nicholson,
Bruce Springsteen, Sylvester Rambo Stalone, James Wood, and many
others whom no film director or producers could ever bring together at
one time.

The spirit of American's freedom was turned up in everyone's
solidarity of purpose to defend Freedom throughout the world. What
you could hear was the heavy artillery of the American soul. Freedom
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sounds were being heard in a great crescendo at this charity concert.
I don't know how it happened that all this obsessive singing of
America didn't sound nationalist, or ostentatious! I guess it is
because we Americans "Do it with love in our hearts for all mankind".

What on earth can unite the Americans in such a way? Their land? Their
history? Their economic power? Their money? When you find the answer,
after humming the songs, there can be only one conclusion:

Only individual freedom and freedom for all can work such miracles!

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[ ANSWERS OF THE WEEK ]
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"What do you want in the Fidonews?" - Poll Results
By Frank Vest - Editor
1:124/6308.1
[email protected]

Below are the results of the poll taken last week. Thanks to all who
participated.

(13) [ Food for Thought ]
(14) [ Headline News ]
(12) [ Top Stories ]
(15) [ From the *Cs ]
(13) [ Regional News ]
(14) [ Net News ]
(13) [ Retractions ]
(14) [ General Articles ]
(14) [ Editorial ]
(13) [ Guest Editorial ]
(14) [ Fidonet Current Events ]
(14) [ Rebuttals to Previous Articles ]
(13) [ Interviews ]
(13) [ Fidonet Software Reviews ]
(13) [ Fidonet Web Page Reviews ]
(15) [ Fidonet Notices ]
(14) [ Getting Technical ]
(13) [ Question of the week ]
(13) [ Answers of the week ]
(13) [ Humor in a Fido Vein ]
(11) [ Comix in Ascii ]
(11) [ Recipes ]
(11) [ Poet's Corner ]
(13) [ Clean Humor & Jokes ]
(13) [ Classified Ads ]
(12) [ Calendar ]
(14) [ Corrections ]
(13) [ Special Interest ]

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[ CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ]
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Women get last word?
From: Warren Bonner <[email protected]>

Quotations from women about women .

The hardest years in life are those between ten and seventy.
-Helen Hayes (at 73)

I refuse to think of them as chin hairs. I think of them as stray
eyebrows.
-Janette Barber-

Whoever thought up the word "Mammogram"? Every time I hear it, I think
I'm supposed to put my breast in an envelope and send it to someone.
-Jan King-

A male gynecologist is like an auto mechanic who never owned a car.
-Carrie Snow-

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry with your
girlfriends.
-Laurie Kuslansky-

My second favorite household chore is ironing. My first being hitting
my head on the top bunk bed until I faint.
-Erma Bombeck-

Old age ain't no place for sissies.
-Bette Davis-

A man's got to do what a man's got to do. A woman must do what he
can't.
-Rhonda Hansome-

The phrase "working mother" is redundant.
-Jane Sellman-

Every time I close the door on reality it comes in through the
windows.
-Jennifer Unlimited-

Whatever women must do they must do twice as well as men to be thought
half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.
-Charlotte Whitton-

Thirty-five is when you finally get your head together and your body
starts falling apart.
-Caryn Leschen-

I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me
at once.
-Jennifer Unlimited-
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If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible
warning.
-Catherine Aird-

When I was young, I was put in a school for retarded kids for two
years before they realized I actually had a hearing loss. And they
called ME slow!
-Kathy Buckley-

I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not
dumb . . and I'm also not blonde.
-Dolly Parton-

You see a lot of smart guys with dumb women, but you hardly ever see a
smart woman with a dumb guy.
-Erica Jong-

If high heels were so wonderful, men would still be wearing them.
-Sue Grafton-

I'm not going to vacuum 'til Sears makes one you can ride on.
-Roseanne Barr-

I think---therefore I'm single.
-Lizz Winstead-

When women are depressed they either eat or go shopping. Men invade
another country.
-Elayne Boosler-

Behind every successful man is a surprised woman.
-Maryon Pearson

In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man--if you want
anything done, ask a woman.
-Margaret Thatcher-

I have yet to hear a man ask for advice on how to combine marriage and
a career.
-Gloria Steinem-

I never married, because there was no need. I have three pets at home
which answer the same purpose as a husband. I have a dog that growls
every morning, a parrot that swears all afternoon, and a cat that
comes home late every night.
-Marie Corelli-

If men can run the world, why can't they stop wearing neckties? How
intelligent is it to start the day by tying a noose around your neck?
-Linda Ellerbee-

I am a marvelous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man I keep his
house.
-Zsa Zsa Gabor-

Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.
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-Eleanor Roosevelt-

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[ FIDONET CLASSIFIED ADS ]
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Rotating ads

As a service of the Fidonews, I am prepared to offer rotating ads for
those that provide services to Fidonet such as Mail Hubs, Gateways,
Fidonet via Internet, Fidonet software, Backbone services and such.

