The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 41 08 Oct 2001

The F I D O N E W S Volume 18, Number 41 08 Oct 2001
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Copyright 2001 by Frank L. Vest, Editor for Fidonews Globally.

Table of Contents
1. FOOD FOR THOUGHT ......................................... 1
2. GENERAL ARTICLES ......................................... 2
An Introduction to the Pan American Mail System .......... 2
Pan American Backbone F.A.Q.'s ........................... 3
3. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 5
FIDONET of MANY NATIONS .................................. 5
4. HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN ..................................... 9
This Week's Virus Warning! ............................... 9
5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 11
Famous Cows .............................................. 11
6. CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES ...................................... 12
Joke 1 ................................................... 12
Joke 2 ................................................... 12
The First Pancake ........................................ 12
7. OTHER STUFF .............................................. 13
This week's Calendar ..................................... 13
8. FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING ................................. 14
Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's* .......................... 14
9. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 20
How to Submit an Article ................................. 20
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 21
Credits, Legal Infomation, Availability .................. 26
Nodelist Stats ........................................... 27
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT
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Keep your eyes wide open before marriage, half shut afterwards.
--Benjamin Franklin

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GENERAL ARTICLES
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An Introduction to the Pan American Mail System
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From The Pan American Backbone

Last week in the Fidonews, the editor wrote:

"Zone1 has two echomail distributors. The Z1B (Zone 1 Backbone) and
the NAB (North American Backbone)".

We thought it important to bring to the editor's attention that in
fact, there are *three* "backbone" distributors in Zone 1. There are
also other echomail distribution systems based in Zone 1, such as
TFPDist, and Planet Connect.

This is especially something that should interest the editor of
Fidonews, as he himself in part provided some of the impetus to
create this third backbone distribution system. A while back Frank,
you challenged the members of Fidonet to come up with a different
mail distribution system. Some of us heard you, and acted on your
challenge. The result is the Pan American Mail System.

Why another distro system? We were all independant hubs, not aligned
with the NAB nor the Z1B, and we all shared the common view that the
constant quarrels between the Z1B and the NAB were proving to be a
detriment to mail moving in general in Fidonet. We felt that some of
the hubs in those distribution systems were allowing politics and not
the needs of their downlinks to decide on how they moved the mail.

There were things that all of us did not like about the Z1B as well
as the NAB, and we felt that together we can find a better way to
serve our downlinks, by removing ourselves from the political debate
and doing things differently than the NAB and Z1B have traditionally
done things. An example of this is our "*.NA" type files. We actually
produce *two* of these; one bearing the tag names of all echos that
have shown recent posting activity (BACKBONE.PA), and a second that
bears the tag names of echos which have been inactive for quite some
time, or have only had robot postings for quite some time
(BACKBONE.PA0). We carry all echos in both lists, but feel that this
provides an easy way for our downlinks to see which echos they can
expect to still be active.

What follows is a FAQ file that is regularly posted in the
PAN_AM_BACKBONE echo, a publically accessible echo provided for
anyone participating in Fidonet to contact the Pan Am hubs for the
purpose of discussing any Pan Am Backbone related issues. We welcome
any suggestions, ideas for improvements and debates over the pros and
cons of mail-moving practices past and present in that echo, provided
such debates remain civil. We are open to new ideas, and do not wish
to be bound in any way to the practices traditionally followed by the
NAB and Z1B mail distribution systems.

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Pan American Backbone F.A.Q.'s
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From The Pan American Backbone

This document seeks to answer questions that Fidonet members may ask
about the Pan American Backbone mail distribution system.

What is the Pan American Backbone?
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The Pan American Backbone is a loose association of Fidonet mail hubs
who share a common philosophy towards mail moving. A Pan American mail
hub's main concern should be for the needs and wishes of their
downlinks. Pan American mail hubs strive to move the mail in the most
efficient manner possible, regardless of political or personal
differences.

Who are the Pan American Backbone Hubs?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PAB associated hubs are listed in the BACKSTAT.PA file. By agreeing to
allow their name and node numbers to be listed there, those hubs
indicate their membership in the Pan American Backbone.

Does the PAB route Netmail?
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PAB associated hubs agree to route netmail to the best of their
abilities for their downlinks, per the wishes of those downlinks. A
PAB hub may reserve the right to refuse to route netmail which the hub
feels is of an illegal or unethical form, or is sent from an
unidentified source.

Will the PAB honor moderator feed cuts?
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PAB associated hubs will honor requests for feed cuts from the echo
moderator of record, as listed in the Echolist at the time of the
request, provided such a request is properly submitted to the PAB.

How do the PAB hubs decide on who they link with?
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It is the opinion of PAB hubs that no one knows any hub's system
better than the operators of the hubs themselves. To that end, any
meshing, linking and routing arrangements are left solely to the
discretion and judgements of the individual hubs themselves. Fidonet
is a peer-to-peer network, and any two systems may link to each other
in any way they wish, provided they agree to the linking, and such
linking does not cause problems for others.

What echo areas does the Pan American Backbone carry?
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The PAB regularly releases two files bearing the tag names of the
echos that are carried. The BACKBONE.PA file lists all echos with
recent posting activity; a second file called BACKBONE.PA0 lists echos
that the PAB does carry, but that have had no activity for at least 30
days.

Fidonet echo areas carried by the PAB are based on the listings of
echo areas in the Echolist, and upon echos listed in any Zone 1
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BACKBONE.* file. The PAB uses these databases as guides to create it's
own list of echos carried. Provided any echos in these lists are
denoted in the Echolist as distributed by Fidonet, and are not listed
as "restricted" by the moderator, the PAB will add them to
distribution. Restricted or non-echolisted echos, or any echos listed
in any other lists may also be moved by the PAB upon request of the
moderator to the PAB.

How does the PAB decide what echos to drop from distribution?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Echo areas will be dropped when they are removed from the E-list by
the moderator, or the moderator makes a request of the PAB to drop
their echo(s) from PAB distribution, or if all downlinks of all PAB
hubs choose to de-link the echo(s).

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GUEST EDITORIAL
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FIDONET of MANY NATIONS
[email protected]

Hello fidonetters of the world,
Recent disclosures of a world wide network of individuals bent on the
destruction of democracy and enslavement of every nation on earth to
the eventual rule of it's own code of worship and way of life; prompt
me to remind you that Fidonet News is apart of most all of these
nations, and must accept it's responsibility to inform it's members.
This isn't about politics as practiced in any nation, it is about our
freedoms of speech, liberty, and life as we know it today. Fidonet
News is a form of free speech. Some countries already disallow BBSes
or networking of any kind by individuals.

Here's a message that came across my desk that I found to be very
interesting reading. I think the author did an excellent job
explaining what we're facing militarily. I do take exception to one
point that is about our soldiers conducting "search and destroy"
throughout the "20" countries, (actual number is much greater than
that), where terrorist cells live and work. The author fails to
address that this "new war" will be fought not by the military alone,
but by every citizen of all countries. Law enforcement throughout the
world will have to work "hand in glove" with all citizens. In fact,
while our military is deploying to get ready to fight, law enforcement
officials have already begun the fight. This war will be fought in
the media, banks, non-government organizations and at the diplomatic
level, but most importantly by the citizen-- you and me. And if
fought well on each level the need for major military battles will be
lessened, many lives saved, and success more readily achieved.

Ol'wdb

----Original Message-----
Subject: A message worth reading.....and repeating.....

For your information: An academic advisor at the Air Force Academy
wrote the following, which we believe everyone should read.

From: Dr. Tony Kern, Lt. Col, USAF (Ret)

Recently, I was asked to look at the recent events through the lens of
military history, and I have joined the cast of thousands who have
written an "open letter to Americans."

Dear friends and fellow Americans 14 September 2001

Like everyone else in this great country, I am reeling from last
week's attack on our sovereignty. But unlike some, I am not reeling
from surprise.