How this works:

1. Create an ad following the guidelines for the Fidonews.
2. Keep it short and to the point.
3. Put contact and other needed information in the ad.
4. Send it to Frank Vest as a file attach.
A. E-Mail "[email protected]
B. Netmail "Frank Vest - 1:124/6308

I will put the ad in a pool and use a program each week to
automatically rotate the ads into the Fidonews.

Please! If you stop offering service or need to change your ad,
contact me! This is very important to keep the ads current.

I'm doing this on a trial basis. If it gets to be a problem, I will
have to discontinue the service. I can make no promise of how often
your ad will be in the Fidonews. This will depend on how many ads I
have to rotate through.

As always in Fidonet, I make no guaranties. :)

Regards,

Frank Vest - Fidonews Editor

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L.O.R.D Tournament
By SHANNON TALLEY
1:275/311

November 11, 2001

-=-=- Come one -=-=- Come All -=-= To the Thieves -=-=- To the
warriors -=-=- To the wizards who dabble in magic! -=-= A call to arms
has begun!! -=-=

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The tournament will last "14 days". It began at 0900 (EST) on Sunday,
18 November 2001.

The Winner of the tournament will receive a beautiful dragon statue!!
Some come on, log in, and "Enjoy!!"
FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 16 12 Nov 2001

Click http://www.fidotel.com/public/lord for details and pictures of
the prize!

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http://www.fidotel.com
telnet://telnet.fidotel.com

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[ TODD COCHRANE'S FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ]
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*Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
BBS Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
BBBS Home Page
[email protected]
http://www.bbbs.net/

ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
[email protected]
http://www.elebbs.com/

Hermes II Project (Mac)
[email protected]
http://www.hermesii.org/

Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
[email protected]
http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

MBSE BBS
Michiel Broek + development team
[email protected]
http://mbse.sourceforge.net
2:2802/2 Michiel Broek.

Mystic BBS
http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

Nexus Bulletin Board System
[email protected]
http://www.nexusbbs.net/

Proboard
Telegrafix Communications Inc.
[email protected]
540-678-4050
http://www.telegrafix.com

RemoteAccess Central
Bruce Morse
[email protected]
http://www.rapro.com/

Searchlight
Telegrafix Communications Inc.
[email protected]
540-678-4050
http://www.telegrafix.com

Spitfire BBS
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Buffalo Creek Software
[email protected]
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

Synchronet BBS
[email protected]
http://www.synchro.net

Telegard BBS
[email protected]
http://www.telegard.net/

Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
http://www.santronics.com

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Door Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bentstone Capabilities Group
[email protected]
http://www.srupc.com/mall

Jibben Software
[email protected]
http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

JNS Software Door Games
Rusty Johnson
[email protected]
304-733-0113
http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
http://www.lordlegacy.org/

PC Pursuits
[email protected]
(301)240-6653
http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

S and T Software
Mark Bappe
[email protected]
(770)788-6843
http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

Shinning Star BBS Doors
[email protected]
http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

Sunrise Door Software
Al Lawerence
[email protected]
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(404)256-9518
http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

The Brainex System
[email protected]
http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

Trade Wars Door Game
[email protected]
http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
1:299/110

Vagabond Software
Bryan Turner
[email protected]
http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
1:124/7013

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Mail Tossers
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
FMail Support
[email protected]
http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
2:280/1076

Squish Tosser
http://www.lanius.com/squish.htm

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Mailer Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Argus
RITLABS
[email protected]
373-2-246889
http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
2:469/84

FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
Definite Solutions
[email protected]
http://www.defsol.se/

BeeMail Home Page
http://beemail.gexonline.net
Stephen Proffit
1:211/405

BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

Plantinum Express for Wildcat
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 20 12 Nov 2001

http://www.santronics.com

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Fidonet via Internet Software
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Argus
RITLABS
[email protected]
373-2-246889
http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
2:469/84