As a career soldier and a student and teacher of military history, I
have a different perspective and I think you should hear it. This war
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will be won or lost by the American citizens, not diplomats,
politicians or soldiers.

Let me briefly explain.

In spite of what the media, and even our own government is telling us,
this act was not committed by a group of mentally deranged fanatics.
To dismiss them as such would be among the gravest of mistakes. This
attack was committed by a ferocious, intelligent and dedicated
adversary. Don't take this the wrong way. I don't admire these men
and I deplore their tactics, but I respect their capabilities.

The many parallels that have been made with the Japanese attack on
Pearl Harbor are apropos. Not only because it was a brilliant sneak
attack against a complacent America, but also because we may well be
pulling our new adversaries out of caves 30 years after we think this
war is over, just like my father's generation had to do with the
formidable Japanese in the years following WW II.

These men hate the United States with all of their being, and we must
not underestimate the power of their moral commitment. Napoleon,
perhaps the world's greatest combination of soldier and statesman,
stated "the moral is to the physical, as three is to one." Patton
thought the Frenchman underestimated its importance and said moral
conviction was five times more important in battle than physical
strength. Our enemies are willing-better said anxious -- to give their
lives for their cause.

How committed are we America? And for how long?

In addition to demonstrating great moral conviction, the recent attack
demonstrated a mastery of some of the basic fundamentals of warfare
taught to most military officers worldwide, namely simplicity,
security and surprise. When I first heard rumors that some of these
men may have been trained at our own Air War College, it made perfect
sense to me. This was not a random act of violence, and we can expect
the same sort of military competence to be displayed in the battles to
come.

This war will escalate, with a good portion of it happening right
here in the good ol' U.S. of A. <"Take out the strongest player">.

These men will not go easily into the night. They do not fear us. We
must not fear them. In spite of our overwhelming conventional
strength as the world's only "superpower" (a truly silly term), we are
the underdog in this fight. As you listen to the carefully scripted
rhetoric designed to prepare us for the march for war, please realize
that America is not equipped or seriously trained for the battle
ahead. To be certain, our soldiers are much better than the enemy,
and we have some excellent "counter-terrorist" organizations, but they
are mostly trained for hostage rescues, airfield seizures, or the
occasional "body snatch," (which may come in handy). We will be
fighting a war of annihilation, because if their early efforts are any
indication, our enemy is ready and willing to die to the last man.
Eradicating the enemy will be costly and time consuming. They have
already deployed their forces in as many as 20 countries, and they are
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likely living the lives of everyday citizens. Simply put, our
soldiers will be tasked with a search and destroy mission on multiple
foreign landscapes, and the public must be patient and supportive
until the strategy and tactics can be worked out.

For the most part, our military is still in the process of redefining
itself and presided over by men and women who grew up with - and were
promoted because they excelled in - Cold War doctrine, strategy and
tactics.

This will not be linear warfare, there will be no clear "centers of
gravity" to strike with high technology weapons.

Our vast technological edge will certainly be helpful, but it will not
be decisive. Perhaps the perfect metaphor for the coming battle was
introduced by the terrorists themselves aboard the hijacked aircraft-
this will be a knife fight, and it will be won or lost by the
ingenuity and will of CITIZENS and soldiers, not by software or smart
bombs. We must also be patient with our military leaders. Unlike
Americans who are eager to put this messy time behind us, our
adversaries have time on their side, and they will use it. They plan
to fight a battle of attrition, hoping to drag the battle out until
the American public loses its will to fight.

This might be difficult to believe in this euphoric time of flag
waving and patriotism, but it is generally acknowledged that America
lacks the stomach for a long fight. We need only look as far back as
Vietnam, when North Vietnamese General Vo Nguyen Giap (also a
military history teacher) defeated the United States of America
without ever winning a major tactical battle. American soldiers who
marched to war cheered on by flag waving Americans in 1965 were
reviled and spat upon less than three years later when they returned.

Although we hope that Usama Bin Laden is no Giap, he is certain to
understand and employ the concept. We can expect not only large doses
of pain like the recent attacks, but also less audacious "sand in the
gears" tactics, ranging from livestock infestations to attacks at
water supplies and power distribution facilities.

These attacks are designed to hit us in our "comfort zone" forcing the
average American to "pay more and play less" and eventually eroding
our resolve. But it can only work if we let it. It is clear to me
that the will of the American citizenry - you and I - is the center
of gravity the enemy has targeted. It will be the fulcrum upon which
victory or defeat will turn. He believes us to be soft, impatient,
and self-centered. He may be right, but if so, we must change. The
Prussian general Carl von Clausewitz, (the most often quoted and least
read military theorist in history), says that there is a "remarkable
trinity of war" that is composed of the (1) will of the people, (2)
the political leadership of the government, and (3) the chance and
probability that plays out on the field of battle, in that order.

Every American citizen was in the crosshairs of last Tuesday's attack,
not just those that were unfortunate enough to be in the World Trade
Center or Pentagon. The will of the American people will decide this
war. If we are to win, it will be because we have what it takes to
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persevere through a few more hits, learn from our! mistakes,
improvise, and adapt.

If we can do that, we will eventually prevail. Everyone I've talked
to In the past few days has shared a common frustration, saying in one
form or another "I just wish I could do something!" You are already
doing it. Just keep faith in America, and continue to support your
President and military, and the outcome is certain.

If we fail to do so, the outcome is equally certain.

God Bless America

Dr. Tony Kern, Lt. Col, USAF (Ret)
Former Director of Military History, USAF Academy

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APPROVED FOR REDISTRIBUTION - 19 Sep 01
<<< MRGRG - Alabama >>>
Thank you for your attention to today's most serious threat to our
freedoms as one of many countries under attack.

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HUMOR IN A FIDO VEIN
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This Week's Virus Warning!
[email protected]

This is no joke! It's real!!

This has been verified by the "powers that wanna be". A virus is
going around Fidonet.

The origin of this virus is known to be from all Zones and even
"Othernets". That's right! It is true!!

This virus infects your Echomail and is very clever. All that is
required to activate this virus is to read an Echomail message from
someone outside of your Zone, Region or Net.

This virus originated when Zones, Regions and Nets wanted control of
Fidonet for themselves. The virus is so constructed that it is not
visible and can't be read by Nodes or Users from the Zone, Region or
Net that it originates from. In this way, the virus can't infect it's
own.

The most common effect of this virus is to start a "flame war"
between Fidonet members. This "flame war" is then escalated by
variations of the virus contained in reply messages to others. The
reply messages may be read by the Fidonet member(s) that sent the
original virus and members of their own Zone, Region or Net. This is a
flaw in the virus since it can then infect the members of the
originator's Zone, Region or Net and cause "flame wars" within any
Zone, Region or Net thereafter. There is a variation of this virus
that reconstructs replies to cause those in the originator's Zone,
Region or Net to sympathize with the originator and therefore reply
with more virus infected message to other Zones, Regions or Nets and
propagate the "flame war" to even greater extremes.

In rare cases, generally when a Sysop or User actually prints a hard
copy of the virus infected message, it can be spread throughout your
family. This is especially true if your family is into reading Fidonet
messages and participating in Fidonet Echomail.

BEWARE!

The variations of this virus are too many to list. Your best bet is
to isolate yourself from all other Zones, Regions and Nets except for
your own. This is recommended by the "powers that wanna be". NEVER
read or reply to any message from someone outside your Zone or Region
and use care when reading messages from outside your Net.