BinkD
[email protected]
http://2f.ru/binkd/

Fidogate
[email protected]
http://www.fidogate.org/

Fidonet to Internet Mailer
Bo Bendtsen
[email protected]
http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

GiGo Software
http://www.gigo.com/

Internet Rex
[email protected]
http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

TransX
Multiboard Communications Inc.
[email protected]
http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
1:2401/305

TransNet
[email protected]
http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

Watergate
[email protected]
http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

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Point Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
http://www.defsol.se/

JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 21 12 Nov 2001

http://www.jetsys.de/

APoint
http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

CrossPoint ("Original" version)
http://www.crosspoint.de
http://www.apoint-mail.de

CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
http://www.openxp.com (English)
http://www.openxp.de (German)

CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
http://www.xp2.de

WinPoint95
http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
http://www.happyarts.de/xp

Terminate Terminal
http://www.terminate.com

PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

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Other Software, Utillities and such
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F-Prot Anti-Virus Home Page
http://www.complex.is/cgi-bin/home_pager

BGFAX Home Page
http://blkbox.com/~bgfax/

SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
http://www.gwinn.com

NetModem for Windows
http://www.allensoftware.com

Com/IP
<http://pcmicro.com/comip

Husky - Portable Fido Software
http://husky.physcip.uni-stuttgart.de/

cFos Fossil driver
http://www.cfos.com/index_e.htm

ADF Fossil
http://www.digsys.se/adf.html

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Renegade BBS
http://www.egate.net/renegade/

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| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
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3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek |FTP, BinkD | OC3 n/c
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BinkP | 8/2mb | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | |
341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | |
343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | |
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | |
348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | |
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 27 12 Nov 2001

469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
----------------------------------------------
Fidonet oriented news servers

news.osirusoft.com
news.tardis.net
FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 28 12 Nov 2001

Fidonet oriented chat rooms.

room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)

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Bad Bunny Moments in Dakota
By Doc Logger

Dear Editorbeing,

This article is submitted by Charles Herriot who got extraordinarily
lucky with the tranquilizer gun and chained Doc Logger to the keyboard
long enough to crank out this epistle.

Roll da flic, Frank

Dear Reverend Visage,

I had to get home from San Francisco and there was no way in hell I
was gonna fly. It's not the terrorists I'm worried about, it's the
fear that in mid-air, somewhere over Chadron, Nebraska, the airline
that I've selected will go bankrupt. How does that work? I mean, do
they just shut off the engine and tell everyone that the trip is over?
And the plastic smiling stewardess with Missouri drawl says what?
"Ya'll mind your step now. It's a 39,000 foot drop there darlin'." So
I picked up SERIOUS wheels, what with the turbo-charger, the
nitro-methanol injector, and the entire Dadawa CD collection. It was a
pretty uneventful trip until I landed in Dakota.

I learned a number of things last night as I drove through the
badlands of Dakota. (One of things I learned was how to spell "Dakota"
which is probably a good thing. I had a sense that another misspelled
"Dakota" would cause Julia to run screaming for a quote from a
dictionary.) One of the things I learned last night is that you can't
be too careful when you drive with a tubful of freshly cut carrots
nestled into crushed ice. With 6,500 gigawatt coffee in your veins,
you pretty much have to replace beta-carotene at enormous rates
because dilated pupils cause a certain amount of sensory overload on
the optic nerves. I discovered that crime is everywhere and that evil
bands of jackrabbits roamed the badlands, waiting patiently for
someone to drive by with a tubfull of carrots. The rabbits denied that
they were rabbits of course, and came disguised as Dakota Highway
Patrol police but I could sense from their twitching noses that were
really rabbits. As soon as they shone their flashlights into the car,
you could see their eyes widen in amazement at the mothering HUGE tub
of carrots sitting in the passenger seat. (It was all perfectly legal,
the tub of carrots was wearing a seatbelt.)

The cop-heart isn't genetically capable of stopping a car at 2am in
the morning which is loaded to the gunnels with carrots. There are
places out beyond the weird curve that their cop-heart minds can't
fathom. This is a mercy, because after casually mentioning that I'd
been clocked at 174 mph, they plum forgot all about giving me a ticket
as we stood in the ghostly moonlight and discussed the carrot
comprehension problem that they were having. "Are those real carrots?"
FIDONEWS 18-46 Page 30 12 Nov 2001

asked one of the patrolmen.