This is serious folks!
If you are believing this, I'm sure there are several bridges and some
swamp land in many parts of the world for sale _REAL_ cheap. :-))

FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 10 8 Oct 2001

<chuckle>

Frank 1:124/6308(.1)

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COMIX IN ASCII
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Famous Cows
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(__) (__) \ / (_||_)
SooS (oo) \/ (oo)
/------S\/S /-------\/ /S /-------\/
/ | || / | || / S / | ||
* ||----|| * ||----||___/ S * ||----||
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
This cow belonged Ben Franklin owned Abe Lincoln's
to George Washington this cow cow

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CLEAN HUMOR & JOKES
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Joke 1
From: Warren Bonner <[email protected]>

I was on a flight to Hong Kong once. The flight would be seven hours
long, so I decided to get some shuteye. I was soon awakened by the
stewardess, who asked me if I would like some dinner. I said, "What
are my choices?" And she said, "Yes or no."

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Joke 2
From: Warren Bonner <[email protected]>

Worried that his son was spending too much money on dates, a Father
asked the boy how much his last date had cost.

The son calculated a minute then replied, "Oh, about $15 or so I
think."

"Well," said the Father, "I'm proud of you for finally coming up with
an inexpensive evening."

"To be honest Dad," the son went on, "we'd have done more, but that
was all the money she had."

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The First Pancake

A mother was preparing pancakes for her sons, Kevin, 5, and Ryan, 3.
The boys began to argue over who would get the first pancake. Their
mother saw the opportunity for a moral lesson. "If Jesus were sitting
here, He would say 'Let my brother have the first pancake, I can
wait.' Kevin turned to his younger brother and said, "Okay Ryan, you
be Jesus!"

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OTHER STUFF
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This week's Calendar

Day Event
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8
Battle of Angamos in Peru
Columbus Day in United States
Mother's Day in Malawi
Thanksgiving in Canada
9
Army Day in Azerbaijan
Independence Day in Uganda
Independence of Guayaquil in Ecuador
Korean Alphabet Day in Korea, South
Leif Erikson Day in United States
10
Druger Day in South Africa
Fiji Day in Fiji
Health and Sports Day in Japan
Moi Day in Kenya
Oklahoma Historical Day in United States (Oklahoma)
11
Anniversary of the Beginning of the Wars of Independence in Cuba
12
Battle of Sarandi in Uruguay
Columbus Day in Argentina
Columbus Day in Argentina
Columbus Day (Dia de la Raza) in Honduras
Columbus Day (traditionally) in United States
Columbus Day/Dia de la Raza in Costa Rica
Day of Liberation from the French in Laos
Dia de la Raza in Colombia
Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Mexico
Dia de la Raza/Columbus Day in Venezuela
Dia de la Raza/Discovery of America in Uruguay
Discovery Day in Bahamas
Independence Day/National Day? in Equatorial Guinea
National Day in Spain
Our Lady Aparecida Day in Brazil
13
St. Edward's Day in United Kingdom
14
Children's White Sunday in Western Samoa
National Day in Yemen Democratic Republic
National Day/Revolution Day 1963 in Yemen Arab Republic
Petkouden in Bulgaria
Svetitskhovloba in Georgia

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FIDONET SOFTWARE LISTING
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*Fidonet/BBS Software Listing's*

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
BBS Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
BBBS Home Page
[email protected]
http://www.bbbs.net/

ELEBBS- The Elevator Software Productions Web Page
[email protected]
http://www.elebbs.com/

Hermes II Project (Mac)
[email protected]
http://www.hermesii.org/

Maximus BBS Support Page (Non Official)
[email protected]
http://www.vector11.com/maximus/

MBSE BBS
Michiel Broek + development team
[email protected]
http://mbse.sourceforge.net
2:2802/2 Michiel Broek.

Mystic BBS
http://www.mysticbbs.com/mystic/

Nexus Bulletin Board System
[email protected]
http://www.nexusbbs.net/

Proboard
Telegrafix Communications Inc.
[email protected]
540-678-4050
http://www.telegrafix.com

RemoteAccess Central
Bruce Morse
[email protected]
http://www.rapro.com/

Searchlight
Telegrafix Communications Inc.
[email protected]
540-678-4050
http://www.telegrafix.com

Spitfire BBS
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Buffalo Creek Software
[email protected]
http://www.angelfire.com/ia/buffalo/index.html