"Sure. Try one. I don't look like the kind of person who'd be driving
with synthetic carrots do I?" The officer munched on the tasty
goodness of a carrot and opined that it certainly was one damned fine
carrot - the real McCoy - Mother Nature's proudest tuber.

"I don't guess you can grow carrots around these parts," I allowed
while pointing to the arid moonscape punctuated by Janthina scrub and
pin-cushion cactus. Anyway, we stood there, out in the moonlight, and
discussed carrots pretty much for 20 solid minutes, and even the other
officer let slip his rabbit disguise and partook of a few. As we said
our goodnights and I gently ran up through all six gears to get back
up to light-speed, I shouted "Hey rabbits. Don't mess with me. I'm
armed with carrots and I know how to use them." I have a sense that
there are still two patrolmen out there in the Dakota sagebrush
arguing with each other about whether they had just stopped a guy for
speeding and ended up having a whole conversation about carrots. I've
been keeping score. So far, I've been pulled over 13 times and haven't
actually been given a ticket for speeding yet. I've got 4 WARNINGS, 3
cute little booklets about state traffic laws, and.. check this out -
a gift certificate for 6 free donuts to compensate me for the
inconvenience of having been stopped.

Visage, I haven't even gotten to the Chautauqua part of this message
and already I can sense that your mind is having a few bad bunny
moments. Take deep breaths. Think about going on a date with Madeline
Albright. There, is your mind not sharply in focus? I just knew it
would be. As the nightly news is filled with the usual lies from the
military about their "precision" bombing and the effectiveness of
their campaign in Afghanistan and I try to withhold my despair while
poor George Dubya cures the economic woes by adjuring us to "go
shopping." It is not that the world got any different on September
11th, it's just that the horror finally came home. The same military,
the same politicians, and the same sanctimonious country stood idly by
while a million Rwandans were slaughtered and they did nothing. Evil,
apparently, does not exist unless it visits the World Trade Center or
The Pentagon. As an observer from the frozen tundra to the north, I am
largely cynical about the flag-waving rhetoric that seems to surround
the latest US adventure. If it had been spawned by a call to decency
as opposed to revenge it might have been easier to swallow.

After a year of fruitlessly bombing the desert, the only legacy we
will keep is a new and ugly approach to liberty in the US, and
particularly in Canada where politicians are quick to intrude in the
lives of their subjects. Warrantless searches, detention without
trial, and a government whom most of us wouldn't trust further than we
could throw them - these are the charming intrusions that our leaders
have lined up in the name of protecting us from ourselves.

I'd write more, Visage, but your secretary seems to be having some
sort of crisis. She's waving a "Hubert Humphrey For President" placard
at me. This is all very strange considering that it has only been a
few minutes since I unleashed the rabid lemmings. As the good and
decent people that we are, I think we should send her to work in a
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coven of sociologists.

Regards
Doc Logger
Furlang Island,
South Pacific

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Nodelist Stats

INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.313
File has a Date Stamp of : 11/8/2001
File Size (uncompressed) : 1201.98 KBytes.

The Input Nodelist file has 10991 Nodes in it
and a total of 14142 non-comment entries.

The list has 6 Zones listed.
65 Region Coordinators listed.
498 Network Hosts listed.
751 Hubs listed.
354 DOWN Nodes listed.
892 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
585 HOLD Nodes listed.

Administrative overhead = 1320 ( 12.01 %)
PRIVATE NODES overhead = 892 ( 8.12 %)

Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
9600 = 9432 ( 85.82 %)
(HST's = 207 or 2.19 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(PEP's = 16 or 0.17 % " " " " )
(MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
(HAY's = 4 or 0.04 % " " " " )
(V32's = 5293 or 56.12 % " " " " )
(V32B's = 681 or 7.22 % " " " " )
(V42's = 5058 or 53.63 % " " " " )
(V42B's = 724 or 7.68 % " " " " )
2400 = 112 ( 1.02 %)
1200 = 7 ( 0.06 %)
300 = 480 ( 4.37 %)

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F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems
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XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4267
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
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XB Binkleyterm 2.0 10
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 12
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XP Seadog 8
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XR Opus 1.03 77
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XW Fido >12M 413
Tabby
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XX D'Bridge 1.30 4663
Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
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CrashMail capable = 3981 ( 36.22 %)
MailOnly Nodes = 5673 ( 51.61 %)
Listed-Only Nodes = 826 ( 7.52 %)

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