Synchronet BBS
[email protected]
http://www.synchro.net

Telegard BBS
[email protected]
http://www.telegard.net/

Wildcat Interactive Net Server (BBS)
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
http://www.santronics.com

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Door Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bentstone Capabilities Group
[email protected]
http://www.srupc.com/mall

Jibben Software
[email protected]
http://www.jibbensoftware.com/

JNS Software Door Games
Rusty Johnson
[email protected]
304-733-0113
http://www.geocities.com/jnssoftware/

Legend Of The Red Dragon Reborn (L.O.R.D.)
http://www.lordlegacy.org/

PC Pursuits
[email protected]
(301)240-6653
http://www.pcpursuits.com/products.htm

S and T Software
Mark Bappe
[email protected]
(770)788-6843
http://bozax.iainc.net/public/

Shinning Star BBS Doors
[email protected]
http://www.shiningstar.net/bbsdoors/

Sunrise Door Software
Al Lawerence
[email protected]
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(404)256-9518
http://www.sunrisedoors.com/

The Brainex System
[email protected]
http://www.brainex.com/brainex_system/

Trade Wars Door Game
[email protected]
http://www.eisonline.com/tradewars/
1:299/110

Vagabond Software
Bryan Turner
[email protected]
http://vagabond.virtualave.net/
1:124/7013

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Mail Tossers
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
FMail Support
[email protected]
http://fmail.nl.eu.org/
2:280/1076

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Mailer Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
FrontDoor, FrontDoor APX, Mailer/Point Software
Definite Solutions
[email protected]
http://www.defsol.se/

BinkleyTerm XE Frontend Mailer Software
http://btxe.sourceforge.net/

Plantinum Express for Wildcat
Santronics Inc.
[email protected]
(305)248-3204
http://www.santronics.com

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Fidonet via Internet Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Argus
RITLABS
[email protected]
373-2-246889
http://www.ritlabs.com/argus/
2:469/84

BinkD
[email protected]
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http://2f.ru/binkd/

Fidogate
[email protected]
http://www.fidogate.org/

Fidonet to Internet Mailer
Bo Bendtsen
[email protected]
http://www.terminate.com/fido2int.htm

GiGo Software
http://www.gigo.com/

Internet Rex
[email protected]
http://plaza.v-wave.com/InternetRex/

Tmail (Russian /w English DL)
http://www.tmail.spb.ru/index-19.htm

TransX
Multiboard Communications Inc.
[email protected]
http://www.multiboard.com/software/transx.html
1:2401/305

TransNet
[email protected]
http://www.ressl.com.ar/transnet/

Watergate
[email protected]
http://www2.sbbs.se/hp/ramon/

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Point Software
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Definite Solutions FrontDoor APX
http://www.defsol.se/

JetSys - Home of JetMail, JetStat and other Atari Fidonet utilities
http://www.jetsys.de/

APoint
http://www.apoint.websale.net/index.htm (Author)
http://www.apoint-mail.de (Co-Author)

CrossPoint ("Original" version)
http://www.crosspoint.de
http://www.apoint-mail.de

CrossPoint (OpenXP Projekt)
http://www.openxp.com (English)
http://www.openxp.de (German)

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CrossPoint (XP2 Team)
http://www.xp2.de

WinPoint95
http://www.schenksmir.de/wp/english

The OpenXP CrossPoint Projekt
http://www.happyarts.de/xp

Terminate Terminal
http://www.terminate.com

PPoint-FTS compatible E-Mail System
http://www.alcuf.ca/ppoint.htm

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SIO, Vmodem for OS/2
http://www.gwinn.com

NetModem for Windows
http://www.allensoftware.com

Com/IP
<http://pcmicro.com/comip

Husky - Portable Fido Software
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cFos Fossil driver
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v-email flag [email protected]
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
| | |latency|
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
18/500 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
18/600 | Jerry Gause | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | CABLE | n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP,NFS | 384k,!| n/c
103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
105/8 @ Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
106/1 @ Steve Loupe | BinkP, FTP | 128k | ???
106/2000 | Bob Juge | BinkP VMoT FTP TX| ??? | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
1:134/11 @ Michael Grant | FTP, BinkP, VMoT UUE, IFCICO,TransX
aDSL, 60 | n/c
138/146 | Marc Blakely | BinkP,FTP | ??? | n/c
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
142/906 | Chris Griffin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
150/220 | Dave Nemeth | UUE | ??? | n/c
153/7715 | Dallas Hinton | BinkD, FTP | CABLE | ???
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
167/166 | Jesse Dooling | POP? UUE TX FTP| ??? | n/c
218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE,TX | 33.6k | n/c
220/10 | [email protected] |BinkP,FTP,UUE|1.5M+ | n/c
229/1 | Phil Simpson | BinkP UUE FTP | ??? | n/c
229/2000 | Robert Couture |BinkP FTP UUE TX| ??? |
229/622 | Dave Hamilton | BinkP | ??? | n/c
249/116 | Carl Austin Bennett | FTP, UUE |ADSL,60 | n/c
250/98 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
250/99 | Brent McLaren | FTP BinkP | ??? | n/c
250/102 | Darin McBride | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
267/169 | Philip Lozier | FTP TX | ??? | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 24 8 Oct 2001

261/1380 | Joe Davis | UUE TX | ??? | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
297/11 | Michael McCabe | TX | ??? | n/c
323/120 | Craig Healy | VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
360/5 | Bennie Hutto | FTP VMoT | aDSL | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | CABLE | n/c
379/1 @ Dale Ross | FTP, BinkP,UUE | 256K+,! n/c
379/1200 | Chris Cranford | BinkP FTP TX | ??? | n/c
393/9005 | Steve Quarrella |BinkP TX UUE VMoT| ??? | n/c
395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkP VMoT FTP | ??? | n/c
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
396/48 | Ben Ritchey | UUE:BFDS? | 33.6k | n/c
2215/300 | Dennis Haddox | UUE,TX | CABLE | n/c
2320/38 | Janis Kracht | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
2410/400 | Gary Gilmore | FTP BinkP | 384K,60| n/c
2410/213 | Kevin Bentz | FTP, BinkP, UUE| Cable | n/c
2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
2624/306 | David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3613/1275 | @ [email protected] | UUE,FTP | 28.8 | n/c
3407/4 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
3830/5 | Jeff Schrunk |BinkP FTP TX UUE| ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
22/222 | Kim Heino | BinkP | ??? | n/c
28/1 | Lody Caenen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
37/37 | Gabor Z. Papp | BinkP | ??? | n/c
47/999 | Andrej Kirejev | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
201/329 | Mats Wallin | VMoT TX | ??? | n/c
201/505 | Goran Eriksson | BinkP | ??? | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
211/37 | Torbjorn Mohn | BN IFCICO | ??? | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
240/6298 | Steve Tell | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
252/110 | David Rance | UUE | ??? | n/c
255/90 | Simon Avery | UUE | ??? | n/c
263/950 | Sean Rima | TX UUE | ??? | n/c
280/1027 | Lukas de Groen | BinkP FTP | ??? | n/c
280/1601 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
280/4312 | Jos Huijnen | BinkP ifcico UUE TX| ??? | n/c
280/5003 | Kees van Eeten | BinkP ifcico | ??? | n/c
292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 64k | n/c
292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | n/c
292/854 | Ward Dossche | BinkP UUE TX | ??? | n/c
292/907 | Bart Verhaeghe | BinkP,VMoT,UUE | 64K | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
333/0 | M Gianformaggio | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/534 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 25 8 Oct 2001

335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
341/14 | Rafael Suarez | BinkP VMoT | ??? | n/c
341/51 | Jose.Maria Tejada | VMoT | |
341/66 | Angel Ripoll | VMoT | |
343/168 | Jose Casanova | VMoT | |
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
347/1 | Javi Polo | UUE | |
348/105 | Alejandro Estraviz| BinkP UUE | |
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/555 | Ofir Michaeli | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/557 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
400/558 | Vlad Hrusca | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/256 | Andrew Rutkas | BinkP | ??? | n/c
461/640 | Alex Semenyaka |BinkP ifcico UUE| ??? | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
469/128 | Oleg Vasenyoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
550/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | ----- | n/c
2410/201 | Karsten Ebeling | BinkP UUE | ??? | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2432/200 | Sven Dueker | BinkP TX UUE | ??? | n/c
2446/301 @ Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
2487/3000 | Steffen Gross | BinkP | ??? | n/c
3830/10 | Matt Bedynek | FTP, BinkP | 100Mb | n/c
5002/5002 | Victor Belyakov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5014/4 | Alex Bagmanov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/52 | Peter Didenko | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/54 | Serge Wizgounoff | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5020/69 | B Chernivetsky | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/238 | Sergey Gubanov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5030/1251 | K Stepanekov | UUE | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
5049/12 | Amir Shabashvili | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5054/3 | Andrew Popov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5080/80 | Eugene Zorin | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5083/21 | Alexander Uskov | BinkP,ifcico | ??? | n/c
5090/2 | Andrew Titov | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 3
633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
712/311 | Bob James | TX | ??? | n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
--------------------------------------------------------------
Zone 4
801/161 @ Renato Zambon | UUE | 33.6 |n/c
902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 26 8 Oct 2001

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Zone 6
65/3000 | Lawrence Fan | UUE | 33600 | free
653/1009 | Maorong Chen | UUE | ??? | free
654/0 | Bin Li | UUE,BinkP | 33600 | free
654/1501 | Lawrence Fan | UUE,BinkP | 28800 | free

--
* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
* TX = TransX
* NFS = Linux Networking
* ifcico = ifcico-compatible virtual mailer
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Nodelist Stats

INPUT NODELIST FILE : NODELIST.278
File has a Date Stamp of : 10/4/2001
File Size (uncompressed) : 1206.59 KBytes.

The Input Nodelist file has 11123 Nodes in it
and a total of 14204 non-comment entries.

The list has 6 Zones listed.
67 Region Coordinators listed.
499 Network Hosts listed.
764 Hubs listed.
372 DOWN Nodes listed.
852 PRIVATE Nodes listed.
521 HOLD Nodes listed.

Administrative overhead = 1336 ( 12.01 %)
PRIVATE NODES overhead = 852 ( 7.66 %)

Baud Rate Summary (or, BPS, for the die-hard technocrats):
9600 = 9544 ( 85.80 %)
(HST's = 206 or 2.16 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(CSP's = 2 or 0.02 % of the 9600 baud modems.)
(PEP's = 16 or 0.17 % " " " " )
(MAX's = 0 or 0.00 % " " " " )
(HAY's = 3 or 0.03 % " " " " )
(V32's = 5403 or 56.61 % " " " " )
FIDONEWS 18-41 Page 28 8 Oct 2001

(V32B's = 681 or 7.14 % " " " " )
(V42's = 5134 or 53.79 % " " " " )
(V42B's = 734 or 7.69 % " " " " )
2400 = 114 ( 1.02 %)
1200 = 8 ( 0.07 %)
300 = 495 ( 4.45 %)

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F_Req Flag Applicable Software Number of Systems
----------------------------------------------------------
XA Frontdoor <1.99b 4348
Frontdoor 2.02+
Dutchie 2.90c
Binkleyterm >2.1
D'Bridge <1.3
TIMS
--------------------------------------
XB Binkleyterm 2.0 11
Dutchie 2.90b
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XC Opus 1.1 12
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XP Seadog 7
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XR Opus 1.03 79
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XW Fido >12M 417
Tabby
--------------------------------------
XX D'Bridge 1.30 4716
Frontdoor 1.99b,2.01
--------------------------------------

CrashMail capable = 4030 ( 36.23 %)
MailOnly Nodes = 5735 ( 51.56 %)
Listed-Only Nodes = 846 ( 7.61 %)

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